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Re: Chess.com 2018 Bonus games

Post by ernest » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:32 pm

Guenther wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:43 am

Houdini does exactly what Erin showed above. It reverts to the usual start position
and treats the Qs as Rs. It will only crash when one of those Qs act different than a R.
Yes Guenther, you are totally right !

But I found 1 exception... :)
Look at game 36 Houdini-Lc0 where Houdini refuses to play move 11.
(although maybe it's a problem of castling rights...)

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Re: Chess.com 2018 Bonus games

Post by Guenther » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:33 pm

ernest wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:32 pm
Guenther wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:43 am

Houdini does exactly what Erin showed above. It reverts to the usual start position
and treats the Qs as Rs. It will only crash when one of those Qs act different than a R.
Yes Guenther, you are totally right !

But I found 1 exception... :)
Look at game 36 Houdini-Lc0 where Houdini refuses to play move 11.
(although maybe it's a problem of castling rights...)
It's no exception Ernest, actually it is a case when the desired move is illegal on two occasions.
H obviously wanted to castle short assuming Qh1 is Rh1 and assuming Qa6 is Ra6 so it wanted to castle
through a check with a non-existent Rook.
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Re: Chess.com 2018 Bonus games

Post by chrisw » Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:33 pm

Paloma wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:36 pm
https://www.chess.com/news/view/stockfi ... -3rd#bonus

Bonus games:

After the finals and the third-place match, computer chess fans can relax and enjoy some bonus rounds of odds chess positions. These crazy games might not settle who is best at traditional chess, but they are sure to provide fireworks on the chessboard.

The top six engines from stage two will play a 2x-round-robin tournament with five different positions for a total of 150 games. Each engine will play every other engine one time as White and one time as Black in each position.

The bonus rounds are expected to last about four days of non-stop, odds-chess action.

Details on the positions are below.

The only interesting one, in my humble opinion, is the remove f2-pawn one. This is a well known odds position (well if you ever played hustler blitz in chess cafes), to sucker in an opponent who would otherwise decline to play. Offer pawn odds, take off your f pawn and make the first move. I used to think it was probably better for white anyway. Are there any stats from this tournament on the win rate for white yet?

The other positions are dumb. There’s firstly no guarantee that wild imbalances won’t break some engine data structures, and there is a guarantee that a neural net engine is going to have no idea what to do, neither with wild imbalances, nor with pieces in wildly semi-impossible positions.

Bonus games participants—top 6 engines from CCCC 1:

Stockfish .... 220818
Houdini ...... 6.03
Lc0 .......... 17.11089
Komodo .... 2118.00
Ethereal ... 10.88
Fire ......... 7.1

Bonus position 1: Knightmare!
White starts with only knights for pieces while Black starts with normal piece set minus the knights.


Stockfish 9 starting eval: -4.88


Bonus position 2: White missing f2 pawn.


Stockfish 9 starting eval: -1.00


Bonus position 3: Replace rooks with queens.


Stockfish 9 starting eval: +0.35


Bonus position 4: Sideways chess! (minus the rooks)


Stockfish 9 starting eval: +1.49


Bonus position 5: Moving on up! White starts up one rank. White can't castle but Black can.


Stockfish 9 starting eval: +1.18

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Re: Chess.com 2018 Bonus games

Post by Uri Blass » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:29 pm

It is possible to see the games

Out of 30 games black won 15 games and white won only 1 game if I counted correctly(the game lc0 beat stockfish)
lc0 caught some of the opponent in an opening trap and it seems that after 1.e4 e6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4 Bb4 4.e5 Qh4+? white get equality because
after 5.g3 black had to play Qd8 and cannot capture the rook.

Both stockfish and houdini fell into this trap against lc0 but houdini got a draw when stockfish blundered also later in the game.

final result of the games without f pawn.

