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evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:31 am
by Uri Blass
stockfish does not have this type of evaluation.

White is a full queen up but the evaluation at high depth almost does not go up.

records in evaluation
depth 1 13.30
depth 3 13.34
depth 11 13.42
depth 37 13.45

waiting from depth 11 to depth 37 to get an increase in the evaluation is a lot of time and if I did not knew better I could think that the position is a type of fortress by looking at stockfish's evaluation.

Are there strong chess engines without this type of evaluation when the evaluation usually go up when the side has material advantage.
Note that it is possible simply to add some small bonus for every pawn push by both sides(as long as there are some non blocked pawns) or every trade when one side has a big material advantage to force beheviour of increasing evaluation when one side has a big material advantage(big material advantage can be defined as at least a knight).

[d]rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Stockfish_19062209_x64_modern:
1/1 00:00 64 32k +13.30 1.Nc3
2/2 00:00 6k 1,840k +13.26 1.Nc3 b6
3/3 00:00 7k 1,801k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3
4/4 00:00 7k 1,868k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6
5/5 00:00 8k 1,970k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d3
6/6 00:00 8k 2,060k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d3 d6
7/7 00:00 9k 1,709k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d3 d6 4.Bf4
8/8 00:00 10k 2,036k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d3 d6 4.Bf4 b6
9/16 00:00 43k 2,874k +13.33 1.Nf3 d6 2.e3 Nd7 3.Nc3 Ngf6 4.Bc4 c6 5.Bd3
10/15 00:00 114k 2,912k +13.34 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.Nb5 Kd8 3.Nf3 d6 4.Nbd4 Nc6 5.Nxc6+ bxc6 6.Nd4 Bd7
11/17 00:00 190k 2,976k +13.42 1.Nc3 Nc6 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nh6 4.d5 Ne5 5.Nxe5 dxe5 6.f4 exf4
12/18 00:00 302k 3,108k +13.34 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.e4 Bg4 4.h3 Bh5 5.Be2 Nc6 6.0-0 0-0-0 7.d3 Bg6 8.Be3 Kb8
13/15 00:00 357k 3,157k +13.37 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.e4 Bg4 4.h3 Bh5 5.Be2 Nc6 6.0-0 0-0-0 7.d3 Bg6 8.Bf4
14/20 00:00 602k 3,365k +13.33 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 d6 3.e4 e5 4.Bc4 Be7 5.0-0 0-0 6.d3 Nc6 7.Nb5 Bd8 8.Bd2 Bd7
15/24 00:00 1,146k 3,639k +13.37 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4 d6 3.Nf3 Bd7 4.e5 Ng4 5.exd6 cxd6 6.Nb5 Kd8 7.Bc4 e6 8.h3 Nf6 9.0-0 Nc6 10.Nc3
16/22 00:00 1,352k 3,665k +13.32 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4 d6 3.Nf3 a6 4.d4 e6 5.Be2 Be7 6.a3 Nc6 7.Bf4 h6 8.Bc4 Bd7 9.0-0 0-0 10.Qd3
17/23 00:00 2,384k 3,748k +13.32 1.Nc3 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e4 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bc4 0-0 6.0-0 a6 7.a4 Nc6 8.a5 Nb4 9.Bg5 Bd7 10.Be3
18/25 00:00 3,372k 3,827k +13.38 1.Nc3 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e4 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bc4 0-0 6.0-0 a6 7.a4 Nc6 8.Qe2 Na5 9.Bd3 Nc6 10.a5 g6 11.Bf4 Kg7
19/28 00:01 4,982k 3,911k +13.35 1.Nc3 d6 2.e4 Nf6 3.d4 Nc6 4.d5 Nb8 5.Be3 Ng4 6.Bd2 a6 7.Be2 Nf6 8.Nf3 Nbd7 9.Ng5 h6 10.Nf3
