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CCC - Fritz vs LC0

Post by Lion » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:43 am

What a game by LC0 !

This seems to start looking like the Alpha0 games vs Stockfish..........

[Event "CCCC 1: Rapid Rumble (15|5) Stage 1"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2018.09.05"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fritz 16.10"]
[Black "Lc0 17.11089"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "3200"]
[BlackElo "3300"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[ECO "A40"]
[Opening "Queen's pawn"]
[TimeControl "900+5"]
[Time "07:11:13"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "1"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 O-O 5. Bd3 d5 6. Nf3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 c5 8. O-O
cxd4 9. exd4 a6 10. Ne5 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. Na4 Nd5 13. Qd3 a5 14. Rd1 Qh4 15.
Qe2 Re8 16. g3 Qf6 17. Bd2 Bf8 18. Qe5 Qg6 19. Rac1 Ba6 20. Bxa6 Rxa6 21. Qe2
Rea8 22. Rc4 Be7 23. Rdc1 h5 24. Kg2 Rd8 25. Nc5 Bxc5 26. dxc5 Ra7 27. b3 Nf6
28. Bc3 Nd5 29. Be1 e5 30. Kh1 Re8 31. Re4 Qg5 32. Bd2 Qf5 33. Kg1 Nf6 34. Ra4
Rd7 35. Bxa5 Rd3 36. Bc3 Nd5 37. Bd2 e4 38. Re1 Re6 39. Ra8+ Kh7 40. Ra4 h4 41.
Rc4 Kg8 42. Ra4 h3 43. Bc1 Nc3 44. Qf1 Nxa4 45. bxa4 Re8 46. Bf4 Ra8 47. a5 Rxa5
48. Qe2 Rda3 *

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Re: CCC - Fritz vs LC0

Post by AdminX » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:02 pm

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Re: CCC - Fritz vs LC0

Post by MikeGL » Thu Sep 06, 2018 6:25 am

Very nice game by both engines.
Lc0 giving up material for central control and domination.
1 pawn down until almost at the end of the game.
I think Fritz 16 is just modern Rybka which was renamed, so white (Fritz) is no pushover and was already legendary in computer chess.
Different kind of chess always shown by NN engines, always prefers board space + activity (mobility) than material, also shown on this game.
Lion wrote:
Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:43 am
What a game by LC0 !

This seems to start looking like the Alpha0 games vs Stockfish..........

[Event "CCCC 1: Rapid Rumble (15|5) Stage 1"]
[Site "Chess.com"]
[Date "2018.09.05"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Fritz 16.10"]
[Black "Lc0 17.11089"]
[Result "*"]
[WhiteElo "3200"]
[BlackElo "3300"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[ECO "A40"]
[Opening "Queen's pawn"]
[TimeControl "900+5"]
[Time "07:11:13"]
[Termination "unterminated"]
[PlyCount "1"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e3 O-O 5. Bd3 d5 6. Nf3 dxc4 7. Bxc4 c5 8. O-O
cxd4 9. exd4 a6 10. Ne5 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. Na4 Nd5 13. Qd3 a5 14. Rd1 Qh4 15.
Qe2 Re8 16. g3 Qf6 17. Bd2 Bf8 18. Qe5 Qg6 19. Rac1 Ba6 20. Bxa6 Rxa6 21. Qe2
Rea8 22. Rc4 Be7 23. Rdc1 h5 24. Kg2 Rd8 25. Nc5 Bxc5 26. dxc5 Ra7 27. b3 Nf6
28. Bc3 Nd5 29. Be1 e5 30. Kh1 Re8 31. Re4 Qg5 32. Bd2 Qf5 33. Kg1 Nf6 34. Ra4
Rd7 35. Bxa5 Rd3 36. Bc3 Nd5 37. Bd2 e4 38. Re1 Re6 39. Ra8+ Kh7 40. Ra4 h4 41.
Rc4 Kg8 42. Ra4 h3 43. Bc1 Nc3 44. Qf1 Nxa4 45. bxa4 Re8 46. Bf4 Ra8 47. a5 Rxa5
48. Qe2 Rda3 *
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Re: CCC - Fritz vs LC0

Post by Vinvin » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:25 am

Shallow analyze by SF with graph : https://lichess.org/Bk6YQIcE#86

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Re: CCC - Fritz vs LC0

Post by jdart » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:17 pm

I am not sure where White went wrong first but Stockfish does not like 29. Nc5. Maybe Nc3 is better.

33. Kg1 just looks like a waste of tempo. Stockfish likes 33. Bc3. After that evals start to go negative.

39. Ra8+ also looks like an error. This was White's last chance to play h4, which I think is necessary.

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