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AMD questions

Post by Leo » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:14 pm

Does AMD CPUs generate a lot more heat than intel?

Does Intel use higher quality parts?
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Re: AMD questions

Post by Dann Corbit » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:40 pm

To find out how much heat a CPU produces, just look at the wattage rating for the CPU you are interested in.

And as far as which is better, Intel or AMD, I guess it depends on who you ask. Here is an AMD shot over the bow:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... TKhf__X7Tq
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Re: AMD questions

Post by Leo » Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:12 pm

I was chatting with a Best Buy employee. He was giving his reasons for liking Intel. Optane doesn't do much he said. I told him I want Ryzen 3 coming later this year.
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Re: AMD questions

Post by mwyoung » Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:51 am

Leo wrote:
Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:14 pm
Does AMD CPUs generate a lot more heat than intel?

Does Intel use higher quality parts?
Q1: It depends on the CPU. The 9900K runs very hot, but it also is the fastest gaming CPU. Best single core performance.

Q2: Intel was cutting corners to lower production cost. But they have stepped up their game since Ryzen. Both make good CPUs.

Intel and AMD make good CPUs. The one to pick depends on what you want from your computer. If you want the fastest cores go with Intel for gaming. Best bang for the buck, and higher core counts you go with AMD.

This could change with Ryzen 3000. And change again when Intel releases their 10 nm CPUs at the end of the year.
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Re: AMD questions

Post by Geonerd » Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:21 am

AMD's next-generation Ryzen chips, due to hit the shelves in a few months, should have excellent performance-per-watt, possibly significantly better than Intel's offerings. Watch the first 4 or five minutes of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g39dpcdzTvk

These chips will almost certainly cost less for equal performance.

The current Ryzen chips are, I think, close to equal with Intel on a performance-per-watt basis. At least to the point that it's not worth worrying about.

As for 'cheaper parts,' I'm really not sure what you mean. TSMC will be fabricating the chips using one of the the world's most advanced chip production facilities.

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Re: AMD questions

Post by Leo » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:49 am

Thanks everybody for the comments. I was mostly concerned about AMD running to hot. I don't think I need to worry about it.
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Re: AMD questions

Post by smatovic » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:04 am

Leo wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:49 am
Thanks everybody for the comments. I was mostly concerned about AMD running to hot. I don't think I need to worry about it.
Well, current Intel and AMD 16 core cpus produce more than 150 Watt thermal power under load.
Therefore some people prefer an all in one water cooling solution, e.g.

https://www.newegg.com/Water-Liquid-Coo ... ory/ID-575

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Re: AMD questions

Post by Leo » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:12 am

smatovic wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:04 am
Leo wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:49 am
Thanks everybody for the comments. I was mostly concerned about AMD running to hot. I don't think I need to worry about it.
Well, current Intel and AMD 16 core cpus produce more than 150 Watt thermal power under load.
Therefore some people prefer an all in one water cooling solution, e.g.

https://www.newegg.com/Water-Liquid-Coo ... ?Tid=65757

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Right. With that many cores I would do that.
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Re: AMD questions

Post by mwyoung » Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:17 pm

Leo wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:12 am
smatovic wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:04 am
Leo wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:49 am
Thanks everybody for the comments. I was mostly concerned about AMD running to hot. I don't think I need to worry about it.
Well, current Intel and AMD 16 core cpus produce more than 150 Watt thermal power under load.
Therefore some people prefer an all in one water cooling solution, e.g.

https://www.newegg.com/Water-Liquid-Coo ... ?Tid=65757

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Srdja
Right. With that many cores I would do that.
You do this cooling solution and will be very disappointed.

If setup correctly the amd 16 core will score over 8000 on cinebench r20. I score 8063. And this is the best score of any CPU under $1000. The 9900k scores around 5000.

But you have use the correct AIO. Or you will be stuck with stock speed of about 6600.
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Re: AMD questions

Post by Leo » Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:54 pm

mwyoung wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:17 pm
Leo wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:12 am
smatovic wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:04 am
Leo wrote:
Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:49 am
Thanks everybody for the comments. I was mostly concerned about AMD running to hot. I don't think I need to worry about it.
Well, current Intel and AMD 16 core cpus produce more than 150 Watt thermal power under load.
Therefore some people prefer an all in one water cooling solution, e.g.

https://www.newegg.com/Water-Liquid-Coo ... ?Tid=65757

--
Srdja
Right. With that many cores I would do that.
You do this cooling solution and will be very disappointed.

If setup correctly the amd 16 core will score over 8000 on cinebench r20. I score 8063. And this is the best score of any CPU under $1000. The 9900k scores around 5000.

But you have use the correct AIO. Or you will be stuck with stock speed of about 6600.
What is AIO?
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