20/25 00:01 6,320k 3,909k +13.38 1.Nc3 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e4 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bf4 Nc6 6.e5 Nd5 7.Nxd5 exd5 8.exd6 Bxd6 9.Bxd6 cxd6 10.Qd3 Bg4 11.0-0-0 0-0 12.Be2 Bxf3 13.Qxf3
21/26 00:02 9,834k 3,959k +13.32 1.Nc3 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e4 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bf4 0-0 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.a3 Nd7 8.Nb5 Bd8 9.Kf1 e5 10.Be3 Nf6 11.dxe5 dxe5 12.c3 Bd7
22/30 00:06 25,042k 3,932k +13.30 1.e3 Nf6 2.d4 d6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Bc4 e6 6.0-0 0-0-0 7.h3 Bh5 8.g4 Bg6 9.Nh4 Ne4 10.Nxe4 Bxe4 11.f3 Bd5 12.Bxd5 exd5
23/32 00:08 33,652k 3,894k +13.37 1.Nc3 c6 2.e4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Qe2 Ne7 5.b3 f6 6.g3 Kf7 7.Bh3 Na6 8.d4 Nc7 9.0-0 a6 10.Bf4 Nb5 11.Nxb5 axb5 12.c3 Kg6
24/30 00:10 39,921k 3,875k +13.31 1.Nc3 c6 2.e4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Qe2 Ne7 5.d4 Nd7 6.Bf4 f6 7.0-0-0 Kf7 8.Re1 Nb6 9.Nd2 Bd7 10.b3 dxe4 11.Ncxe4 Nf5 12.c3 Be7
25/33 00:14 56,266k 3,778k +13.34 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d6 3.e4 e6 4.Nf3 a6 5.Bd3 Nbd7 6.0-0 e5 7.Bc4 Be7 8.Bd2 0-0 9.Qe2 Rb8 10.a4 exd4 11.Nxd4 Ne5 12.Bb3 Bd7 13.f3 Rbe8 14.Kf2 Nc6
26/35 00:26 98,994k 3,721k +13.37 1.c4 f5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 e6 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Qb3 d6 6.e3 a6 7.Bd3 Nc6 8.d5 exd5 9.Nxd5 Nxd5 10.cxd5 Ne5 11.Nxe5 dxe5 12.f3 Bd6 13.0-0 Ra7 14.Qc4 Bd7 15.Bd2
27/37- 00:40 147,981k 3,650k +13.27 1.c4 b6
27/37 00:45 164,085k 3,642k +13.31 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c6 3.Nc3 d6 4.d4 Nbd7 5.e3 e5 6.Bd3 Be7 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qe2 Re8 9.g3 exd4 10.exd4 d5 11.cxd5 Bd6 12.Be3 Nxd5 13.Nxd5 cxd5 14.Bb5 g6 15.Kg2 Kg7
28/31 00:50 185,370k 3,641k +13.28 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c6 3.Nc3 d6 4.d4 Nbd7 5.e3 e5 6.Bd3 Be7 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qe2 exd4 9.exd4 Re8 10.Bf4 h6 11.Rad1 Nf8 12.d5 N8d7 13.b4 cxd5 14.Nxd5 Nxd5 15.cxd5
29/37+ 00:55 202,869k 3,661k +13.37 1.c4
29/37 00:59 220,713k 3,680k +13.37 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.d4 e6 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.Nb5 Kd8 6.Nf3 Bd7 7.Nc3 Kc8 8.0-0 h6 9.h3 a6 10.a3 b6 11.e5 Nd5 12.Nxd5 exd5 13.Qe2 Kb7 14.Bf4 dxe5 15.dxe5
30/39 01:07 251,689k 3,710k +13.37 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.d4 e6 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.Nb5 Kd8 6.Nf3 Bd7 7.Nc3 Kc8 8.0-0 h6 9.h3 Kb8 10.a3 b6 11.Be3 Kb7 12.Nd2 Re8 13.f3 g5 14.Nc4 d5 15.Ne5 Nxe5 16.dxe5 dxe4 17.Nxe4 Nxe4 18.Bxe4+ Bc6
31/43 01:38 364,660k 3,705k +13.34 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.d4 e6 4.Bd3 c6 5.Nf3 Be7 6.Bf4 Nh5 7.Be3 Nf6 8.0-0 a5 9.h3 0-0 10.Qd2 a4 11.b3 a3 12.Rfe1 Nbd7 13.g4 h6 14.Kg2 b5 15.Ne2 Re8 16.c4 Bb7 17.cxb5 cxb5
32/46 02:04 465,996k 3,748k +13.40 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 c6 3.d4 e6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.Bf4 Nf6 6.Bd3 0-0 7.0-0 d5 8.Nd2 Rd8 9.Bc7 Rd7 10.Be5 Na6 11.a3 dxe4 12.Bc4 Nc7 13.Ncxe4 Ncd5 14.Nc5 Bxc5 15.dxc5 Nc7 16.c3 a6 17.Bxf6 gxf6
