Arasan DeusX

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zullil
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Re: Arasan DeusX

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chrisw wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:24 pm
zullil wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:09 pm
chrisw wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:58 pm don't believe these computer main lines, OTB intuition way better
You're joking, right? :)
not really, it depends on how literally you read the comment
Well, in this position, White can win using various sequences of moves. But no human's "OTB intuition" can match a strong engine's search in a position like this. I have no doubt that an engine will bring this game to its conclusion more efficiently and correctly than a human would.

I'm certainly not claiming that any single PV, like the one below, represents a best line of play. But 33. Qe2 is certainly best here.

+3.73 33. Qe2 Re8 34. a3 Bd6 35. e6 Re7 36. Rf1 f6 37. Be4 a6 38. a4 Qb4 39. Rb1 Qxa4 40. Ra1 Qe8 41. Rxa6 Qd8 42. Bd4 Re8 43. Ra7 Qb8 44. Qa2 Qc8 45. Qa4 Qd8 46. Be3 Qb8 47. Qa2 Qc8 48. Bf5 Kh8 49. Bd4 Qb8 50. Qa4 Kg8 51. Bc2 Kh8 52. Be4 Kg8 53. Be3 Qd8 54. Bc2 Qc8 55. Bd3 Qb8 56. Qa2 h5 57. Qa4 Qc8 58. Qc6 Qb8 59. Bf4 Bxf4 60. gxf4 (depth 47, 0:25:59)
chrisw
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Re: Arasan DeusX

Post by chrisw »

zullil wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:37 pm
chrisw wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:24 pm
zullil wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:09 pm
chrisw wrote: Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:58 pm don't believe these computer main lines, OTB intuition way better
You're joking, right? :)
not really, it depends on how literally you read the comment
Well, in this position, White can win using various sequences of moves. But no human's "OTB intuition" can match a strong engine's search in a position like this. I have no doubt that an engine will bring this game to its conclusion more efficiently and correctly than a human would.

I'm certainly not claiming that any single PV, like the one below, represents a best line of play. But 33. Qe2 is certainly best here.

+3.73 33. Qe2 Re8 34. a3 Bd6 35. e6 Re7 36. Rf1 f6 37. Be4 a6 38. a4 Qb4 39. Rb1 Qxa4 40. Ra1 Qe8 41. Rxa6 Qd8 42. Bd4 Re8 43. Ra7 Qb8 44. Qa2 Qc8 45. Qa4 Qd8 46. Be3 Qb8 47. Qa2 Qc8 48. Bf5 Kh8 49. Bd4 Qb8 50. Qa4 Kg8 51. Bc2 Kh8 52. Be4 Kg8 53. Be3 Qd8 54. Bc2 Qc8 55. Bd3 Qb8 56. Qa2 h5 57. Qa4 Qc8 58. Qc6 Qb8 59. Bf4 Bxf4 60. gxf4 (depth 47, 0:25:59)
Yes, I understand exactly what you're staying here.

But I want to hear what you think, not what your computer thinks.