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We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic rules

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:04 pm
by Vinvin
https://deepmind.com/blog/alphago-zero- ... g-scratch/

AlphaGo Zero: Google DeepMind supercomputer learns 3,000 years of human knowledge in 40 days : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017 ... 000-years/

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Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:44 pm
by Daniel Shawul
Impressive yet again from the google team!
Unsupervised learning has a big potential in so many fields as they pointed out e.g. protien folding stuff.
Glad to be alive in this age of AI.

Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:33 pm
by Leo
Has AI done something other than play games? Something that would help humanity. Maybe cheat death for some of the worlds billionaires.

Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:59 pm
by duncan
Leo wrote:Has AI done something other than play games? Something that would help humanity. Maybe cheat death for some of the worlds billionaires.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41651839

US scientists are using artificial intelligence to predict whether breast lesions identified from a biopsy will turn out to cancerous.

The machine learning system has been tested on 335 high-risk lesions, and correctly diagnosed 97% as malignant.

It reduced the number of unnecessary surgeries by more than 30%, the scientists said.

Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:07 am
by Daniel Shawul
Leo wrote:Has AI done something other than play games? Something that would help humanity. Maybe cheat death for some of the worlds billionaires.
From the same link:

"Google’s secretive arm Calico, is also investigating ways to extend human life and even stop ageing altogether."

Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:26 am
by Leo
Daniel Shawul wrote:
Leo wrote:Has AI done something other than play games? Something that would help humanity. Maybe cheat death for some of the worlds billionaires.
From the same link:

"Google’s secretive arm Calico, is also investigating ways to extend human life and even stop ageing altogether."
Get back to me when they stop aging. "When its all been said and done, more will be said then done."

Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:35 am
by Leo
duncan wrote:
Leo wrote:Has AI done something other than play games? Something that would help humanity. Maybe cheat death for some of the worlds billionaires.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41651839

US scientists are using artificial intelligence to predict whether breast lesions identified from a biopsy will turn out to cancerous.

The machine learning system has been tested on 335 high-risk lesions, and correctly diagnosed 97% as malignant.

It reduced the number of unnecessary surgeries by more than 30%, the scientists said.
I am glad to hear that. Those are the kind of things that matter, not what machine beat what human in some game, and then brag about how great they are.

Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:01 am
by reflectionofpower
"In tests, it trounced the version that defeated Lee by 100 games to nothing, and has begun to generate its own new ideas for the more than 2,000-year-old game."

Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:51 am
by Uri Blass
Vinvin wrote:https://deepmind.com/blog/alphago-zero- ... g-scratch/

AlphaGo Zero: Google DeepMind supercomputer learns 3,000 years of human knowledge in 40 days : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017 ... 000-years/

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I read in the article the following:
"The raw neural network, without using any lookahead, achieved an Elo rating of 3,055"

The question is how much time the computer need per position to use the raw neural network without using any lookahead and if it is something that people also can learn to do.

Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:48 am
by Hai
Vinvin wrote:https://deepmind.com/blog/alphago-zero- ... g-scratch/

AlphaGo Zero: Google DeepMind supercomputer learns 3,000 years of human knowledge in 40 days : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017 ... 000-years/

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This sounds like it should be easier to do the same thing with chess engines.
The first Go AI was as bad as Giraffe. And Giraffe is our beginning.