TCEC no needs many games to have the perfect ranking

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JJJ
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TCEC no needs many games to have the perfect ranking

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So far, almost all engine are in the right order and it is only 29 games for each engines !
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Re: TCEC no needs many games to have the perfect ranking

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JJJ wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:24 am So far, almost all engine are in the right order and it is only 29 games for each engines !
Hilarious. You see something which fits your expectation and you deduct now it will always be that way?
I guess you don't see the flaw in your thinking?

May be you meant your post ironically though, because even your 'almost right order' is nonsense when we are
comparing the 14 participants and around 6 of them are near the same strength?

Even the notorious whacky TCEC ratings don't agree with what you seem to see.
(not even talking about what you deduct from what is not there)
Actually nearly nothing seems in the right place, doh.

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1 Sufi13 Stockfish 18102108             29      23.0    3519    20 [3539]
2 Sufi14 Stockfish 190203               29      23.0    3588    -15 [3573]
3 Sufi12 Stockfish 180614               29      22.5    3519    11 [3530]
4 Sufi11 Stockfish 260318               29      20.5    3546    -42 [3504]
5 Sufi10 Houdini 6.03                   29      17.5    3185    136 [3321]
6 Sufi15 LCZero v0.21.1-nT40.T8.610     29      17.5    3589    -124 [3465]
7 Sufi9 Stockfish 8                     29      15.5    3228    72 [3300]
8 Sufi8 Komodo 9.3                      29      14.0    3223    46 [3269]
9 Sufi7 Komodo 9.2                      29      11.5    3210    11 [3221]
10 Sufi5 Komodo 8                       29      11.0    3104    77 [3181]
11 Sufi6 Stockfish 6                    29      10.0    3164    19 [3183]
12 Sufi3 Rybka 4.1                      29      7.5     3083    14 [3097]
13 Sufi4 Houdini 3                      29      5.0     3162    -85 [3077]
14 Sufi1&2 Houdini 1.5a                 29      4.5     3211    -140 [3071]
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Re: TCEC no needs many games to have the perfect ranking

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It seems hard to grasp for many that great many events you see or experience have an irreducibe degree of randomness. The usual formal education doesn't help much, for example classical mechanics as presented in high schools is strictly deterministic.
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Re: TCEC no needs many games to have the perfect ranking

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More in the perfect ranking. Of course in a rating List, Lczero is below Stockfish dev but above Houdini 6. 35/36 games so far.