chess22k 1.8 released

[Graham Banks]

Very strong Java engine. It appears to be stronger than Carballo. Well done!

[pgn][Event "The Rodent And The Wasp"]
[Site "ChessGUI3"]
[Date "2018.03.06"]
[Round "5.1"]
[White "Hiarcs 14"]
[Black "chess22k 1.8 64-bit"]
[Result "0-1"]
[Time "9:48:46 a.m."]
[ECO "C58"]
[Opening "Polerio Defense, Two Knights; C58"]
[TimeControl "40/1500:40/1500:40/1500"]
[PlyCount "155"]
[Number "41"]
[Termination "GUI adjudication"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
[Variant "normal"]

{ i5 Quad }
1.e4 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]} e5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]}
2.Nf3 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]} Nc6 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]}
3.Bc4 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]}
4.Ng5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]} d5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]}
5.exd5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]} Na5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]}
6.Bb5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]} c6 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]}
7.dxc6 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]} bxc6 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]}
8.Bd3 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 00:00:00]} Nd5 {[%eval -66,22] [%emt 00:01:03]}
9.h4 {(Ne4) [%eval 4,17] [%emt 00:00:39]} Be7 {(Nf4) [%eval -24,20] [%emt 00:00:44]}
10.g3 {(Nc3) [%eval -11,17] [%emt 00:01:00]} h6 {(f5) [%eval 0,23] [%emt 00:00:47]}
11.Qh5 {(Qh5) [%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:00:41]} O-O {(O-O) [%eval 54,22] [%emt 00:00:22]}
12.Bh7 {(Bh7) [%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:00:40]} Kh8 {(Kh8) [%eval 8,23] [%emt 00:00:27]}
13.Bd3 {(Bd3) [%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:00:34]} Qe8 {(Kg8) [%eval 28,23] [%emt 00:00:43]}
14.Nc3 {(Nc3) [%eval -23,18] [%emt 00:01:08]} Nf6 {(Bd7) [%eval 21,23] [%emt 00:01:29]}
15.Qe2 {(Qe2) [%eval 9,18] [%emt 00:00:43]} Bg4 {(Bb7) [%eval -15,22] [%emt 00:00:23]}
16.f3 {(f3) [%eval 40,19] [%emt 00:00:46]} Bd7 {(Bd7) [%eval 20,21] [%emt 00:00:36]}
17.Qxe5 {(Qxe5) [%eval 60,19] [%emt 00:00:26]} c5 {(c5) [%eval -19,21] [%emt 00:00:27]}
18.Kd1 {(Kd1) [%eval 38,18] [%emt 00:00:41]} Nc6 {(Nc6) [%eval -2,22] [%emt 00:00:24]}
19.Qe3 {(Qe3) [%eval 33,18] [%emt 00:00:49]} Nd4 {(Nd4) [%eval -17,23] [%emt 00:00:41]}
20.Nge4 {(Nge4) [%eval 34,18] [%emt 00:00:30]} Nxe4 {(Nxe4) [%eval -20,22] [%emt 00:00:25]}
