Thanks to all for the Recipes, but...

[Stan Arts]

In my opinion, those moments of life are not abstract things, but precisely those cigarettes, drinks, sex, reading, writing etc that fill the moments. So if you suppress those, you suppress the "moments of life" and nothing rest.

Or you have just come up with every excuse to not have to work at it.
It's not all or nothing. You can work hard to stay alive and at the same time get a chance to experience more such worthwhile moments of reading, writing, traveling etc.
At 36 I have doubled my life expectancy by now (Cystic Fibrosis) by investing the effort, at the same time making life valuable in itself even or especially without drinks and cigarettes. Infact it's pretty cool. Recently signed up to skate a 100+ km's in Sweden in february. I suggest you join me to really feel the difference between being alive and not so much.

Can always just give up another day regards

[MikeB]

What kind of life is that?

longer perhaps - more time with family & friends ...but with everything , there are no guarantees - the real secret at the end of the day -> moderation and good DNA ...one you can control, the other you have no control over - but clearly you do have choices to make that only you can make...

[Laskos]

Drinking water, exercises, bike riding, no sugar, no wine, etc...
What kind of life is that?
I am afraid I will not follow suit with any of those advice, which are good and I receive with sincere feelings of love for all, but I prefer to die soon than to die one or two years later with that regime.
Besides, who knows, bells still does not call me to rest.

Moriture te salutam regards
Fern

Sure you are right. I had a deep impression on that since I was 13-14 year old. My father's colleague at a research center and a good, maybe the best friend of his, had a heart attack. He was not even 60 of age and a pretty brilliant researcher trying to find the exact and general solution to 3D Ising Model (unsolved to our days). If he had solved that, he would have received Nobel Prize. Well, doctors told him that skiing is strictly forbidden. It was his hobby and he said "if skiing is forbidden, then I better die". He died while skiing half a year later.

I had a cancer during my PhD studies in USA in years 2000's. It went well, cured by extraction (Stage I), but doctors told me that smoking is forbidden. Well, smoking in 10 years since then increased from 1 pack a day to 1.5 packs a day.

You will never die in the sense that your writings, your recommended to me reading (on CTF, remember?) will somehow survive to who knows what future generations. Picture taken 10 minutes ago of one of my active readings and re-readings:



And that is what a cancer survivor with ban on cigarettes does two weeks ago on holidays in the beautiful town of Parga (a coastal town with heavy Venezian influences on the western coast of Greece):



Credit for picture taken to my girlfriend . Women are such wonderful beings.
I have no idea what is my life expectancy. Probably not very high. But listening to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yibf6QNjgGU ,

I don't care too much. I know you are into classical music, not sure if piano impresses you. This is the penultimate recital of Horowitz, in Vienna. Kinderszenen of Schumann. The piano is specially prepared for the frailty of his fingers. Only by this rendering, he is immortal.

[Rodolfo Leoni]

In my opinion, those moments of life are not abstract things, but precisely those cigarettes, drinks, sex, reading, writing etc that fill the moments. So if you suppress those, you suppress the "moments of life" and nothing rest.

Or you have just come up with every excuse to not have to work at it.
It's not all or nothing. You can work hard to stay alive and at the same time get a chance to experience more such worthwhile moments of reading, writing, traveling etc.
At 36 I have doubled my life expectancy by now (Cystic Fibrosis) by investing the effort, at the same time making life valuable in itself even or especially without drinks and cigarettes. Infact it's pretty cool. Recently signed up to skate a 100+ km's in Sweden in february. I suggest you join me to really feel the difference between being alive and not so much.

Can always just give up another day regards

This is life! Agreed 100%.
I can't join the race, though...

@Kai: Agreed 0%. And, BTW, no relations between fall of Rome and this nonsense everybody calls Europe. Only randomness in "history pruning".

[duncan]

And that is what a cancer survivor with ban on cigarettes does two weeks ago on holidays in the beautiful town of Parga (a coastal town with heavy Venezian influences on the western coast of Greece):
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what is your opinion on e-cigarettes. are they an adequate replacement for this who have the need?

[duncan]

Drinking water, exercises, bike riding, no sugar, no wine, etc...
What kind of life is that?
Fern

imo it is not a choice of living well and dying peacefully.there can be worse options. think of all the quality of life those struck down with strokes etc, or constantly having to check in and out of hospitals just to tread water, stopping a bad condition becoming worse.

What kind of life is that?

[Laskos]

And that is what a cancer survivor with ban on cigarettes does two weeks ago on holidays in the beautiful town of Parga (a coastal town with heavy Venezian influences on the western coast of Greece):
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what is your opinion on e-cigarettes. are they an adequate replacement for this who have the need?

To me they are not adequate. I tried several, and they don't satisfy most of the things cigarettes do to me. It's not just the nicotine, it's the twitch in hands and mouth, the physical "activity" involved in smoking a cigarette, it's the tar and all the other residues of the real smoke vapour, it's the feel of the real cigarette. I have some rituals, for example coffee and those real cigarettes in the morning on the terrace or balcony. Or real cigarettes during a glass of wine after a dinner.

[fern]

Due to this post, the preceding one and so many others we have exchanged I feel we are brothers in the soul.

That book you are reading is very good, but there are another about the topic I advise you to read, BTW, I have two of them, the typical mistake of a compulsive buyer, so if you give me your address, brother, I can send it to you
is "How Rome Fell" by good specialist Goldsworthy.

[Rodolfo Leoni]

Due to this post, the preceding one and so many others we have exchanged I feel we are brothers in the soul.

That book you are reading is very good, but there are another about the topic I advise you to read, BTW, I have two of them, the typical mistake of a compulsive buyer, so if you give me your address, brother, I can send it to you
is "How Rome Fell" by good specialist Goldsworthy.

It's interesting to observe you feeling better about doing what you know to be wrong for your health, after getting an "agreement"... I can't argue anymore about it. But about Rome and its fall, you could find "History of Rome" (one volume) and "History of Italy" (first volume out of ten) by Indro Montanelli interesting as well.

Nothing about born of Europe, though. If you just think at what could be happened at Wien 1683 you can realize today's Europe could be part of Ottoman Empire. Or maybe Moscow, December 1941. If not for the coldest winter in last 100 years we could have a nazi-Europe, today...

I'll try to learn more about that book anyway.

[fern]

Ad essere sinceri, rodolfo, la mia richiesta di idee per migliorare la mia salute era piuttosto accertare quanti amici ho sul sito, preoccupato per il mio benessere ...

ferdinando