33/46 04:01 897,401k 3,719k +13.37 1.e4 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bd3 0-0 6.0-0 a6 7.Bf4 Nc6 8.a4 Re8 9.Bc4 h6 10.h3 Na5 11.Be2 Nc6 12.Qd2 g5 13.Be3 d5 14.exd5 exd5 15.h4 Ne4 16.Nxe4 dxe4 17.Ne5 Nxe5 18.dxe5 gxh4 19.Bxh6
34/42 04:16 952,745k 3,709k +13.37 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 Ne7 4.Nb5 Kd8 5.Bc4 f6 6.Nc3 Bd7 7.Nge2 Nbc6 8.0-0 Kc8 9.a3 b6 10.Qd3 a5 11.Be3 Kb7 12.f4 g6 13.Rae1 Bg7 14.g3 Rae8 15.d5 exd5 16.exd5 Nd8 17.Nd4 Nf5 18.Nxf5 Bxf5
35/47 08:03 1,809,030k 3,742k +13.36 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 Ne7 4.Nb5 Kd8 5.Bd3 Bd7 6.Ne2 Nbc6 7.a3 Kc8 8.Nbc3 g6 9.0-0 Rg8 10.f3 Bg7 11.Be3 Re8 12.Qd2 h5 13.g3 a6 14.b3 d5 15.Rad1 a5 16.Kg2 b6 17.Rfe1 Kb7 18.h4 f6
36/43 08:20 1,870,926k 3,741k +13.38 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 a6 4.a4 Nc6 5.Nf3 Bd7 6.Bc4 0-0-0 7.0-0 f6 8.a5 Nge7 9.Be3 Re8 10.h4 Nd8 11.Bb3 e5 12.Qe2 exd4 13.Nxd4 Nec6 14.Nxc6 Nxc6 15.f3 Ne5 16.Nd5 f5 17.Bd2 Be7 18.Nxe7+ Rxe7 19.c4 fxe4
37/49 11:24 2,538,589k 3,711k +13.45 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 Nd7 4.Nf3 c6 5.Bf4 Be7 6.a4 a5 7.Bd3 Ngf6 8.Qe2 Nh5 9.Bd2 Nhf6 10.h3 e5 11.Bc4 0-0 12.0-0-0 b6 13.g4 h6 14.d5 Bb7 15.dxc6 Bxc6 16.Bb5 Bb7 17.Bxd7 Nxd7 18.Qb5 Nc5 19.Qxb6 Bxe4 20.Nxe4 Nxe4 21.Bxa5 f6
38/51 18:30 4,217,345k 3,797k +13.40 1.e4 d6 2.d4 e6 3.c4 Be7 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.Nc3 0-0 6.h3 Rd8 7.Bd3 Nbd7 8.Bf4 c6 9.0-0 Ne8 10.Qd2 g6 11.b3 f6 12.b4 Kg7 13.Be3 c5 14.bxc5 dxc5 15.d5 exd5 16.cxd5 b6 17.a4 Nd6 18.a5 c4 19.Be2 Ba6 20.axb6 axb6 21.g3
39/50 20:57 4,802,697k 3,821k +13.45 1.e4 d6 2.d4 e6 3.c4 Be7 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.Nc3 0-0 6.h3 Rd8 7.Bd3 Nbd7 8.Bf4 c6 9.0-0 b6 10.g4 h6 11.Qe2 Kf8 12.b3 Bb7 13.a3 Ne8 14.Qd2 Kg8 15.Rfe1 g5 16.Be3 a5 17.Kg2 Kg7 18.Rad1 Ndf6 19.Re2 Nc7 20.e5
40/46 21:34 4,951,110k 3,824k +13.44 1.e4 d6 2.d4 e6 3.c4 Be7 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.Nc3 0-0 6.h3 Rd8 7.Bd3 c6 8.Bf4 Nbd7 9.0-0 g6 10.Qd2 Ne8 11.Rfd1 b6 12.b4 e5 13.Bg3 exd4 14.Nxd4 Bb7 15.b5 c5 16.Nf3 Nef6 17.Nd5 Nxd5 18.exd5 Bf6 19.Rab1 Be7 20.a3 Kg7 21.a4
41/53 34:17 8,038,375k 3,906k +13.43 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nd7 3.f3 e6 4.Be3 Ngf6 5.Nd2 Be7 6.Ne2 h5 7.c3 b6 8.Nf4 a6 9.Be2 Bb7 10.b3 a5 11.Rc1 g6 12.0-0 Bf8 13.Nd3 Bh6 14.Bf2 0-0 15.g3 Kg7 16.Kg2 Rad8 17.c4 Rde8 18.Re1 Re7 19.h4 c6 20.Rc3 Rc8 21.Qc2 d5 22.cxd5 exd5
42/54 39:46 9,365,974k 3,925k +13.42 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nd7 3.f3 e6 4.Be3 Ngf6 5.Nd2 Be7 6.Ne2 h5 7.c3 b6 8.Nf4 a6 9.Be2 Bb7 10.b3 a5 11.0-0 g6 12.Rc1 Bf8 13.Nd3 Bh6 14.Bxh6 Rxh6 15.c4 Kf8 16.e5 Ne8 17.exd6 cxd6 18.c5 bxc5 19.dxc5 Rc8 20.Nc4 dxc5 21.Qd2 Kg7 22.Qxa5
43/57 48:44 11,553,599k 3,950k +13.43 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nd7 3.f3 c6 4.Be3 e6 5.Bd3 d5 6.Ne2 a5 7.c3 Bd6 8.0-0 Ne7 9.Nd2 0-0 10.e5 Bc7 11.g4 Bb6 12.f4 g6 13.b3 Kg7 14.Rf3 f5 15.g5 c5 16.h3 Nc6 17.a3 Ne7 18.Kg2 Nc6 19.Qc2 Rb8 20.Bb5 h6 21.h4 Rh8 22.Rd1 cxd4 23.cxd4
44/57 1:06:09 15,738,868k 3,965k +13.44 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nd7 3.f3 e6 4.Be3 Ngf6 5.Nd2 Be7 6.Ne2 h5 7.c3 b6 8.Nf4 a6 9.Be2 Bb7 10.a4 a5 11.Nd3 g6 12.0-0 0-0 13.h3 c5 14.g4 hxg4 15.hxg4 d5 16.e5 Ne8 17.Rc1 Nc7 18.Nf4 Kg7 19.Kg2 cxd4 20.cxd4 Rac8 21.Qe1 Na6 22.Rxc8 Bxc8 23.Bb5 Nb4

