Wow! That is fast! Most a-b engines will find it within a millisecond, it is obvious that tactics is not one of Leela's strong points.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:39 pmFinds it in 6 seconds:Spliffjiffer wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:30 pm [d]8/8/8/3qk3/3p4/R1PK4/2PN4/8 w - - 0 1
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FEN: 8/8/8/3qk3/3p4/R1PK4/2PN4/8 w - - 0 1 Lc0 ID 25 (TEST): 1/2 00:00,010 2 200 -1,57 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 1/3 00:00,011 3 272 -0,72 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 1/4 00:00,012 6 500 0,00 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 1/5 00:00,013 15 1k -0,07 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ 1/6 00:00,015 33 2k -0,10 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ Kf5 1/7 00:00,017 65 4k -0,01 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ Kd5 4.c4+ 1/8 00:00,018 97 5k +0,13 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 3.Nf3+ Kd6 4.Rd3+ Kc5 1/9 00:00,020 148 7k +0,03 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 3.Nf3+ Kd6 4.Rd3+ Kc5 5.Ke3 1/9 00:00,022 187 9k +0,68 1.c4 Qc5 2.Ra8 Qb4 3.Nf3+ Kf4 4.Nxd4 1/10 00:00,026 282 11k +0,73 1.c4 Qc5 2.Ra8 Qb4 3.Nf3+ Kf4 4.Nxd4 Qb1 1/11 00:00,035 504 14k +0,38 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kd6 3.Ne4+ Kc7 4.Rf5 Qh3+ 1/12 00:00,076 2k 21k +0,16 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kf4 3.c5 Qd5 4.Nb3 Ke5 5.c6 Kd6 1/13 00:00,099 2k 23k +0,01 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kf4 3.c5 Qg6+ 4.Kxd4 Qxc2 5.Nc4 Qe4+ 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 1/13 00:00,111 3k 24k +0,20 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ 1/14 00:00,123 3k 24k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ 1/15 00:00,143 4k 25k +0,23 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 1/16 00:00,178 5k 27k +0,22 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ 1/17 00:00,223 6k 29k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 1/19 00:00,396 13k 32k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 1/20 00:00,776 28k 36k +0,30 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/20 00:00,859 31k 36k +0,31 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/21 00:01,094 41k 37k +0,35 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/22 00:02,602 103k 39k +0,43 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Kf4 6.Nb3 Qe1+ 7.Kc4 Qe2+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 9.Kb2 Qb4 10.Ra8 Ke4 2/23 00:04,326 185k 43k +0,49 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Qe1+ 5.Kb3 Qd1 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 7.Kb3 Qb1+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 2/29 00:05,777 274k 47k +0,49 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Qe1+ 5.Kb3 Qd1 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 7.Kb3 Qb1+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 2/29 00:06,320 310k 49k +20,27 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 2/31 00:07,178 367k 51k +20,74 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 2/32 00:07,680 400k 52k +20,99 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 14.Kd5 2/32 00:12,684 735k 58k +22,38 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Nd2 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.c5+ Kc6 11.Nc4 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.c6+ Kc7 2/32 00:17,688 1.073k 61k +23,32 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 2/33 00:19,591 1.206k 62k +23,72 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 15.Nb5 2/34 00:19,828 1.223k 62k +23,77 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 15.Nb5 2/34 00:22,167 1.382k 62k +24,16 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.Kd5 Kb4 9.c4 Kc3 10.c5 Kb4 11.c6 Kb5 12.c7 Kb6 13.c8Q Ka7 14.Nc2 Kb6 15.Qb8+ Ka6 16.Kc5 Ka5 17.Qa7+
will Leela ever solve this ?