1-4)lc0 +4 =3 -3 5.5 points
1-4)stockfish +3 =5 -2 5.5 points
1-4)komodo +3 =5 -2 5.5 points
1-4)houdini +2 =7 -1 5.5 points
5)Fire +3 =4 -3 5 points
6)Ethereal +1 =4 -5 3 points

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Re: Chess.com 2018 Bonus games

Post by Uri Blass » Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:33 pm

I believe it is a forced mate but stockfish at depth 50 could not see it





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38/73- 05:14 992,514k 3,154k +2.96 1.b8Q g1Q
38/73+ 05:34 1,056,652k 3,156k +3.25 1.b8Q
38/73 06:01 1,143,392k 3,165k +3.32 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.b6 Qe3 4.Qd6 Nf6 5.b8Q g1Q 6.b7 Qgf2 7.Qbd8 g3 8.b8Q g2 9.Qxh2 Qxa7 10.Qxa7 Qxa7 11.b5 g1Q 12.Qxg1 Qxg1 13.b6 Bd7 14.Bb5 Bg4 15.Bc6 Qhf2 16.Nc3 Bf3 17.Bxf3+ Qxf3 18.Qb5 Qb7 19.Qa6 Qf3 20.b7 Qf5+ 21.Nb5 Nd7 22.Qxd7 Qxd7 23.b8Q Qe1+ 24.b4 g4 25.Nc3 Qf2 26.b5 Bd2 27.Qad6 Qfa7+ 28.Qxa7 Qxa7+ 29.Kb4 Qf2 30.Qc5+ Qf5
39/53+ 06:27 1,229,428k 3,175k +3.41 1.b8Q
39/53+ 06:47 1,295,821k 3,178k +3.49 1.b8Q
39/62 07:24 1,414,622k 3,184k +3.30 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.b6 Qe3 4.Qd6 g1Q 5.b8Q Nf6 6.b7 Qgf2 7.Qbd8 g3 8.b8Q g2 9.Qxh2 Qxa7 10.Qxa7 Qxa7 11.b5 g1Q 12.Qxg1 Qxg1 13.b6 Bd7 14.Bb5 Qxa4+ 15.bxa4 Bxb5 16.axb5 g4 17.Ka6 Bf4 18.b7 Qh2 19.Nc3 g5 20.Nd5 Nxd5 21.Qxd5 Be5 22.Qg8 Kh6 23.Qe6+ Kh5 24.Qe8+ Kh6 25.Ka7 Qf4 26.b6 g3 27.b3 g4 28.Bc5 Kg5 29.Qd8+ Kg6 30.b8Q Bxb8+ 31.Qxb8
40/39- 07:36 1,453,856k 3,187k +3.21 1.b8Q g1Q
40/39- 07:39 1,463,122k 3,187k +3.13 1.b8Q g1Q
40/63+ 07:48 1,492,961k 3,188k +3.21 1.b8Q
40/63+ 08:13 1,574,609k 3,193k +3.40 1.b8Q
40/78 09:19 1,797,922k 3,213k +3.43 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.b6 Qe3 4.Qd6 Nf6 5.b8Q g1Q 6.b7 Qgf2 7.Qbd8 g3 8.b8Q g2 9.Qxh2 Qxa7 10.Qxa7 Qxa7 11.b5 g1Q 12.Qxg1 Qxg1 13.b6 Bd7 14.Bb5 Bg4 15.Bc6 Qhf2 16.Nc3 Bf3 17.Bxf3+ Qxf3 18.Qb5 Qb7 19.Qa6 Qf3 20.b7 Qf5+ 21.Ka4 Nd7 22.b8Q Nxb8 23.Qxb8 Qd7+ 24.Ka5 g4 25.Qad6 Qxd6 26.Bxd6 Qf2 27.Kb4 Qd4+ 28.Ka3 Be3 29.b4 Qa7+ 30.Qxa7 Bxa7 31.Ka4 Bd4 32.b5
41/68+ 10:23 2,009,985k 3,224k +3.52 1.b8Q
41/68- 11:25 2,206,722k 3,218k +3.35 1.b8Q g1Q
41/68- 11:28 2,215,186k 3,218k +3.22 1.b8Q g1Q
41/68+ 11:45 2,273,039k 3,220k +3.35 1.b8Q
41/70+ 13:31 2,608,983k 3,214k +3.60 1.b8Q
41/72 15:48 3,062,436k 3,227k +3.21 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.Qd6 Nf6 4.b8Q Qe3 5.b6 g1Q 6.b7 g3 7.Qbc7 Bd7 8.Qaxd7 Nxd7 9.Qcxd7 Qxa7 10.b8Q Qxb8 11.Qxb8 g2 12.Nc3 Qe3 13.Ne2 g1R 14.Nxg1 Qxg1 15.Bd3 Qge1 16.Qbd6 Qhg3 17.Qxg3 Qxg3 18.b5 g4 19.Qd6 Bf4 20.Qxg6+ Kh4 21.Qh7+ Bh6 22.Qe4 Qf4 23.b6 Qxe4 24.Bxe4 Bf4 25.Bc5 Nf3 26.b4 Kh3 27.Bc6 Ne5 28.Bb5 g3 29.b7 Ng4 30.Bd4