Re: evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:30 am
by jp
Uri Blass wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:31 am stockfish does not have this type of evaluation.
What do you mean by this sentence?

Re: evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 10:25 am
by Uri Blass
jp wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:30 am
Uri Blass wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:31 am stockfish does not have this type of evaluation.
What do you mean by this sentence?
I mean that stockfish often does not have increasing number in the evaluation when it searches deeper.

I would like to see non increasing score mainly in fortress positions that are draws
and if I only look at the evaluation of stockfish I may suspect that even a line like 1.e4 Nf6 2.Qh5 is a draw because black does not make progress based on the numbers.
13.16/27 when the score at small depth is similiar.
later the score goes up but not by much and I have only 13.31/36

It seems that the evaluation of stockfish does not give bonus for black only for the fact that the side trade pieces or pawns or for the fact that the sides go forward with pawns for some reason.

Re: evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 1:04 pm
by zullil
Perhaps you should experiment with an (small) evaluation term for material advantage that is measured relative to the total material on the board, rather than being absolute.

Having queen odds at the start of the game would score lower than having a KQK endgame. This would encourage a side that is ahead to trade material.

Re: evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:00 pm
by Robert Pope
Increasing evaluations is due to the search discovering new tactical combinations that win more and more material. Aside from the missing queen, this is the opening position. The search is spending so much of its tree just developing pieces that tactical combinations just don't show up immediately.

Instead, I would take an early mid-game position with lots of pieces remaining and remove the queen from there. I bet you would see an increasing evaluation in the search then.

Re: evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:42 pm
by Ovyron
Uri Blass wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:31 amwaiting from depth 11 to depth 37 to get an increase in the evaluation is a lot of time and if I did not knew better I could think that the position is a type of fortress by looking at stockfish's evaluation.
Heh, wouldn't it be funny if the draw width of chess was so wide that if we had 31men tbs the position you posted turned out to be draw by best play? I think this hasn't been explored, like, that is the minimum material handicap that white needs to ensure a won game?

Re: evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:50 pm
by JVMerlino
Ovyron wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:42 pm Heh, wouldn't it be funny if the draw width of chess was so wide that if we had 31men tbs the position you posted turned out to be draw by best play? I think this hasn't been explored, like, that is the minimum material handicap that white needs to ensure a won game?
I would be shocked if, with best play, that a material advantage of any two pawns wasn't enough to guarantee a win for White. One pawn might even be sufficient, but probably not and it would depend on the pawn.