21.Bxe4 {(Bxe4) [%eval 29,19] [%emt 00:00:36]} Bc6 {(Rd8) [%eval 0,22] [%emt 00:00:23]}
22.g4 {(Re1) [%eval 46,18] [%emt 00:00:44]} f5 {(f5) [%eval 18,25] [%emt 00:00:48]}
23.Bxc6 {(Bxc6) [%eval 10,19] [%emt 00:00:46]} Qxc6 {(Qxc6) [%eval 17,25] [%emt 00:00:45]}
24.g5 {(g5) [%eval 8,20] [%emt 00:00:46]} Rae8 {(hxg5) [%eval 37,24] [%emt 00:01:06]}
25.Qf2 {(Qf2) [%eval 2,19] [%emt 00:01:05]} hxg5 {(hxg5) [%eval 29,23] [%emt 00:00:53]}
26.hxg5 {(hxg5) [%eval -13,19] [%emt 00:00:40]} Kg8 {(Kg8) [%eval 51,23] [%emt 00:00:23]}
27.d3 {(d3) [%eval 0,20] [%emt 00:00:52]} Qxf3 {(Qxf3) [%eval 12,23] [%emt 00:00:30]}
28.Qxf3 {(Qxf3) [%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:00:11]} Nxf3 {(Nxf3) [%eval 30,24] [%emt 00:01:00]}
29.Rf1 {(Rb1) [%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:00:48]} Nxg5 {(Nxg5) [%eval 51,27] [%emt 00:01:36]}
30.Nb5 {(Nb5) [%eval 0,22] [%emt 00:00:48]} Ne6 {(Nh3) [%eval 47,26] [%emt 00:00:36]}
31.Nxa7 {(Nxa7) [%eval -3,19] [%emt 00:00:34]} f4 {(g5) [%eval 47,25] [%emt 00:01:30]}
32.c3 {(Nc6) [%eval -26,21] [%emt 00:01:37]} g5 {(g5) [%eval 48,22] [%emt 00:00:41]}
33.Kc2 {(Nb5) [%eval -4,21] [%emt 00:00:42]} Rf5 {(g4) [%eval 30,22] [%emt 00:00:43]}
34.Bd2 {(Bd2) [%eval 0,20] [%emt 00:00:55]} g4 {(Kf7) [%eval 30,23] [%emt 00:00:39]}
35.Rg1 {(Rg1) [%eval 7,20] [%emt 00:00:46]} g3 {(g3) [%eval 30,23] [%emt 00:01:00]}
36.Raf1 {(Raf1) [%eval 0,20] [%emt 00:00:45]} Bg5 {(c4) [%eval 30,22] [%emt 00:00:47]}
37.Nb5 {(Nb5) [%eval 12,20] [%emt 00:00:48]} Rd8 {(Rd8) [%eval 50,22] [%emt 00:00:30]}
38.Na3 {(a4) [%eval 39,21] [%emt 00:00:38]} Kg7 {(Rfd5) [%eval 34,23] [%emt 00:00:41]}
39.Nc4 {(Nc4) [%eval 30,21] [%emt 00:00:45]} Kf6 {(Rfd5) [%eval 30,22] [%emt 00:00:21]}
40.Be1 {(Rf3) [%eval 21,20] [%emt 00:01:12]} Bh4 {[%eval 30,25] [%emt 00:01:03]}
41.Nd2 {(Nd2) [%eval 23,19] [%emt 00:00:32]} Kg6 {(Rh8) [%eval 30,24] [%emt 00:00:24]}
42.Nf3 {(Ne4) [%eval 11,19] [%emt 00:00:35]} Bg5 {(Rh8) [%eval 30,26] [%emt 00:00:39]}
43.a4 {(Nxg5) [%eval 26,19] [%emt 00:00:36]} Ra8 {(Bf6) [%eval 20,22] [%emt 00:00:48]}
44.b3 {(d4) [%eval 19,22] [%emt 00:00:56]} Rd8 {(Bf6) [%eval 20,23] [%emt 00:00:47]}
45.Bd2 {(Bd2) [%eval 27,20] [%emt 00:00:41]} Bf6 {(Bf6) [%eval 30,23] [%emt 00:00:28]}
46.Re1 {(Bxf4) [%eval 3,21] [%emt 00:01:21]} Rd6 {(Kf7) [%eval 20,21] [%emt 00:00:40]}
47.Re4 {(Bxf4) [%eval 25,19] [%emt 00:00:29]} Kh5 {(Kh5) [%eval 11,24] [%emt 00:00:40]}
48.Be1 {(Be1) [%eval 22,19] [%emt 00:00:24]} Kh6 {(Kg6) [%eval 11,23] [%emt 00:00:55]}
49.Rg2 {(Bd2) [%eval 48,20] [%emt 00:00:31]} Kg6 {(Kh5) [%eval 20,26] [%emt 00:01:12]}