42/69+ 16:45 3,247,646k 3,230k +3.29 1.b8Q
42/69+ 17:04 3,309,619k 3,231k +3.38 1.b8Q
42/69+ 17:14 3,341,354k 3,231k +3.51 1.b8Q
42/71 18:30 3,592,453k 3,235k +3.60 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.Qd6 Qe3 4.b6 g1Q 5.b8Q Nf6 6.b7 g3 7.Qbc7 Bd7 8.Qcxd7 Nxd7 9.Qaxd7 Qxa7 10.Qe8 Qb1 11.b8Q Qxb8 12.Qdxb8 g4 13.Qbb5+ Qg5 14.Qxg5+ Bxg5 15.Nc3 Qh1 16.b5 g2 17.b6 g1Q 18.b7 Qxb7 19.Bxb7 Qa7+ 20.Ba6 Nf3 21.Ne4 Qc7+ 22.Ka4 Qe5 23.Qxe5 Nxe5 24.Bd6 Bf4 25.Nc3 Kg5 26.Be7+ Kh5 27.Ne2 g5 28.b4
43/57 21:51 4,245,786k 3,237k +3.61 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.Qd6 Qe3 4.b6 g1Q 5.b8Q Nf6 6.b7 Qgf2 7.Qbd8 g3 8.b8Q g2 9.Qxh2 Qxa7 10.Qxa7 Qxa7 11.b5 g1Q 12.Qxg1 Qxg1 13.b6 Qf4 14.Nc3 Bg4 15.Qd6 Nd7 16.Qb5 Qxd6 17.Bxd6 Nxb6 18.Qxb6 Qxb6+ 19.Kxb6 Bf3 20.b4 g4 21.Bd3 Be3+ 22.Kc7 Kh4 23.Ne4 g5 24.b5 Bf4 25.b6 g3 26.Bxf4 gxf4 27.b7 g2
44/67+ 24:22 4,739,812k 3,240k +3.70 1.b8Q
44/72- 27:40 5,382,622k 3,241k +3.53 1.b8Q g1Q
44/72- 27:50 5,414,884k 3,241k +3.40 1.b8Q g1Q
44/72- 29:06 5,649,009k 3,235k +3.21 1.b8Q g1Q
44/72+ 32:58 6,398,380k 3,234k +3.37 1.b8Q
44/72+ 33:46 6,556,505k 3,235k +3.71 1.b8Q
44/79 35:14 6,839,850k 3,235k +3.71 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.Qd6 Nf6 4.b8Q Qe3 5.b6 g1Q 6.b7 g3 7.Qbc7 Bd7 8.Qcxd7 Nxd7 9.Qaxd7 Qxa7 10.b8Q Qxb8 11.Qxb8 Qe3 12.Nc3 g2 13.Ne2 g1Q 14.Nxg1 Qxg1 15.Bd3 Qe3 16.Qbd6 Qhf2 17.b5 Ng4 18.Bxg6+ Kh4 19.Q7c7 Qxb3 20.b6 Qe1+ 21.Ka6 Qa4+ 22.Kb7 Ne5 23.Qxe5 Qh1+ 24.Qe4+ Qhxe4+ 25.Bxe4 Qxe4+ 26.Qc6 Qe1 27.Kc7 g4 28.Bd6 Be3 29.b4 Qf1 30.b7 Qf7+ 31.Kc8 Ba7 32.b8R Qg8+ 33.Kb7 Bxb8 34.Bxb8 Qf7+ 35.Ka6 Kg5 36.b5 Qf2 37.Qd5+ Kg6
45/63- 36:24 7,066,433k 3,235k +3.62 1.b8Q g1Q
45/65 37:25 7,262,296k 3,234k +3.64 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 Qe3 3.Qd6 g2 4.b8Q Nf6 5.b6 g1Q 6.b7 g3 7.Qbc7 Bd7 8.Qaxd7 Nxd7 9.Qcxd7 Qxa7 10.b8Q Qxb8 11.Qxb8 g2 12.Nc3 Qe3 13.Ne2 g1Q 14.Nxg1 Qxg1 15.Bd3 Qe3 16.Qbd6 Qhf2 17.b5 g4 18.b6 Bf4 19.Qxg6+ Kh4 20.Ka6 Kg3 21.Bc4 Qd4 22.Qdxg7 Qxg7 23.Qxg7 Nf3 24.Qd7 Qd2 25.Qc8 Qd4 26.b7 Qe5 27.Bb4 Nd4 28.Bc5 Kf3
46/72- 39:33 7,675,880k 3,234k +3.55 1.b8Q g1Q
46/72+ 39:53 7,743,142k 3,235k +3.64 1.b8Q
46/72+ 45:45 8,873,004k 3,232k +3.77 1.b8Q
46/73- 50:43 9,873,121k 3,244k +3.46 1.b8Q g1Q
46/73+ 50:57 9,920,679k 3,245k +3.71 1.b8Q
46/80 53:45 10,473,905k 3,247k +3.60 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.Qd6 Nf6 4.b8Q Qe3 5.b6 g1Q 6.b7 Qgf2 7.Qbd8 g3 8.b8Q g2 9.Qxh2 Qxa7 10.Qxa7 Qxa7 11.b5 g1Q 12.Qxg1 Qxg1 13.b6 Bd7 14.Bb5 Qxa4+ 15.bxa4 Bxb5 16.axb5 g4 17.Ka6 Bf4 18.b7 Qh2 19.Nc3 g5 20.Nd5 Nxd5 21.Qxd5 Bb8 22.Qg8 Kg6 23.Qe6+ Kh7 24.Qxg4 Qf4 25.Qh5+ Kg8 26.Qe8+ Kh7 27.Bc5 Qa4+ 28.Kb6 Qf4 29.b3 g4 30.Qh5+ Qh6+ 31.Qxh6+ gxh6 32.Kc6 g3 33.Kd7 Kg6 34.Kc8 Bf4 35.b6 h5 36.b8Q Bxb8 37.Kxb8 h4