Re: evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 10:05 pm
by Guenther
JVMerlino wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:50 pm
Ovyron wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:42 pm Heh, wouldn't it be funny if the draw width of chess was so wide that if we had 31men tbs the position you posted turned out to be draw by best play? I think this hasn't been explored, like, that is the minimum material handicap that white needs to ensure a won game?
I would be shocked if, with best play, that a material advantage of any two pawns wasn't enough to guarantee a win for White. One pawn might even be sufficient, but probably not and it would depend on the pawn.
Finally a sane voice - the whole forum seems invaded by 'stupids' since months...
Already guessed a brain disease virus (even more dangerous than the alt-right virus).

Re: evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:16 pm
by Ovyron
JVMerlino wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 9:50 pmI would be shocked if, with best play, that a material advantage of any two pawns wasn't enough to guarantee a win for White. One pawn might even be sufficient, but probably not and it would depend on the pawn.
It's possible 3 pawns (or a minor piece) is the minimum. I've seen middle game positions where the best a side can achieve is two pawns advantage, and it leads to a drawn 7men tablebase endgame, so with two pawns advantage the winning side should use it to expland it (win the third pawn, or force an exchange to be a minor piece up), because there's incredible defensive resources in some positions.

If two is enough they'd probably need to be the a and b pawns, or the g and h pawns, with the idea that the winning side starts with an unopposed passed pawn that is enough to win.

Re: evaluation that usually go up when you are winning

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:01 am
by chrisw
Uri Blass wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:31 am stockfish does not have this type of evaluation.

White is a full queen up but the evaluation at high depth almost does not go up.

records in evaluation
depth 1 13.30
depth 3 13.34
depth 11 13.42
depth 37 13.45

waiting from depth 11 to depth 37 to get an increase in the evaluation is a lot of time and if I did not knew better I could think that the position is a type of fortress by looking at stockfish's evaluation.

Are there strong chess engines without this type of evaluation when the evaluation usually go up when the side has material advantage.
Note that it is possible simply to add some small bonus for every pawn push by both sides(as long as there are some non blocked pawns) or every trade when one side has a big material advantage to force beheviour of increasing evaluation when one side has a big material advantage(big material advantage can be defined as at least a knight).

