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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by cc2150dx » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:03 pm

does anyone have Houdini 6 STD?

check this:

uci
id name Houdini 6 x64-popc
id author Robert Houdart
option name Threads type spin min 1 max 80 default 1
option name Hash type spin min 1 max 4096 default 128
option name Clear Hash type button
option name Tactical Mode type spin min 0 max 80 default 0
option name Ponder type check default false
option name Contempt type spin min -10 max 10 default 2
option name Analysis Contempt type check default false
option name MultiPV type spin min 1 max 220 default 1
option name MultiPV_cp type spin min 0 max 999 default 0
option name SyzygyPath type string default <empty>
option name EGTB Probe Depth type spin min 0 max 99 default 1
option name EGTB Fifty Move Rule type check default true
option name Strength type spin min 0 max 100 default 100
option name UCI_LimitStrength type check default false
option name UCI_Elo type spin min 1000 max 3200 default 3200
option name UCI_Chess960 type check default false
option name Never Clear Hash type check default false
option name Hash File type string default <empty>
option name Save Hash to File type button
option name Load Hash from File type button
option name FiftyMoveDistance type spin min 5 max 50 default 50
option name Move Overhead type spin min 0 max 5000 default 0
option name UCI Log File type string default
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option name Threads type spin min 1 max 80 default 1 (and yes..max 80)!!
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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by Houdini » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:13 pm

CheckersGuy wrote:
Leo wrote:
CheckersGuy wrote:Will there be minor patches leading up to TCEC Robert ? :lol: You surely haven`t shown all you cards yet, have you ?
There are minor patches between TCEC rounds, not leading up to it. And why would he tell you if he had shown all his cards?
First of all I didnt expect Houdart to tell me or anyone else I just hoped that he would :P
Secondly, where did Robert confirm that he will update Houdini between TCEC rounds ? Robert can surely patch H6 before TCEC starts or in between rounds if he wants to....
The Houdini release cycle has very little to do with TCEC.
TCEC is a fun tournament, but it's really not the most important thing in the world. I may or may not send in an improved version (no idea at this point in time) - it's frankly not all that important.

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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by Houdini » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:18 pm

cc2150dx wrote:option name Threads type spin min 1 max 80 default 1 (and yes..max 80)!!
Correct, the very early Standard purchasers have received a version that was inadvertently too highly threaded. This has already been corrected in the current download packages. So you will lose this unexpected advantage with any future upgrade :).

In the Pro package, on other hand, we will continue to provide a Standard version that allows a high number of threads. This means that you can interchange Pro and Standard engines on high-end hardware when the needs arises, e.g. if you don't want the NUMA or Large Page stuff.
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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by CheckersGuy » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:18 pm

I did forget to ask you something Robert. I did buy the standard version. If I decided to upgrade to the pro version at some point, would I need to pay for the full version (60$) or the difference ?


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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by Laskos » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:23 pm

Have you seen guys the individual statistics in Ingo's IPON match? pretty interesting:

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Head to head statistics&#58;

 1&#41; Houdini 6        3354 &#58;   3300 (+2206,=1026,-68&#41;,  82.4 %

    vs.                    &#58;  games (    +,    =,  -),   (%) &#58;   Diff,   SD, CFS (%)
    Komodo 11.2.2          &#58;    220 (   49,  149, 22&#41;,  56.1 &#58;    +39,    8,  100.0
    Stockfish 8            &#58;    220 (   39,  162, 19&#41;,  54.5 &#58;    +55,    7,  100.0
    Shredder 13            &#58;    220 (  125,   93,  2&#41;,  78.0 &#58;   +234,    7,  100.0
    Fizbo 1.9              &#58;    220 (  147,   65,  8&#41;,  81.6 &#58;   +285,    7,  100.0
    Ginkgo 2.0             &#58;    220 (  152,   66,  2&#41;,  84.1 &#58;   +293,    7,  100.0
    Gull 3                 &#58;    220 (  161,   54,  5&#41;,  85.5 &#58;   +298,    7,  100.0
    Booot 6.2              &#58;    220 (  165,   55,  0&#41;,  87.5 &#58;   +329,    7,  100.0
    Jonny 8.00             &#58;    220 (  160,   56,  4&#41;,  85.5 &#58;   +329,    7,  100.0
    Andscacs 0.90          &#58;    220 (  175,   44,  1&#41;,  89.5 &#58;   +333,    7,  100.0
    Equinox 3.30           &#58;    220 (  171,   49,  0&#41;,  88.9 &#58;   +349,    7,  100.0
    Chiron 4               &#58;    220 (  175,   45,  0&#41;,  89.8 &#58;   +360,    7,  100.0
    Critter 1.6a           &#58;    220 (  175,   45,  0&#41;,  89.8 &#58;   +361,    7,  100.0
    Fritz 15               &#58;    220 (  176,   44,  0&#41;,  90.0 &#58;   +361,    7,  100.0
    Nirvanachess 2.4       &#58;    220 (  175,   44,  1&#41;,  89.5 &#58;   +388,    7,  100.0
    Hannibal 1.7           &#58;    220 (  161,   55,  4&#41;,  85.7 &#58;   +394,    7,  100.0