47/67+ 59:46 11,662,926k 3,252k +3.69 1.b8Q
47/67- 1:04:47 12,558,358k 3,230k +3.52 1.b8Q g1Q
47/67+ 1:05:30 12,671,347k 3,223k +3.65 1.b8Q
47/77 1:13:50 14,064,010k 3,174k +3.71 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.Qd6 g3 4.b6 Qe3 5.b8Q Nf6 6.b7 g1Q 7.Qbc7 Bd7 8.Qaxd7 Nxd7 9.Qcxd7 Qxa7 10.b8Q Qxb8 11.Qxb8 Qe3 12.Nc3 g2 13.Ne2 g1Q 14.Nxg1 Qxg1 15.Bd3 Qe3 16.Qbd6 Qhf2 17.b5 g4 18.Qxg6+ Kh4 19.b6 Bf4 20.Ka6 Be5 21.Qde6 Qd4 22.Bc4 Qff4 23.b7 Kg3 24.Bb4 Nf3 25.Bc3 Qd6+ 26.Qxd6 Bxd6 27.Qxg7 Bc7 28.Bb4 Be5 29.Qg6 Bb8 30.Qb6 Kh3 31.Bc3 Qg5 32.Bd3 g3 33.Qe6+ Kh2
48/73+ 1:20:44 15,350,717k 3,169k +3.80 1.b8Q
48/73- 1:23:27 15,883,491k 3,172k +3.63 1.b8Q g1Q
48/73+ 1:23:37 15,917,816k 3,172k +3.76 1.b8Q
48/73 1:29:38 17,089,371k 3,177k +3.81 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.Qd6 g3 4.b6 Qe3 5.b8Q Nf6 6.b7 g1Q 7.Qbc7 Bd7 8.Qaxd7 Nxd7 9.Qcxd7 Qxa7 10.b8Q Qxb8 11.Qxb8 g2 12.Nc3 Qe3 13.Ne2 g1R 14.Nxg1 Qxg1 15.Bd3 Qe3 16.Qbd6 Qhf2 17.b5 g4 18.Qxg6+ Kh4 19.b6 Bf4 20.Ka6 Qd4 21.Qdxg7 Qfe3 22.Bc4 Be5 23.Q7h6+ Qxh6 24.Qxh6+ Kg3 25.Qc6 Nf3 26.b7 Kh3 27.Bd5 Qf4 28.Bc5 Qd2 29.Bxf3 Qd3+ 30.Ka7 Qxf3 31.Qxf3+ gxf3
49/65- 1:30:41 17,287,837k 3,177k +3.72 1.b8Q g1Q
49/68- 1:33:04 17,747,150k 3,178k +3.64 1.b8Q g1Q
49/68+ 1:34:09 17,945,071k 3,176k +3.72 1.b8Q
49/72- 1:40:38 19,108,386k 3,165k +3.51 1.b8Q g1Q
49/73+ 1:43:01 19,552,372k 3,163k +3.71 1.b8Q
49/73 1:48:34 20,471,579k 3,142k +3.71 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.b6 Qe3 4.Qd6 Nf6 5.b8Q g1Q 6.b7 g3 7.Qbc7 Bd7 8.Qaxd7 Nxd7 9.Qcxd7 Qxa7 10.b8Q Qxd7 11.Qxd7 g2 12.Nc3 Qe3 13.Ne2 g1Q 14.Nxg1 Qxg1 15.Bd3 Qe3 16.Qbd6 Qhf4 17.b5 Qxd6 18.Qxd6 Nf3 19.Bc5 Qd2+ 20.Bb4 Qe3 21.b6 g4 22.b7 Bf4 23.Bxg6+ Kh4 24.b8Q Bxd6 25.Qxd6 Kh3 26.Ka4 Qa7+ 27.Ba5 Qf2 28.b4 Qxb2 29.Bc7 Qa2+ 30.Kb5 Qf2 31.Kc6 Nd4+ 32.Kb7 g3 33.Qd5
50/77- 1:54:26 21,446,801k 3,123k +3.63 1.b8Q g1Q
50/77+ 1:54:55 21,523,862k 3,122k +3.71 1.b8Q
50/85+ 2:09:07 24,136,812k 3,115k +3.85 1.b8Q
50/85 2:20:39 26,314,487k 3,118k +3.84 1.b8Q g1Q 2.b7 g2 3.b6 Qe3 4.Qd6 Nf6 5.b8Q g1Q 6.b7 g3 7.Qbc7 Bd7 8.Qaxd7 Nxd7 9.Qcxd7 Qxa7 10.b8Q Qxd7 11.Qxd7 g2 12.Nc3 Qe3 13.Ne2 g1Q 14.Nxg1 Qxg1 15.Bd3 Qe3 16.Qbd6 Qhf2 17.b5 g4 18.Qxg6+ Kh4 19.b6 Bf4 20.Ka6 Qd4 21.Qdxg7 Kg3 22.Bc4 Qxg7 23.Qxg7 Nf3 24.Qf8 Qd4 25.b7 Qe5 26.Qd8 Nd4 27.b8R Qxb8 28.Qxd4 Qc8+ 29.Kb5 Qb7+ 30.Qb6 Qxb6+ 31.Kxb6 Be5 32.Kc6