50.Rge2 {(Rge2) [%eval 47,22] [%emt 00:00:52]} Nc7 {(Nc7) [%eval 14,25] [%emt 00:00:28]}
51.Bd2 {(Rg2) [%eval 35,22] [%emt 00:00:50]} Nd5 {(Nd5) [%eval 99,27] [%emt 00:00:43]}
52.c4 {(c4) [%eval 35,22] [%emt 00:00:49]} Nb4 {(Nb4) [%eval 107,28] [%emt 00:00:25]}
53.Bxb4 {(Bxb4) [%eval 37,23] [%emt 00:00:28]} cxb4 {(cxb4) [%eval 90,28] [%emt 00:00:51]}
54.d4 {(d4) [%eval 37,24] [%emt 00:00:32]} Kh5 {(Kh5) [%eval 90,27] [%emt 00:00:52]}
55.Rd2 {(Rd2) [%eval 37,23] [%emt 00:00:32]} Kg4 {(Kg4) [%eval 93,26] [%emt 00:00:58]}
56.Rd3 {(Rd3) [%eval 15,21] [%emt 00:00:32]} Rh5 {(Rh5) [%eval 113,25] [%emt 00:00:17]}
57.Re1 {(d5) [%eval 0,21] [%emt 00:01:26]} Rd7 {(Rd7) [%eval 173,21] [%emt 00:00:34]}
58.Re6 {(Re6) [%eval -87,21] [%emt 00:02:35]} Rf7 {(Kf5) [%eval 159,24] [%emt 00:00:49]}
59.c5 {(c5) [%eval -55,20] [%emt 00:01:20]} Rh1 {(Rh3) [%eval 159,23] [%emt 00:00:19]}
60.c6 {(Re2) [%eval -55,19] [%emt 00:01:03]} Rf1 {(Rf1) [%eval 317,23] [%emt 00:00:37]}
61.Ne1 {(Ne1) [%eval -225,20] [%emt 00:00:38]} f3 {(f3) [%eval 277,22] [%emt 00:00:50]}
62.Re4 {(Re4) [%eval -226,19] [%emt 00:00:15]} Kf5 {(Kf5) [%eval 330,22] [%emt 00:00:36]}
63.Re8 {(Nxf3) [%eval -245,21] [%emt 00:00:56]} f2 {(f2) [%eval 363,22] [%emt 00:00:41]}
64.Rf3 {(Rf3) [%eval -267,21] [%emt 00:00:22]} Kg4 {(Kg4) [%eval 383,21] [%emt 00:00:23]}
65.Re4 {(Re4) [%eval -277,20] [%emt 00:00:14]} Kh5 {(Kh5) [%eval 400,21] [%emt 00:00:41]}
66.Nd3 {(Nd3) [%eval -322,21] [%emt 00:01:06]} g2 {(g2) [%eval 447,21] [%emt 00:00:38]}
67.Rh3 {(Rh3) [%eval -322,20] [%emt 00:00:17]} Kg6 {(Kg6) [%eval 447,20] [%emt 00:00:47]}
68.Rg4 {(Rg3) [%eval -321,20] [%emt 00:00:17]} Kf5 {(Kf5) [%eval 392,20] [%emt 00:01:00]}
69.Rxg2 {(Rxg2) [%eval -323,18] [%emt 00:00:17]} Rc1 {(Rc1) [%eval 433,22] [%emt 00:00:18]}
70.Nxc1 {(Nxc1) [%eval -321,19] [%emt 00:00:17]} f1=Q {[%eval 433,22] [%emt 00:00:43]}
71.Rhh2 {(Rhh2) [%eval -331,20] [%emt 00:01:00]} Ke6 {(Ke6) [%eval 503,20] [%emt 00:00:47]}
72.Rf2 {(Rf2) [%eval -331,19] [%emt 00:00:12]} Qa6 {(Qa6) [%eval 506,19] [%emt 00:00:21]}
73.Re2 {(Nd3) [%eval -328,19] [%emt 00:00:12]} Kd6 {(Kd6) [%eval 494,20] [%emt 00:00:17]}
74.Nd3 {(d5) [%eval -440,19] [%emt 00:00:48]} Qxc6 {(Qxc6) [%eval 565,22] [%emt 00:00:31]}
75.Nc5 {(Nc5) [%eval -525,19] [%emt 00:00:15]} Qd5 {(Qd5) [%eval 585,22] [%emt 00:00:39]}
76.Re6 {(Re6) [%eval -539,18] [%emt 00:00:11]} Kc7 {(Kc7) [%eval 604,21] [%emt 00:00:28]}
77.Re4 {(Re4) [%eval -581,18] [%emt 00:00:12]} Kb6 {(Be7) [%eval 708,23] [%emt 00:00:38]}
78.Re6 {(Re6) [%eval -494,18] [%emt 00:00:07]}
0-1[/pgn]