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
"Most" a-b engines will still lose to Leela (with the exception of the very top, for now...), so who cares about the time it takesJoost Buijs wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:32 pmWow! That is fast! Most a-b engines will find it within a millisecond, it is obvious that tactics is not one of Leela's strong points.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:39 pmFinds it in 6 seconds:Spliffjiffer wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:30 pm [d]8/8/8/3qk3/3p4/R1PK4/2PN4/8 w - - 0 1
Ra5, game over
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FEN: 8/8/8/3qk3/3p4/R1PK4/2PN4/8 w - - 0 1 Lc0 ID 25 (TEST): 1/2 00:00,010 2 200 -1,57 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 1/3 00:00,011 3 272 -0,72 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 1/4 00:00,012 6 500 0,00 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 1/5 00:00,013 15 1k -0,07 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ 1/6 00:00,015 33 2k -0,10 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ Kf5 1/7 00:00,017 65 4k -0,01 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ Kd5 4.c4+ 1/8 00:00,018 97 5k +0,13 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 3.Nf3+ Kd6 4.Rd3+ Kc5 1/9 00:00,020 148 7k +0,03 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 3.Nf3+ Kd6 4.Rd3+ Kc5 5.Ke3 1/9 00:00,022 187 9k +0,68 1.c4 Qc5 2.Ra8 Qb4 3.Nf3+ Kf4 4.Nxd4 1/10 00:00,026 282 11k +0,73 1.c4 Qc5 2.Ra8 Qb4 3.Nf3+ Kf4 4.Nxd4 Qb1 1/11 00:00,035 504 14k +0,38 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kd6 3.Ne4+ Kc7 4.Rf5 Qh3+ 1/12 00:00,076 2k 21k +0,16 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kf4 3.c5 Qd5 4.Nb3 Ke5 5.c6 Kd6 1/13 00:00,099 2k 23k +0,01 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kf4 3.c5 Qg6+ 4.Kxd4 Qxc2 5.Nc4 Qe4+ 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 1/13 00:00,111 3k 24k +0,20 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ 1/14 00:00,123 3k 24k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ 1/15 00:00,143 4k 25k +0,23 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 1/16 00:00,178 5k 27k +0,22 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ 1/17 00:00,223 6k 29k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 1/19 00:00,396 13k 32k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 1/20 00:00,776 28k 36k +0,30 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/20 00:00,859 31k 36k +0,31 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/21 00:01,094 41k 37k +0,35 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/22 00:02,602 103k 39k +0,43 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Kf4 6.Nb3 Qe1+ 7.Kc4 Qe2+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 9.Kb2 Qb4 10.Ra8 Ke4 2/23 00:04,326 185k 43k +0,49 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Qe1+ 5.Kb3 Qd1 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 7.Kb3 Qb1+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 2/29 00:05,777 274k 47k +0,49 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Qe1+ 5.Kb3 Qd1 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 7.Kb3 Qb1+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 2/29 00:06,320 310k 49k +20,27 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 2/31 00:07,178 367k 51k +20,74 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 2/32 00:07,680 400k 52k +20,99 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 14.Kd5 2/32 00:12,684 735k 58k +22,38 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Nd2 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.c5+ Kc6 11.Nc4 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.c6+ Kc7 2/32 00:17,688 1.073k 61k +23,32 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 2/33 00:19,591 1.206k 62k +23,72 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 15.Nb5 2/34 00:19,828 1.223k 62k +23,77 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 15.Nb5 2/34 00:22,167 1.382k 62k +24,16 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.Kd5 Kb4 9.c4 Kc3 10.c5 Kb4 11.c6 Kb5 12.c7 Kb6 13.c8Q Ka7 14.Nc2 Kb6 15.Qb8+ Ka6 16.Kc5 Ka5 17.Qa7+
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
It must be nice living in la-la landCMCanavessi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:29 pm"Most" a-b engines will still lose to Leela (with the exception of the very top, for now...), so who cares about the time it takesJoost Buijs wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:32 pmWow! That is fast! Most a-b engines will find it within a millisecond, it is obvious that tactics is not one of Leela's strong points.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:39 pm
