Lichess temp ban for flaggers.

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Lichess temp ban for flaggers.

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Just noticed a new feature for online chess that Lichess is doing now. When your opponent deliberately lets their time run out when faced with a completely lost position will suffer a temporary ban. This is good news for online players not sure if any other server has done this but kudos to Lichess. Also I'm not sure what length of time the ban is.
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chessmobile wrote:Just noticed a new feature for online chess that Lichess is doing now. When your opponent deliberately lets their time run out when faced with a completely lost position will suffer a temporary ban. This is good news for online players not sure if any other server has done this but kudos to Lichess. Also I'm not sure what length of time the ban is.
Does it also work for the disconnect trick?
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chessmobile wrote:When your opponent deliberately lets their time run out when faced with a completely lost position
I've never understood why people don't just click the "resign" button, provided that there is one.
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chessmobile wrote:Just noticed a new feature for online chess that Lichess is doing now. When your opponent deliberately lets their time run out when faced with a completely lost position will suffer a temporary ban.
This is unsportsmanlike behavior for sure(and a very annoying one) but technically where is any rule's violation? I mean, it is completely inside the normal rules of play.
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There also seem some problems with this feature. I believe LiChess uses the rule that if you let more than 15% of the game time expire before you forfeit, you get the ban. But in bullet games (2 min) that amounts to just 18 sec, and people are regularly baffled by an opponent move for more time than that and flag. After which they get banned...
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George Tsavdaris wrote:
chessmobile wrote:Just noticed a new feature for online chess that Lichess is doing now. When your opponent deliberately lets their time run out when faced with a completely lost position will suffer a temporary ban.
This is unsportsmanlike behavior for sure(and a very annoying one) but technically where is any rule's violation? I mean, it is completely inside the normal rules of play.
Lichess is not part of FIDE, so it can make up its own rules.

But what happens online also happens OTB, so there is:
FIDE competition rules wrote:9.3 A player who does not wish to continue a game and leaves without resigning or notifying the arbiter is discourteous. He may be penalised, at the discretion of the CA, for poor sportsmanship (E.I.01A.12.9)
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What also happens is that they don't move anymore until one second before their time is up. So you can't do something else in between.
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I've never understood why people don't just click the "resign" button, provided that there is one.
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They let time run out because sometimes the opponent (e.g. me!!) doesn't want to wait for flagging and resigns first. That's the point.
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chessmobile wrote:Just noticed a new feature for online chess that Lichess is doing now. When your opponent deliberately lets their time run out when faced with a completely lost position will suffer a temporary ban. This is good news for online players not sure if any other server has done this but kudos to Lichess. Also I'm not sure what length of time the ban is.
I love it. I see people do this to me all the time. Instead of just resigning like a man they let the time run out thinking in their mind that one they are annoying you and two that in some way it is less of a loss that just resigning.

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