[tpoppins]

I am also using Cute Chess myself.

I'm sorry to report that v1.8 has a lot of disconnects under the Cute Chess GUI. In the ongoing 40/40 gauntlet 35 games out of about 500 have been terminated this way. Here are a couple of examples:

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[Event "chess22k 1.8 64-bit 40/40 Gauntlet"]
[Site "Dual X5670"]
[Date "2018.03.15"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Arasan 20.4.1 64-bit"]
[Black "chess22k 1.8 64-bit"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A40"]
[GameEndTime "2018-03-15T08:24:13.453 Eastern Daylight Time"]
[GameStartTime "2018-03-15T07:58:51.550 Eastern Daylight Time"]
[Opening "Queen's pawn"]
[PlyCount "49"]
[Termination "abandoned"]
[TimeControl "40/1260"]

1. d4 {book} e6 {book} 2. e4 {book} d5 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Bb4 {book}
4. Bd3 {book} c5 {book} 5. a3 {book} Bxc3+ {book} 6. bxc3 {book} c4 {book}
7. Be2 {book} Qa5 {book} 8. Bd2 {+0.15/27 38s} Nf6 {+0.31/26 40s}
9. e5 {+0.13/29 38s} Ne4 {+0.35/25 29s} 10. Bf3 {-0.15/29 38s}
Nxd2 {+0.33/26 19s} 11. Qxd2 {-0.16/27 38s} Nc6 {+0.30/26 41s}
12. Ne2 {-0.14/28 38s} O-O {+0.31/26 34s} 13. O-O {-0.14/28 38s}
Qc7 {+0.31/25 57s} 14. Nf4 {-0.07/24 50s} b6 {+0.29/25 42s}
15. Qc1 {-0.03/25 38s} Bb7 {+0.17/23 53s} 16. a4 {+0.11/26 38s}
Rae8 {+0.16/22 39s} 17. g3 {+0.02/25 42s} h6 {+0.14/25 37s}
18. Qa3 {+0.11/28 38s} Qe7 {+0.17/28 38s} 19. Qxe7 {+0.32/30 38s}
Rxe7 {+0.10/28 40s} 20. Rfb1 {+0.13/27 38s} g6 {+0.08/27 44s}
21. h3 {+0.12/29 57s} Na5 {+0.08/29 71s} 22. h4 {+0.31/30 37s}
Ree8 {+0.08/27 51s} 23. Bg4 {+0.12/30 37s} Kg7 {+0.10/27 66s}
24. h5 {+0.24/29 37s} Bc8 {-0.15/25 61s}
25. Rf1 {+0.23/27 37s, Black disconnects} 1-0

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[Event "chess22k 1.8 64-bit 40/40 Gauntlet"]
[Site "Dual X5670"]
[Date "2018.03.15"]
[Round "3"]
[White "chess22k 1.8 64-bit"]
[Black "DisasterArea 1.65 64-bit"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D30"]
[GameEndTime "2018-03-15T15:41:28.146 Eastern Daylight Time"]
[GameStartTime "2018-03-15T13:57:14.572 Eastern Daylight Time"]
[Opening "Queen's gambit declined"]
[PlyCount "194"]
[Termination "abandoned"]
[TimeControl "40/1260"]