carldaman
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Re: Chess.com 2018 Bogus games

Post by carldaman » Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:02 am

For real testing purposes, they might as well be called bogus games, considering the highly irregular and less than relevant starting positions. :|
:P

chrisw
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Re: Chess.com 2018 Bonus games

Post by chrisw » Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:28 am

Uri Blass wrote:
Sat Oct 06, 2018 9:29 pm
It is possible to see the games

Out of 30 games black won 15 games and white won only 1 game if I counted correctly(the game lc0 beat stockfish)
Oh well, I suppose it is just a hustler's gambit then. White needs to develop and attack fast (eg e4, Nf3, Bc4 O-O) for there to be any chance, but I suppose on reflection that a deep searcher will likely be able to defend and hold and then win with the extra pawn. Were any of the games along those lines?

Maybe they can try the next time round with removal of h2 or a2 pawn
lc0 caught some of the opponent in an opening trap and it seems that after 1.e4 e6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4 Bb4 4.e5 Qh4+? white get equality because
after 5.g3 black had to play Qd8 and cannot capture the rook.

Both stockfish and houdini fell into this trap against lc0 but houdini got a draw when stockfish blundered also later in the game.

final result of the games without f pawn.

1-4)lc0 +4 =3 -3 5.5 points
1-4)stockfish +3 =5 -2 5.5 points
1-4)komodo +3 =5 -2 5.5 points
1-4)houdini +2 =7 -1 5.5 points
5)Fire +3 =4 -3 5 points
6)Ethereal +1 =4 -5 3 points

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