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Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:23 pm
by JJJ
All in the title. Is it already too late to beat Leela as a human ? Seems the leela bot on lichess loose only against others bot...

Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:15 pm
by Leo
Pablo and ARB might be able to.

Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:01 pm
by AdminX
I think Magnus Carlsen could, as long as he could make it to the endgame. (LTC of course) 8-)

Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:40 pm
by JJJ
Leo wrote:Pablo and ARB might be able to.
Funny one !

Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:53 pm
by whereagles
I managed to scrap a few games on easy the other day. It beat me like 10-to-2 in the end though.

Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:39 pm
by Leto
The version that destroyed GM Tang was old and I imagine even Carlsen would have a tough time beating that version in a match. The newest versions no human would have a chance.

Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:51 pm
by AdminX
Leto wrote:The version that destroyed GM Tang was old and I imagine even Carlsen would have a tough time beating that version in a match. The newest versions no human would have a chance.
I think the strategy would be to do something that is counterintuitive for humans versus computers. I would recommend playing something tactical, like the King's Gambit with Leela while you still can. Get her into a tactical fight. We know she is weak in tactics and her endgame can improve a bit more, so take her to those places and beat her with experience that she still does not possess.

Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:27 am
by Geonerd
JJJ wrote:All in the title. Is it already too late to beat Leela as a human ? Seems the leela bot on lichess loose only against others bot...
I'd love to see Chess24 promote and host a short match with Svidler!

Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:14 pm
by whereagles
well, just tried ID205 and results were... not very encouraging :lol:

Re: Can a human still defeat Leela ?

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:38 pm
by JJJ
I think it's now too late ! But the interesting things is how Leela would win against super GM with his agressive double edge style.