1. d4 {book} d5 {book} 2. c4 {book} e6 {book} 3. e3 {book} Nf6 {book}
4. cxd5 {book} exd5 {book} 5. Nf3 {-0.10/22 68s} Bd6 {+0.21/19 37s}
6. Bd3 {0.00/23 46s} c5 {+0.10/21 44s} 7. dxc5 {+0.06/24 45s}
Bxc5 {+0.13/21 42s} 8. O-O {+0.06/23 20s} Nc6 {+0.09/20 59s}
9. h3 {+0.15/23 28s} O-O {+0.21/20 38s} 10. a3 {+0.13/23 49s} Bd6 {+0.14/18 33s}
11. Nc3 {+0.03/22 19s} Re8 {+0.19/18 28s} 12. Nb5 {0.00/22 37s}
Bb8 {+0.22/19 33s} 13. Bd2 {0.00/21 26s} Ne4 {+0.16/20 34s}
14. Rc1 {0.00/21 28s} Qf6 {+0.55/18 26s} 15. Nbd4 {0.00/20 20s}
Qg6 {+0.52/18 26s} 16. Nh4 {-0.01/22 19s} Qd6 {+0.37/20 41s}
17. Nhf3 {-0.34/23 37s} a5 {+0.42/20 33s} 18. Bc3 {0.00/23 34s}
Nxd4 {+0.50/20 33s} 19. Bxd4 {0.00/24 51s} Bd7 {+0.32/20 33s}
20. Qe2 {0.00/23 50s} h6 {+0.18/19 33s} 21. Rfd1 {+0.13/22 51s}
Ba4 {+0.12/20 53s} 22. Re1 {+0.24/25 52s} Bc6 {+0.04/20 47s}
23. Bb5 {+0.22/24 16s} a4 {+0.19/20 31s} 24. Rc2 {+0.24/25 63s}
Ra5 {+0.20/20 20s} 25. Bd3 {+0.24/23 44s} Bc7 {+0.20/19 26s}
26. Rec1 {+0.39/24 19s} Qe6 {+0.08/18 26s} 27. Nh4 {+0.59/23 46s}
g5 {0.00/19 67s} 28. Nf3 {+0.91/23 52s} Qd6 {-0.20/19 30s}
29. Kf1 {+0.91/22 39s} Bd8 {-0.11/18 31s} 30. Qe1 {+0.73/22 39s}
Ra8 {0.00/20 26s} 31. Kg1 {+0.86/23 34s} Bc7 {-0.22/19 30s}
32. Qf1 {+0.77/22 33s} Re6 {-0.11/19 27s} 33. g3 {+0.90/21 43s}
Re7 {-0.29/19 30s} 34. Be2 {+0.90/19 21s} Qe6 {-0.26/18 21s}
35. Ne1 {+0.91/23 38s} Bd6 {-0.16/20 44s} 36. Qg2 {+0.85/21 26s}
Bd7 {-0.25/20 68s} 37. Bg4 {+0.74/21 11s} f5 {0.00/20 16s}
38. Be2 {+0.55/23 29s} Rf7 {0.00/20 23s} 39. Nd3 {+0.81/19 16s}
Bb5 {0.00/20 23s} 40. Ra1 {+0.39/20 8.5s} Bc4 {+0.39/18 23s}
41. Kh2 {+0.09/21 34s} h5 {+0.37/18 46s} 42. Kh1 {0.00/22 34s}
Kh7 {+0.57/18 52s} 43. Rac1 {-0.44/22 38s} Kh6 {+0.75/19 72s}
44. Re1 {0.00/23 61s} Rg8 {+0.77/18 32s} 45. Kg1 {-0.64/23 59s}
Rc7 {+0.66/19 39s} 46. Rf1 {-0.25/22 58s} Re7 {+0.87/18 33s}
47. g4 {-0.78/20 52s} Rh7 {+0.69/18 44s} 48. Rfc1 {-0.54/21 31s}
fxg4 {+1.03/19 24s} 49. hxg4 {-0.20/24 27s} h4 {+1.17/20 101s}
50. Re1 {-0.88/22 54s} Rf7 {+1.08/20 46s} 51. f4 {-0.83/22 27s}
Ng3 {+0.86/19 33s} 52. f5 {-0.37/21 33s} Qd7 {+0.93/19 37s}
53. Rc3 {-0.54/20 25s} Qb5 {+1.05/19 26s} 54. Rd1 {-0.57/22 52s}