Finds it in 6 seconds:
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FEN: 8/8/8/3qk3/3p4/R1PK4/2PN4/8 w - - 0 1 Lc0 ID 25 (TEST): 1/2 00:00,010 2 200 -1,57 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 1/3 00:00,011 3 272 -0,72 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 1/4 00:00,012 6 500 0,00 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 1/5 00:00,013 15 1k -0,07 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ 1/6 00:00,015 33 2k -0,10 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ Kf5 1/7 00:00,017 65 4k -0,01 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ Kd5 4.c4+ 1/8 00:00,018 97 5k +0,13 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 3.Nf3+ Kd6 4.Rd3+ Kc5 1/9 00:00,020 148 7k +0,03 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 3.Nf3+ Kd6 4.Rd3+ Kc5 5.Ke3 1/9 00:00,022 187 9k +0,68 1.c4 Qc5 2.Ra8 Qb4 3.Nf3+ Kf4 4.Nxd4 1/10 00:00,026 282 11k +0,73 1.c4 Qc5 2.Ra8 Qb4 3.Nf3+ Kf4 4.Nxd4 Qb1 1/11 00:00,035 504 14k +0,38 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kd6 3.Ne4+ Kc7 4.Rf5 Qh3+ 1/12 00:00,076 2k 21k +0,16 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kf4 3.c5 Qd5 4.Nb3 Ke5 5.c6 Kd6 1/13 00:00,099 2k 23k +0,01 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kf4 3.c5 Qg6+ 4.Kxd4 Qxc2 5.Nc4 Qe4+ 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 1/13 00:00,111 3k 24k +0,20 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ 1/14 00:00,123 3k 24k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ 1/15 00:00,143 4k 25k +0,23 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 1/16 00:00,178 5k 27k +0,22 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ 1/17 00:00,223 6k 29k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 1/19 00:00,396 13k 32k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 1/20 00:00,776 28k 36k +0,30 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/20 00:00,859 31k 36k +0,31 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/21 00:01,094 41k 37k +0,35 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/22 00:02,602 103k 39k +0,43 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Kf4 6.Nb3 Qe1+ 7.Kc4 Qe2+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 9.Kb2 Qb4 10.Ra8 Ke4 2/23 00:04,326 185k 43k +0,49 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Qe1+ 5.Kb3 Qd1 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 7.Kb3 Qb1+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 2/29 00:05,777 274k 47k +0,49 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Qe1+ 5.Kb3 Qd1 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 7.Kb3 Qb1+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 2/29 00:06,320 310k 49k +20,27 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 2/31 00:07,178 367k 51k +20,74 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 2/32 00:07,680 400k 52k +20,99 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 14.Kd5 2/32 00:12,684 735k 58k +22,38 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Nd2 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.c5+ Kc6 11.Nc4 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.c6+ Kc7 2/32 00:17,688 1.073k 61k +23,32 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 2/33 00:19,591 1.206k 62k +23,72 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 15.Nb5 2/34 00:19,828 1.223k 62k +23,77 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 15.Nb5 2/34 00:22,167 1.382k 62k +24,16 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.Kd5 Kb4 9.c4 Kc3 10.c5 Kb4 11.c6 Kb5 12.c7 Kb6 13.c8Q Ka7 14.Nc2 Kb6 15.Qb8+ Ka6 16.Kc5 Ka5 17.Qa7+
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
Click my signature, if you dare... and get a cold shower of something called "reality".glennsamuel32 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:47 pmIt must be nice living in la-la landCMCanavessi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:29 pm"Most" a-b engines will still lose to Leela (with the exception of the very top, for now...), so who cares about the time it takesJoost Buijs wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:32 pm
Wow! That is fast! Most a-b engines will find it within a millisecond, it is obvious that tactics is not one of Leela's strong points.