In fact, Houdini 6 is beating Stockfish 8 quite heavily, but it is obfuscated by high draw rate (73.6%), almost as heavily as it is beating Komodo 11.2.2. But Komodo is using the default settings with pretty high Contempt, so it is a bit underperforming against a stronger Houdini 6. Interesting results.

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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by Houdini » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:23 pm

CheckersGuy wrote:I did forget to ask you something Robert. I did buy the standard version. If I decided to upgrade to the pro version at some point, would I need to pay for the full version (60$) or the difference ?
When the need arises, you can send us a mail and we'll direct you to an upgrade page on which you can pay the (€20 Euro + VAT) difference in price for the Pro version.

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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by Laskos » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:29 pm

Houdini wrote:
CheckersGuy wrote:
Leo wrote:
CheckersGuy wrote:Will there be minor patches leading up to TCEC Robert ? :lol: You surely haven`t shown all you cards yet, have you ?
There are minor patches between TCEC rounds, not leading up to it. And why would he tell you if he had shown all his cards?
First of all I didnt expect Houdart to tell me or anyone else I just hoped that he would :P
Secondly, where did Robert confirm that he will update Houdini between TCEC rounds ? Robert can surely patch H6 before TCEC starts or in between rounds if he wants to....
The Houdini release cycle has very little to do with TCEC.
TCEC is a fun tournament, but it's really not the most important thing in the world. I may or may not send in an improved version (no idea at this point in time) - it's frankly not all that important.
I think that a victory at TCEC would be important for Houdini, at least for users who know well what chess engines are about. And even for marketing purposes, nowadays TCEC results are as publicized as the crappy WCCC (TCEC would deserve even more). I don't know why you are not very interested in TCEC.

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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by Houdini » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:40 pm

Laskos wrote:I don't know why you are not very interested in TCEC.
I am very interested in TCEC, but it's not a deciding factor in the release cycle of Houdini.
Sending in versions at each Stage that are marginally better than the previous one, is not hugely relevant. For me it's definitely at least as interesting to see how the publicly released version is doing.

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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by Nordlandia » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:24 pm

Houdini wrote:
Laskos wrote:I don't know why you are not very interested in TCEC.
I am very interested in TCEC, but it's not a deciding factor in the release cycle of Houdini.
Sending in versions at each Stage that are marginally better than the previous one, is not hugely relevant. For me it's definitely at least as interesting to see how the publicly released version is doing.
It is 99.95% certain that current Houdini qualifes from early stages. Perhaps only at later stages engine update may be considered?

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Re: Houdini 6 has been released

Post by Leo » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:39 pm

Laskos wrote:
Houdini wrote:
CheckersGuy wrote:
Leo wrote:
CheckersGuy wrote:Will there be minor patches leading up to TCEC Robert ? :lol: You surely haven`t shown all you cards yet, have you ?
There are minor patches between TCEC rounds, not leading up to it. And why would he tell you if he had shown all his cards?
First of all I didnt expect Houdart to tell me or anyone else I just hoped that he would :P
Secondly, where did Robert confirm that he will update Houdini between TCEC rounds ? Robert can surely patch H6 before TCEC starts or in between rounds if he wants to....
The Houdini release cycle has very little to do with TCEC.
TCEC is a fun tournament, but it's really not the most important thing in the world. I may or may not send in an improved version (no idea at this point in time) - it's frankly not all that important.
I think that a victory at TCEC would be important for Houdini, at least for users who know well what chess engines are about. And even for marketing purposes, nowadays TCEC results are as publicized as the crappy WCCC (TCEC would deserve even more). I don't know why you are not very interested in TCEC.
A win for Houdini in the super final would get a lot of attention and drive sales. He is still in business whatever the result but a win would boost Houdini in a lot of ways.
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