LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

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Werewolf
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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

Post by Werewolf »

duncan wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:18 pm
duncan wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:57 am
so elo 2552 on april 14th

now april 26 it is elo 2803. so a 251 elo gain in 12 days and 21 points a day gain. (including regression). To catch stockfish at 3563, another 760 points needed which should take about 5 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of June. just maybe.
3rd june 'only' 3121 . so a 318 gain in 5 weeks so 9 points a day gain. To catch stockfish at 3563, another 442 points needed which should take about 7 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of august. just maybe.
Everyone else here sees progress, I just see stalling. There's no way it'll catch SF anytime soon IMO.
duncan
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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

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Werewolf wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:33 pm
duncan wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:18 pm
duncan wrote: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:57 am
so elo 2552 on april 14th

now april 26 it is elo 2803. so a 251 elo gain in 12 days and 21 points a day gain. (including regression). To catch stockfish at 3563, another 760 points needed which should take about 5 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of June. just maybe.
3rd june 'only' 3121 . so a 318 gain in 5 weeks so 9 points a day gain. To catch stockfish at 3563, another 442 points needed which should take about 7 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of august. just maybe.
Everyone else here sees progress, I just see stalling. There's no way it'll catch SF anytime soon IMO.
9 points a day is stalling. when has an alpha-beta program ever done that for even a week?
Werewolf
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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

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duncan wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:35 pm
Werewolf wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:33 pm
duncan wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:18 pm

3rd june 'only' 3121 . so a 318 gain in 5 weeks so 9 points a day gain. To catch stockfish at 3563, another 442 points needed which should take about 7 weeks unless it slows down. so beginning of august. just maybe.
Everyone else here sees progress, I just see stalling. There's no way it'll catch SF anytime soon IMO.
9 points a day is stalling. when has an alpha-beta program ever done that for even a week?
9 elo a day is incredible, granted. But I suppose the issue is whether it continues or if there is a trend towards no improvement.
yanquis1972
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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

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why is that an issue if the trend projects to a 3600 elo engine within, say, a year?
Milton
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Re: LCZero: Progress and Scaling. Relation to CCRL Elo

Post by Milton »

For the purposes of not starting another LCzero thread, I am posing my question here.

Can someone explain to me why LCzero refuses to use its time resource? I am using the GPU version of Leela. I have a Nvidea 1080 video card. I am using the Fritz 16 GUI. No matter how much time I allow LCzero in the GUI, Leela moves instantly, essentially playing bullet chess. Is there a setting I can change in the engine parameters which will cause it think longer? Thanks.