TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by Graham Banks » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:30 am

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:24 am
Well, there is extreme high possibility that Deus X authour is Deep Junior Authour, Shay Bushinsky.
https://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aima ... /view/2255

So you will be seeing updated version(work of art) of Junior!!
:D :)
No - you're wrong, but my lips are sealed. :wink:
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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by Ozymandias » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:01 am

Graham Banks wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:30 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:24 am
Well, there is extreme high possibility that Deus X authour is Deep Junior Authour, Shay Bushinsky.
https://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aima ... /view/2255

So you will be seeing updated version(work of art) of Junior!!
:D :)
No - you're wrong, but my lips are sealed. :wink:
Hey, no teasing Graham :)

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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by yanquis1972 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:23 am

imo extremely high possibility author is graham

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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by whereagles » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:51 pm

Deep Junior had multiple crash issues in previous seasons and was discontinued. Hence, it will not make a comeback unless someone continues its developing and (at least) fixes bugs.

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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by Nay Lin Tun » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:58 pm

Graham Banks wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:30 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:24 am
Well, there is extreme high possibility that Deus X authour is Deep Junior Authour, Shay Bushinsky.
https://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aima ... /view/2255

So you will be seeing updated version(work of art) of Junior!!
:D :)
No - you're wrong, but my lips are sealed. :wink:
What about Tencent company?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/genera ... -season-13

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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by Graham Banks » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:33 am

Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:58 pm
Graham Banks wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:30 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:24 am
Well, there is extreme high possibility that Deus X authour is Deep Junior Authour, Shay Bushinsky.
https://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aima ... /view/2255

So you will be seeing updated version(work of art) of Junior!!
:D :)
No - you're wrong, but my lips are sealed. :wink:
What about Tencent company?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/genera ... -season-13
http://www.chessdom.com/deus-x-the-nn-c ... rt-silver/
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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by CMCanavessi » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:59 am

Graham Banks wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:33 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:58 pm
Graham Banks wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:30 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:24 am
Well, there is extreme high possibility that Deus X authour is Deep Junior Authour, Shay Bushinsky.
https://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aima ... /view/2255

So you will be seeing updated version(work of art) of Junior!!
:D :)
No - you're wrong, but my lips are sealed. :wink:
What about Tencent company?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/genera ... -season-13
http://www.chessdom.com/deus-x-the-nn-c ... rt-silver/
That's an awesome surprise! I wonder if the engine will be made public? I'll watch the interview.
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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by Milos » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:03 am

Graham Banks wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:33 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:58 pm
Graham Banks wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:30 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:24 am
Well, there is extreme high possibility that Deus X authour is Deep Junior Authour, Shay Bushinsky.
https://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aima ... /view/2255

So you will be seeing updated version(work of art) of Junior!!
:D :)
No - you're wrong, but my lips are sealed. :wink:
What about Tencent company?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/genera ... -season-13
http://www.chessdom.com/deus-x-the-nn-c ... rt-silver/
My God, what a load of BS. I would think that submitting main engine and then it's tweaked clone is something that wouldn't be allowed by TCEC rules, but apparently it it going to be.

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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by glennsamuel32 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:36 am

Since Nelson is calling him a developer, did he actually develop a new engine or just a new net ?
AFAIK, ASilver has done supervised training using correspondence games for 30-45 days :D
Surprising that TCEC allows that -- maybe Asmfish, Brainfish and CFish could play too !!

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Re: TCEC season 13, 2 NN engines will be participating, Leela and Deus X

Post by Guenther » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:15 am

Milos wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 2:03 am
Graham Banks wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:33 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:58 pm
Graham Banks wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:30 am
Nay Lin Tun wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:24 am
Well, there is extreme high possibility that Deus X authour is Deep Junior Authour, Shay Bushinsky.
https://www.aaai.org/ojs/index.php/aima ... /view/2255

So you will be seeing updated version(work of art) of Junior!!
:D :)
No - you're wrong, but my lips are sealed. :wink:
What about Tencent company?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/genera ... -season-13
http://www.chessdom.com/deus-x-the-nn-c ... rt-silver/
My God, what a load of BS. I would think that submitting main engine and then it's tweaked clone is something that wouldn't be allowed by TCEC rules, but apparently it it going to be.
For once I have to agree, that's pathetic and ridiculous at the same time.
But that was already clear from the first cryptic announcements though.
The most work done was to find a new name...
ASilverheute um 06:08 Uhr
It is a 100% unique NN built entirely from human games, and only human games, from Megabase 2018. No self-play, or anything else. It is 10x128 for any curious.
That was the philosophy behind it.

Armstrongheute um 06:09 Uhr
Sorry for my naive question . Not gone through the video . If Deus in agreement with the open source policies of Leela ?

ASilverheute um 06:09 Uhr
What open source policies? I am not selling it.
Now you can start with dozens of Brainfish clones (with different self constructed 'cerebellum' books) and dozens of LeelaChess clones with
self-trained NNs. Brave new world.
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