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
Mind elaborating on the game conditions ?CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:48 pmClick my signature, if you dare... and get a cold shower of something called "reality".glennsamuel32 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:47 pmIt must be nice living in la-la landCMCanavessi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:29 pm
"Most" a-b engines will still lose to Leela (with the exception of the very top, for now...), so who cares about the time it takes
Instead of "reality", I would call this a "Blast-From-The-Past" by playing against stockfish 5
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
True, because "most" a-b engines can easily beat Stockfish 5 (3244 ccrl)...glennsamuel32 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:58 pmMind elaborating on the game conditions ?CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:48 pmClick my signature, if you dare... and get a cold shower of something called "reality".
More than "reality", I would call this a "Blast-From-The-Past" by playing against stockfish 5
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
Sorry but I can't comprehend your evasive answers.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:01 pmTrue, because "most" a-b engines can easily beat Stockfish 5 (3244 ccrl)...glennsamuel32 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:58 pmMind elaborating on the game conditions ?CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:48 pm
Click my signature, if you dare... and get a cold shower of something called "reality".
More than "reality", I would call this a "Blast-From-The-Past" by playing against stockfish 5
What are the game conditions and why aren't you using SF 9 ?
Also, I see you had Scorpio using 1 thread in another test -- any reason for that ?
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
6 seconds is irrelevant, it is actually 310 000 playouts which is a lot. Most AB engines find it in QS within 1000 nodes evaluated.Joost Buijs wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:32 pmWow! That is fast! Most a-b engines will find it within a millisecond, it is obvious that tactics is not one of Leela's strong points.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:39 pmFinds it in 6 seconds:Spliffjiffer wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 3:30 pm [d]8/8/8/3qk3/3p4/R1PK4/2PN4/8 w - - 0 1
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FEN: 8/8/8/3qk3/3p4/R1PK4/2PN4/8 w - - 0 1 Lc0 ID 25 (TEST): 1/2 00:00,010 2 200 -1,57 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 1/3 00:00,011 3 272 -0,72 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 1/4 00:00,012 6 500 0,00 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 1/5 00:00,013 15 1k -0,07 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ 1/6 00:00,015 33 2k -0,10 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ Kf5 1/7 00:00,017 65 4k -0,01 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qc5 3.Re3+ Kd5 4.c4+ 1/8 00:00,018 97 5k +0,13 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 3.Nf3+ Kd6 4.Rd3+ Kc5 1/9 00:00,020 148 7k +0,03 1.cxd4+ Qxd4+ 2.Ke2 Qg4+ 3.Nf3+ Kd6 4.Rd3+ Kc5 5.Ke3 1/9 00:00,022 187 9k +0,68 1.c4 Qc5 2.Ra8 Qb4 3.Nf3+ Kf4 4.Nxd4 1/10 00:00,026 282 11k +0,73 1.c4 Qc5 2.Ra8 Qb4 3.Nf3+ Kf4 4.Nxd4 Qb1 1/11 00:00,035 504 14k +0,38 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kd6 3.Ne4+ Kc7 4.Rf5 Qh3+ 1/12 00:00,076 2k 21k +0,16 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kf4 3.c5 Qd5 4.Nb3 Ke5 5.c6 Kd6 1/13 00:00,099 2k 23k +0,01 1.c4 Qg2 2.Ra5+ Kf4 3.c5 Qg6+ 4.Kxd4 Qxc2 5.Nc4 Qe4+ 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 1/13 00:00,111 3k 24k +0,20 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ 1/14 00:00,123 3k 24k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ 1/15 00:00,143 4k 25k +0,23 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 1/16 00:00,178 5k 27k +0,22 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ 1/17 00:00,223 6k 29k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 1/19 00:00,396 13k 32k +0,25 