Tim Krabbé wrote:
But perhaps Nemeth's greatest invention is an absurd anti-computer gambit that I would like to call the Nemeth Gambit. Using it, he beat five of the world's strongest chess programs in one day.
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IMHO, This is clearly a position that engines just don't understand. Try to change my mind! Much respect for going all tactical on them Eduard!
Komodo wrote:
Analysis by Komodo 13.01 64-bit MCTS:
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Ted Summers
Paloma wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 2:23 am
Ted, what was the time of your runs?
Maybe to short? Because Vinvin's 4:26 min shows other results.
They were all over 30 minutes. Ny MultiPV's were set to 8 lines however.
"Good decisions come from experience, and experience comes from bad decisions."
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Ted Summers
Paloma wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 2:23 am
Ted, what was the time of your runs?
Maybe to short? Because Vinvin's 4:26 min shows other results.
Hi !
It's a 4:26 min but with a lot of learning before. Especially to find 1...Ke5 is losing.
I'll post the difference between SF and McCain after 1...Ke5? where SF understand very late that black is losing (because of SF heavy pruning in dangerous positions).
Thanks Ted! I remember. That was a game against Fritz 8!
That was 18 years ago! It was a nice time, and I had a lot of fun.
In the present time it is no longer possible to win against modern engines like Stockfish, Komodo, Houdini and Lc0!
But I'm not sad about that, no, that's great! It's a pleasure to see how strong the current engines are. That was a reason for me, to be new interested in computer chess.
With great fun I let now runs the engines on the chess servers (playchess and infinitychess).
I would like to take this opportunity to thank all programmers! They are doing great things. Also to teams of Stockfish, Komodo and Lc0: Thanks!
Eduard wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 1:54 pm
Thanks Ted! I remember. That was a game against Fritz 8!
Eduard, how did you come up with this gambit line?
Eduard wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 1:54 pm
In the present time it is no longer possible to win against modern engines like Stockfish, Komodo, Houdini and Lc0!
Yes. I don't think anything will make SF like 7...Ke6? (it prefers Kg1 and g6) or 8...Kd5?
After 8. Qg4+, SF gives back the piece with big advantage for Black.
8... Kf7 9. Qxe4 d5 10. Qd3 e5 11. Ne2 h5 12. O-O a6 13. Nb1 g6 14. Qd1 Bf5
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15. Ng3 e4 16. Bf4 Qf6 17. Nxf5 gxf5 18. Kh1 Bh6
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Paloma wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 2:23 am
Ted, what was the time of your runs?
Maybe to short? Because Vinvin's 4:26 min shows other results.
Hi !
It's a 4:26 min but with a lot of learning before. Especially to find 1...Ke5 is losing.
I'll post the difference between SF and McCain after 1...Ke5? where SF understand very late that black is losing (because of SF heavy pruning in dangerous positions).
Here's a nice test position after the variant : 1...Ke5? 2. Nf3+ Kf6 3. Qf4+ Ke6
and here, find 4. Nb5!! cxb2 5. Nbd4+! Nxd4 6. Nxd4+ Kd5 7. O-O! bxa1=Q 8. Rxa1 +-
[D]r1bq1b1r/pp1pp1pp/2n1k3/8/4nQ2/N1p1BN1P/PP3PP1/R3K2R w KQ - 5 4
After some learning :