Is it winable for white

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xr_a_y
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Is it winable for white

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In this position

[d] 8/8/2k1P3/5P2/6Pb/3K4/8/3B4 b - - 0 100

Weini totally failed to find a winning sequence of move (so do I ...).

Stockfish is seeing +2.2 but when playing Stockfish moves on lichess from this position, score drops do +1 quickly.
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Re: Is it winable for white

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It's a TB draw.
See 7-piece TBs here : https://lichess.org/analysis/standard/8 ... _-_-_0_100
click on the book icon.
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Re: Is it winable for white

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Vinvin wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:51 am It's a TB draw.
See 7-piece TBs here : https://lichess.org/analysis/standard/8 ... _-_-_0_100
click on the book icon.
Oops, forgot to check TB ... Thanks.

What will be the clue to detect the draw without TB in an engine ?

I already divide the score by 3 when it is a final with opposite color bishop as discuss in a previous post...
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Re: Is it winable for white

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xr_a_y wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:57 am
Vinvin wrote: Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:51 am It's a TB draw.
See 7-piece TBs here : https://lichess.org/analysis/standard/8 ... _-_-_0_100
click on the book icon.
Oops, forgot to check TB ... Thanks.

What will be the clue to detect the draw without TB in an engine ?

I already divide the score by 3 when it is a final with opposite color bishop as discuss in a previous post...
I think it makes not much sense to care about those very rare special cases at this stage,
especially, if even SF with some search (and w/o TBS) shows here +2.2 at first.
Better add first more common and more likely to appear engdame patterns, if search isn't enough.
E.g. K vs. KP, KRP vs. KR, KP vs. KQ, K vs KBP (wrong Bishop for a/h pawn), or may be even K vs. KBN (though still rare, but more elemental)
https://rwbc-chess.de

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