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qd5 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Ke3 6.Nc4+ Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 1/20 00:00,776 28k 36k +0,30 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/20 00:00,859 31k 36k +0,31 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/21 00:01,094 41k 37k +0,35 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kd3 Qf3+ 5.Kd2 Qd5 6.Kc3 Ke4 7.Nd2+ Ke3 8.Nc4+ Ke4 9.Nd2+ Ke3 10.Nc4+ Kf4 2/22 00:02,602 103k 39k +0,43 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Ke4 5.Nd2+ Kf4 6.Nb3 Qe1+ 7.Kc4 Qe2+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 9.Kb2 Qb4 10.Ra8 Ke4 2/23 00:04,326 185k 43k +0,49 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Qe1+ 5.Kb3 Qd1 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 7.Kb3 Qb1+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 2/29 00:05,777 274k 47k +0,49 1.Nc4+ Kf4 2.cxd4 Qf3+ 3.Kd2 Qf2+ 4.Kc3 Qe1+ 5.Kb3 Qd1 6.Kc3 Qe1+ 7.Kb3 Qb1+ 8.Kc3 Qe1+ 2/29 00:06,320 310k 49k +20,27 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 2/31 00:07,178 367k 51k +20,74 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 2/32 00:07,680 400k 52k +20,99 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.c4 Kxb3 8.c5 Kb4 9.c6 Kb5 10.c7 Kc6 11.c8Q+ Kd6 12.Qb8+ Kc6 13.Kc4 Kd7 14.Kd5 2/32 00:12,684 735k 58k +22,38 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Nd2 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.c5+ Kc6 11.Nc4 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.c6+ Kc7 2/32 00:17,688 1.073k 61k +23,32 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 2/33 00:19,591 1.206k 62k +23,72 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 15.Nb5 2/34 00:19,828 1.223k 62k +23,77 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.c3 Kc6 9.c4 Kd6 10.Nb3 Kc6 11.c5 Kc7 12.Kd5 Kd7 13.Nd4 Kc7 14.c6 Kc8 15.Nb5 2/34 00:22,167 1.382k 62k +24,16 1.Ra5 Qxa5 2.Nc4+ Kd5 3.Nxa5 dxc3 4.Kxc3 Kc5 5.Nb3+ Kb5 6.Kd4 Kb4 7.Na1 Kb5 8.Kd5 Kb4 9.c4 Kc3 10.c5 Kb4 11.c6 Kb5 12.c7 Kb6 13.c8Q Ka7 14.Nc2 Kb6 15.Qb8+ Ka6 16.Kc5 Ka5 17.Qa7+
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
Indeed, Stockfish 5 is doing like 1 to 1.5 million n/s which is very slow, a couple of days ago I even saw ~100 kn/s If you really want to compare strength you have to let Leela face Stockfish 9 at all 8 cores, or even better.glennsamuel32 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:06 pmSorry but I can't comprehend your evasive answers.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:01 pmTrue, because "most" a-b engines can easily beat Stockfish 5 (3244 ccrl)...glennsamuel32 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:58 pm
Mind elaborating on the game conditions ?
More than "reality", I would call this a "Blast-From-The-Past" by playing against stockfish 5
What are the game conditions and why aren't you using SF 9 ?
Also, I see you had Scorpio using 1 thread in another test -- any reason for that ?
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Re: will Leela ever solve this ?
No evasive nothing. TC is 30 min + 10 sec, 2 move book (with reverse games), 1 thread for SF 5, 1 thread for Lc0, 4gb hash for SF, ponder off, no TBs.glennsamuel32 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:06 pmSorry but I can't comprehend your evasive answers.CMCanavessi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 3:01 pmTrue, because "most" a-b engines can easily beat Stockfish 5 (3244 ccrl)...glennsamuel32 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 2:58 pm
Mind elaborating on the game conditions ?
More than "reality", I would call this a "Blast-From-The-Past" by playing against stockfish 5
What are the game conditions and why aren't you using SF 9 ?
Also, I see you had Scorpio using 1 thread in another test -- any reason for that ?
I'm using SF 5 because that's the purpose of this series in the stream, Leela has been beating the "yearly CCRL champions", Rybka 4, Houdini 1.5a, etc... right now at year 2014. If she can beat SF 5 in the 10-game match, we'll proceed to 2015+
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