[d]rnb1kbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1

Stockfish_19062209_x64_modern:
1/1 00:00 64 32k +13.30 1.Nc3
2/2 00:00 6k 1,840k +13.26 1.Nc3 b6
3/3 00:00 7k 1,801k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3
4/4 00:00 7k 1,868k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6
5/5 00:00 8k 1,970k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d3
6/6 00:00 8k 2,060k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d3 d6
7/7 00:00 9k 1,709k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d3 d6 4.Bf4
8/8 00:00 10k 2,036k +13.34 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.d3 d6 4.Bf4 b6
9/16 00:00 43k 2,874k +13.33 1.Nf3 d6 2.e3 Nd7 3.Nc3 Ngf6 4.Bc4 c6 5.Bd3
10/15 00:00 114k 2,912k +13.34 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.Nb5 Kd8 3.Nf3 d6 4.Nbd4 Nc6 5.Nxc6+ bxc6 6.Nd4 Bd7
11/17 00:00 190k 2,976k +13.42 1.Nc3 Nc6 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nh6 4.d5 Ne5 5.Nxe5 dxe5 6.f4 exf4
12/18 00:00 302k 3,108k +13.34 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.e4 Bg4 4.h3 Bh5 5.Be2 Nc6 6.0-0 0-0-0 7.d3 Bg6 8.Be3 Kb8
13/15 00:00 357k 3,157k +13.37 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.e4 Bg4 4.h3 Bh5 5.Be2 Nc6 6.0-0 0-0-0 7.d3 Bg6 8.Bf4
14/20 00:00 602k 3,365k +13.33 1.Nf3 Nf6 2.Nc3 d6 3.e4 e5 4.Bc4 Be7 5.0-0 0-0 6.d3 Nc6 7.Nb5 Bd8 8.Bd2 Bd7
15/24 00:00 1,146k 3,639k +13.37 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4 d6 3.Nf3 Bd7 4.e5 Ng4 5.exd6 cxd6 6.Nb5 Kd8 7.Bc4 e6 8.h3 Nf6 9.0-0 Nc6 10.Nc3
16/22 00:00 1,352k 3,665k +13.32 1.Nc3 Nf6 2.e4 d6 3.Nf3 a6 4.d4 e6 5.Be2 Be7 6.a3 Nc6 7.Bf4 h6 8.Bc4 Bd7 9.0-0 0-0 10.Qd3
17/23 00:00 2,384k 3,748k +13.32 1.Nc3 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e4 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bc4 0-0 6.0-0 a6 7.a4 Nc6 8.a5 Nb4 9.Bg5 Bd7 10.Be3
18/25 00:00 3,372k 3,827k +13.38 1.Nc3 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e4 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bc4 0-0 6.0-0 a6 7.a4 Nc6 8.Qe2 Na5 9.Bd3 Nc6 10.a5 g6 11.Bf4 Kg7
19/28 00:01 4,982k 3,911k +13.35 1.Nc3 d6 2.e4 Nf6 3.d4 Nc6 4.d5 Nb8 5.Be3 Ng4 6.Bd2 a6 7.Be2 Nf6 8.Nf3 Nbd7 9.Ng5 h6 10.Nf3
20/25 00:01 6,320k 3,909k +13.38 1.Nc3 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e4 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bf4 Nc6 6.e5 Nd5 7.Nxd5 exd5 8.exd6 Bxd6 9.Bxd6 cxd6 10.Qd3 Bg4 11.0-0-0 0-0 12.Be2 Bxf3 13.Qxf3
21/26 00:02 9,834k 3,959k +13.32 1.Nc3 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e4 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bf4 0-0 6.Bd3 Nc6 7.a3 Nd7 8.Nb5 Bd8 9.Kf1 e5 10.Be3 Nf6 11.dxe5 dxe5 12.c3 Bd7
22/30 00:06 25,042k 3,932k +13.30 1.e3 Nf6 2.d4 d6 3.Nc3 Nc6 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Bc4 e6 6.0-0 0-0-0 7.h3 Bh5 8.g4 Bg6 9.Nh4 Ne4 10.Nxe4 Bxe4 11.f3 Bd5 12.Bxd5 exd5
23/32 00:08 33,652k 3,894k +13.37 1.Nc3 c6 2.e4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Qe2 Ne7 5.b3 f6 6.g3 Kf7 7.Bh3 Na6 8.d4 Nc7 9.0-0 a6 10.Bf4 Nb5 11.Nxb5 axb5 12.c3 Kg6
