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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Laskos » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:34 am

Michel wrote:The z-value (W+L)/sqrt(W-L) is currently 5/3=1.66, well within the 95% interval [-1.96,1.96]. So the claims that Komodo is being routed were premature.

Of course we have to wait for the final outcome but currently there is little hard evidence to back up the general perception here that Houdini is now somehow "much stronger" than Komodo.
Correct the signs, to be pedantic :).

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Michel » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:55 am

Dyslexia... (W-L)/sqrt(W+L).
Ideas=science. Simplification=engineering.
Without ideas there is nothing to simplify.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Guenther » Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:24 pm

Geonerd wrote:[profanity], this is a pedantic, argumentative bunch! :(

Have any of the people lecturing the world on "correct statistics" even looked at the bleeping games???
IMO, Houdini has a clear 'pull' over Komodo in the middle-game, and is generally the one with winning chances. Combine that with the current score and - yea - I'd call it a 'thrashing.'
All people who never believed in stats will learn the hard way in the TCEC final.
Komodo soon at 3:7 =42 and being the first to win with Black!
100 games are simply nothing between equally strong programs.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by syzygy » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:34 pm

Guenther wrote:All people who never believed in stats will learn the hard way in the TCEC final.
They will learn? :o

This is a pattern that will keep repeating. Engines are judged by their last game only.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Graham Banks » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:29 pm

Michel wrote:Dyslexia... (W-L)/sqrt(W+L).
Didn't realise I was dyslexic until I went to a toga party dressed as a goat.
gbanksnz at gmail.com

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Dann Corbit » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:11 pm

Graham Banks wrote:
Michel wrote:Dyslexia... (W-L)/sqrt(W+L).
Didn't realise I was dyslexic until I went to a toga party dressed as a goat.
What does an agnostic dyslexic insomniac do?
He lays awake at night, wondering if there is a dog.


P.S.
I also am dyslexic
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Graham Banks » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:19 pm

Dann Corbit wrote:
Graham Banks wrote:
Michel wrote:Dyslexia... (W-L)/sqrt(W+L).
Didn't realise I was dyslexic until I went to a toga party dressed as a goat.
What does an agnostic dyslexic insomniac do?
He lays awake at night, wondering if there is a dog.


P.S.
I also am dyslexic
Nice one.
I'm not dyslexic, but have a lot of experience teaching those with it. :)
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by chetday » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:35 pm

Did you hear about the dyslexic devil worshipper?

He sold his soul to Santa!

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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Graham Banks » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:47 pm

chetday wrote:Did you hear about the dyslexic devil worshipper?

He sold his soul to Santa!
:)
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Re: TCEC 10

Post by Dann Corbit » Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:04 am

Dyslexics of the world UNTIE!
Taking ideas is not a vice, it is a virtue. We have another word for this. It is called learning.
But sharing ideas is an even greater virtue. We have another word for this. It is called teaching.

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