Maybe a future TCEC champion has just been born.yolin wrote:Gian-Carlo's project is generating a lot of interest:
http://zero.sjeng.org/
Also this adaptation to chess just got posted:
https://github.com/gcp/leela-zero/issues/155
https://github.com/Zeta36/chess-alpha-zero
We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic rules
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But the world is more complicated and it can not be transcribed with formal logic and two bits mathematics.
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A correction:
Instead of "two bits mathematics" the correct expression is
"binary mathematics"
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But the world is more complicated and it can not be transcribed with formal logic and two bits mathematics.
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A correction:
Instead of "two bits mathematics" the correct expression is
"binary mathematics"
Sorry!
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He basically said,"It is what it is"Dirt wrote:Really? What did he just say? Something about dogs and cats and rectifiers...I didn't understand any of it.reflectionofpower wrote:Nicely said.Laskos wrote:To reply to the thread title:
We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic rules
Sure, humans are doomed, at Chess and Go, and many other things. Observing carefully my cats, and remembering my dogs from when I was a teenager, I think their doom is so far in the future, and even asymptotically to infinity prone to a logical definition, that I am not that concerned thinking of this "doom".
We were doomed since we have learned that tertium non datur. Cats and dogs hardly follow any of these human arrogances, which prove to be no more than imitations of an ideal diode.
"Without change, something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken." (Dune - 1984)
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The problem is search speed.
You can have a Stockfish-equivalent eval implemented in a NN, but the eval speed will not be the same (likely worse).
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Another problem is that the human logic for a chess engine is unproductive. Because of this every trial to make a very strong chess engine basing on human chess logic only is a failure. The question is what a logic is good for chess engines. The answer to this question the programmers of chess engines can reply only and not the super computer of Google.
The problem is search speed.
You can have a Stockfish-equivalent eval implemented in a NN, but the eval speed will not be the same (likely worse).
--Jon
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Another problem is that the human logic for a chess engine is unproductive. Because of this every trial to make a very strong chess engine basing on human chess logic only is a failure. The question is what a logic is good for chess engines. The answer to this question the programmers of chess engines can reply only and not the super computer of Google.
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Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r
Amazing stuff - thanks for the links.Leto wrote:Maybe a future TCEC champion has just been born.yolin wrote:Gian-Carlo's project is generating a lot of interest:
http://zero.sjeng.org/
Also this adaptation to chess just got posted:
https://github.com/gcp/leela-zero/issues/155
https://github.com/Zeta36/chess-alpha-zero
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300,000 games gets 1500 points.yolin wrote:Gian-Carlo's project is generating a lot of interest:
http://zero.sjeng.org/
Also this adaptation to chess just got posted:
https://github.com/gcp/leela-zero/issues/155
https://github.com/Zeta36/chess-alpha-zero
does this mean double the games it may be world champion with 3,000 points?
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Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r
Many important improvements for life quality used to came from war.... that coming now, some at least, from games, is a nice improvement!Leo wrote:I am glad to hear that. Those are the kind of things that matter, not what machine beat what human in some game, and then brag about how great they are.duncan wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-41651839Leo wrote:Has AI done something other than play games? Something that would help humanity. Maybe cheat death for some of the worlds billionaires.
US scientists are using artificial intelligence to predict whether breast lesions identified from a biopsy will turn out to cancerous.
The machine learning system has been tested on 335 high-risk lesions, and correctly diagnosed 97% as malignant.
It reduced the number of unnecessary surgeries by more than 30%, the scientists said.
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Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r
Not at all. I doubt all this project will catch in foreseeable future top conventional engines.duncan wrote:300,000 games gets 1500 points.yolin wrote:Gian-Carlo's project is generating a lot of interest:
http://zero.sjeng.org/
Also this adaptation to chess just got posted:
https://github.com/gcp/leela-zero/issues/155
https://github.com/Zeta36/chess-alpha-zero
does this mean double the games it may be world champion with 3,000 points?
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Re: We are doomed - AlphaGo Zero, learning only from basic r
is it doing anything significant. have other ai's taken far more thanLaskos wrote:Not at all. I doubt all this project will catch in foreseeable future top conventional engines.duncan wrote:300,000 games gets 1500 points.yolin wrote:Gian-Carlo's project is generating a lot of interest:
http://zero.sjeng.org/
Also this adaptation to chess just got posted:
https://github.com/gcp/leela-zero/issues/155
https://github.com/Zeta36/chess-alpha-zero
does this mean double the games it may be world champion with 3,000 points?
300,000 games to get to 1500 points.?
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