24/30 00:10 39,921k 3,875k +13.31 1.Nc3 c6 2.e4 e6 3.Nf3 d5 4.Qe2 Ne7 5.d4 Nd7 6.Bf4 f6 7.0-0-0 Kf7 8.Re1 Nb6 9.Nd2 Bd7 10.b3 dxe4 11.Ncxe4 Nf5 12.c3 Be7
25/33 00:14 56,266k 3,778k +13.34 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d6 3.e4 e6 4.Nf3 a6 5.Bd3 Nbd7 6.0-0 e5 7.Bc4 Be7 8.Bd2 0-0 9.Qe2 Rb8 10.a4 exd4 11.Nxd4 Ne5 12.Bb3 Bd7 13.f3 Rbe8 14.Kf2 Nc6
26/35 00:26 98,994k 3,721k +13.37 1.c4 f5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.d4 e6 4.Nc3 Be7 5.Qb3 d6 6.e3 a6 7.Bd3 Nc6 8.d5 exd5 9.Nxd5 Nxd5 10.cxd5 Ne5 11.Nxe5 dxe5 12.f3 Bd6 13.0-0 Ra7 14.Qc4 Bd7 15.Bd2
27/37- 00:40 147,981k 3,650k +13.27 1.c4 b6
27/37 00:45 164,085k 3,642k +13.31 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c6 3.Nc3 d6 4.d4 Nbd7 5.e3 e5 6.Bd3 Be7 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qe2 Re8 9.g3 exd4 10.exd4 d5 11.cxd5 Bd6 12.Be3 Nxd5 13.Nxd5 cxd5 14.Bb5 g6 15.Kg2 Kg7
28/31 00:50 185,370k 3,641k +13.28 1.c4 Nf6 2.Nf3 c6 3.Nc3 d6 4.d4 Nbd7 5.e3 e5 6.Bd3 Be7 7.0-0 0-0 8.Qe2 exd4 9.exd4 Re8 10.Bf4 h6 11.Rad1 Nf8 12.d5 N8d7 13.b4 cxd5 14.Nxd5 Nxd5 15.cxd5
29/37+ 00:55 202,869k 3,661k +13.37 1.c4
29/37 00:59 220,713k 3,680k +13.37 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.d4 e6 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.Nb5 Kd8 6.Nf3 Bd7 7.Nc3 Kc8 8.0-0 h6 9.h3 a6 10.a3 b6 11.e5 Nd5 12.Nxd5 exd5 13.Qe2 Kb7 14.Bf4 dxe5 15.dxe5
30/39 01:07 251,689k 3,710k +13.37 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.d4 e6 4.Bd3 Nc6 5.Nb5 Kd8 6.Nf3 Bd7 7.Nc3 Kc8 8.0-0 h6 9.h3 Kb8 10.a3 b6 11.Be3 Kb7 12.Nd2 Re8 13.f3 g5 14.Nc4 d5 15.Ne5 Nxe5 16.dxe5 dxe4 17.Nxe4 Nxe4 18.Bxe4+ Bc6
31/43 01:38 364,660k 3,705k +13.34 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.d4 e6 4.Bd3 c6 5.Nf3 Be7 6.Bf4 Nh5 7.Be3 Nf6 8.0-0 a5 9.h3 0-0 10.Qd2 a4 11.b3 a3 12.Rfe1 Nbd7 13.g4 h6 14.Kg2 b5 15.Ne2 Re8 16.c4 Bb7 17.cxb5 cxb5
32/46 02:04 465,996k 3,748k +13.40 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 c6 3.d4 e6 4.Nf3 Be7 5.Bf4 Nf6 6.Bd3 0-0 7.0-0 d5 8.Nd2 Rd8 9.Bc7 Rd7 10.Be5 Na6 11.a3 dxe4 12.Bc4 Nc7 13.Ncxe4 Ncd5 14.Nc5 Bxc5 15.dxc5 Nc7 16.c3 a6 17.Bxf6 gxf6
33/46 04:01 897,401k 3,719k +13.37 1.e4 d6 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nc3 e6 4.d4 Be7 5.Bd3 0-0 6.0-0 a6 7.Bf4 Nc6 8.a4 Re8 9.Bc4 h6 10.h3 Na5 11.Be2 Nc6 12.Qd2 g5 13.Be3 d5 14.exd5 exd5 15.h4 Ne4 16.Nxe4 dxe4 17.Ne5 Nxe5 18.dxe5 gxh4 19.Bxh6
34/42 04:16 952,745k 3,709k +13.37 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 Ne7 4.Nb5 Kd8 5.Bc4 f6 6.Nc3 Bd7 7.Nge2 Nbc6 8.0-0 Kc8 9.a3 b6 10.Qd3 a5 11.Be3 Kb7 12.f4 g6 13.Rae1 Bg7 14.g3 Rae8 15.d5 exd5 16.exd5 Nd8 17.Nd4 Nf5 18.Nxf5 Bxf5
35/47 08:03 1,809,030k 3,742k +13.36 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 Ne7 4.Nb5 Kd8 5.Bd3 Bd7 6.Ne2 Nbc6 7.a3 Kc8 8.Nbc3 g6 9.0-0 Rg8 10.f3 Bg7 11.Be3 Re8 12.Qd2 h5 13.g3 a6 14.b3 d5 15.Rad1 a5 16.Kg2 b6 17.Rfe1 Kb7 18.h4 f6