Re8 {+1.18/19 36s} 55. Bf3 {-0.59/22 32s} Rfe7 {+0.95/18 88s}
56. Nb4 {-0.79/21 37s} Bxb4 {+1.49/19 22s} 57. axb4 {-1.04/21 37s}
Qxb4 {+1.41/19 20s} 58. Rd2 {-1.04/20 36s} Rd7 {+1.35/19 69s}
59. Rc1 {-1.26/20 25s} b5 {+1.57/18 16s} 60. Rf2 {-1.47/21 28s}
Qd6 {+1.50/19 20s} 61. Bd1 {-1.67/20 35s} Rde7 {+2.39/19 21s}
62. Qf3 {-3.01/21 29s} Re4 {+2.47/20 34s} 63. Rxc4 {-2.86/22 30s}
dxc4 {+2.47/19 13s} 64. Rd2 {-2.95/21 25s} Qc6 {+2.39/19 20s}
65. Rf2 {-3.03/20 19s} a3 {+3.25/19 13s} 66. bxa3 {-3.87/21 21s}
Qd6 {+2.90/19 29s} 67. Rd2 {-3.17/20 12s} Qxa3 {+2.94/19 20s}
68. Kg2 {-3.46/21 25s} Qb4 {+2.94/18 18s} 69. Ra2 {-3.62/22 42s}
Qd6 {+2.72/19 29s} 70. f6 {-2.29/20 31s} Rxe3 {+2.82/19 15s}
71. Bxe3 {-3.40/21 18s} Rxe3 {+3.03/20 20s} 72. Qxe3 {-3.20/22 11s}
Qxd1 {+3.06/19 20s} 73. Qf3 {-3.05/22 28s} Qh1+ {+3.18/19 20s}
74. Kf2 {-3.45/21 30s} Qh2+ {+3.10/19 63s} 75. Qg2 {-3.02/21 10.0s}
Ne4+ {+3.10/19 14s} 76. Kf1 {-2.76/20 40s} Qf4+ {+3.10/18 12s}
77. Kg1 {-3.67/19 32s} Kg6 {+3.10/18 14s} 78. f7 {-2.80/21 24s}
Kxf7 {+3.26/17 14s} 79. Re2 {-2.91/21 16s} Nf6 {+3.01/18 8.9s}
80. Rf2 {-2.87/19 6.2s} Qd4 {+3.12/18 16s} 81. Qb7+ {-3.14/19 20s}
Kg6 {+3.63/19 46s} 82. Qxb5 {-3.12/19 34s} Qd1+ {+3.57/20 44s}
83. Rf1 {-3.04/19 22s} Qxg4+ {+3.67/20 51s} 84. Kh2 {-3.24/19 47s}
Qe2+ {+3.99/20 38s} 85. Kg1 {-3.04/21 20s} Qe3+ {+3.82/21 39s}
86. Rf2 {-3.04/21 47s} Qe1+ {+3.51/19 38s} 87. Rf1 {-3.12/23 45s}
Qg3+ {+3.52/20 36s} 88. Kh1 {-3.12/23 45s} Qd3 {+3.52/21 35s}
89. Kg1 {-3.28/23 45s} Qd4+ {+3.64/19 34s} 90. Rf2 {-3.12/21 34s}
Qg4+ {+3.83/18 33s} 91. Kh2 {-3.12/22 44s} Qe6 {+3.86/19 32s}
92. Qb1+ {-3.39/19 31s} Kh5 {+3.86/18 21s} 93. Qd1+ {-3.83/21 37s}
Ng4+ {+3.74/19 32s} 94. Kh1 {-5.41/21 57s} h3 {+5.21/22 22s}
95. Qe2 {-5.78/26 14s} Qd5+ {+5.33/23 29s} 96. Qf3 {-6.18/25 55s}
Qd3 {+8.18/23 29s} 97. Kg1 {-11.54/25 53s}
Kh4 {+13.00/23 19s, White disconnects} 0-1

Gabor also got many time forfeits in 40/4 under ChessGUI. FWIW, v1.7 played in some other 40/40 gauntlets a couple of dozen games without any disconnects; perhaps it shares v1.8's issues as there were not enough games for them to crop up, though.