36/43 08:20 1,870,926k 3,741k +13.38 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 a6 4.a4 Nc6 5.Nf3 Bd7 6.Bc4 0-0-0 7.0-0 f6 8.a5 Nge7 9.Be3 Re8 10.h4 Nd8 11.Bb3 e5 12.Qe2 exd4 13.Nxd4 Nec6 14.Nxc6 Nxc6 15.f3 Ne5 16.Nd5 f5 17.Bd2 Be7 18.Nxe7+ Rxe7 19.c4 fxe4
37/49 11:24 2,538,589k 3,711k +13.45 1.e4 d6 2.Nc3 e6 3.d4 Nd7 4.Nf3 c6 5.Bf4 Be7 6.a4 a5 7.Bd3 Ngf6 8.Qe2 Nh5 9.Bd2 Nhf6 10.h3 e5 11.Bc4 0-0 12.0-0-0 b6 13.g4 h6 14.d5 Bb7 15.dxc6 Bxc6 16.Bb5 Bb7 17.Bxd7 Nxd7 18.Qb5 Nc5 19.Qxb6 Bxe4 20.Nxe4 Nxe4 21.Bxa5 f6
38/51 18:30 4,217,345k 3,797k +13.40 1.e4 d6 2.d4 e6 3.c4 Be7 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.Nc3 0-0 6.h3 Rd8 7.Bd3 Nbd7 8.Bf4 c6 9.0-0 Ne8 10.Qd2 g6 11.b3 f6 12.b4 Kg7 13.Be3 c5 14.bxc5 dxc5 15.d5 exd5 16.cxd5 b6 17.a4 Nd6 18.a5 c4 19.Be2 Ba6 20.axb6 axb6 21.g3
39/50 20:57 4,802,697k 3,821k +13.45 1.e4 d6 2.d4 e6 3.c4 Be7 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.Nc3 0-0 6.h3 Rd8 7.Bd3 Nbd7 8.Bf4 c6 9.0-0 b6 10.g4 h6 11.Qe2 Kf8 12.b3 Bb7 13.a3 Ne8 14.Qd2 Kg8 15.Rfe1 g5 16.Be3 a5 17.Kg2 Kg7 18.Rad1 Ndf6 19.Re2 Nc7 20.e5
40/46 21:34 4,951,110k 3,824k +13.44 1.e4 d6 2.d4 e6 3.c4 Be7 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.Nc3 0-0 6.h3 Rd8 7.Bd3 c6 8.Bf4 Nbd7 9.0-0 g6 10.Qd2 Ne8 11.Rfd1 b6 12.b4 e5 13.Bg3 exd4 14.Nxd4 Bb7 15.b5 c5 16.Nf3 Nef6 17.Nd5 Nxd5 18.exd5 Bf6 19.Rab1 Be7 20.a3 Kg7 21.a4
41/53 34:17 8,038,375k 3,906k +13.43 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nd7 3.f3 e6 4.Be3 Ngf6 5.Nd2 Be7 6.Ne2 h5 7.c3 b6 8.Nf4 a6 9.Be2 Bb7 10.b3 a5 11.Rc1 g6 12.0-0 Bf8 13.Nd3 Bh6 14.Bf2 0-0 15.g3 Kg7 16.Kg2 Rad8 17.c4 Rde8 18.Re1 Re7 19.h4 c6 20.Rc3 Rc8 21.Qc2 d5 22.cxd5 exd5
42/54 39:46 9,365,974k 3,925k +13.42 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nd7 3.f3 e6 4.Be3 Ngf6 5.Nd2 Be7 6.Ne2 h5 7.c3 b6 8.Nf4 a6 9.Be2 Bb7 10.b3 a5 11.0-0 g6 12.Rc1 Bf8 13.Nd3 Bh6 14.Bxh6 Rxh6 15.c4 Kf8 16.e5 Ne8 17.exd6 cxd6 18.c5 bxc5 19.dxc5 Rc8 20.Nc4 dxc5 21.Qd2 Kg7 22.Qxa5
43/57 48:44 11,553,599k 3,950k +13.43 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nd7 3.f3 c6 4.Be3 e6 5.Bd3 d5 6.Ne2 a5 7.c3 Bd6 8.0-0 Ne7 9.Nd2 0-0 10.e5 Bc7 11.g4 Bb6 12.f4 g6 13.b3 Kg7 14.Rf3 f5 15.g5 c5 16.h3 Nc6 17.a3 Ne7 18.Kg2 Nc6 19.Qc2 Rb8 20.Bb5 h6 21.h4 Rh8 22.Rd1 cxd4 23.cxd4
44/57 1:06:09 15,738,868k 3,965k +13.44 1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nd7 3.f3 e6 4.Be3 Ngf6 5.Nd2 Be7 6.Ne2 h5 7.c3 b6 8.Nf4 a6 9.Be2 Bb7 10.a4 a5 11.Nd3 g6 12.0-0 0-0 13.h3 c5 14.g4 hxg4 15.hxg4 d5 16.e5 Ne8 17.Rc1 Nc7 18.Nf4 Kg7 19.Kg2 cxd4 20.cxd4 Rac8 21.Qe1 Na6 22.Rxc8 Bxc8 23.Bb5 Nb4
Stockfish has various “winning” scores hat it gives itself when it is well ahead. To see what that means, take a large number of Stockfish annotated games and plot a histogram of all possible evaluations. You’ll find various peaks with nothing in between at both ends of the scale. Last time I tried this there were three winning evaluation peaks at each end of the scale.
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