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Re: 2017 World Computer Software Championship 2017

Post by mjlef » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:44 pm

Whoops, I mean July 2, 2017, 9:00 am The Netherlands time.

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Re: 2017 World Computer Software Championship 2017

Post by Norbert Raimund Leisner » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:49 am

Hello,

what are the exact versions of all participating engines and are Ziggurat / Jonny / The Baron freeware or private chess programs?

Can you tell me the email-address of David Norris, please?
My approach to david.norris@verizon.net was rejected:
http://www.serversmtp.com/en/error-550

The website http://davidcnorris.wixsite.com/ziggurat/downloads contains obviously no working download links.

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Norbert

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Re: 2017 World Computer Software Championship 2017

Post by Sven » Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:24 pm

Have you already checked the RWBC site?

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Re: 2017 World Computer Software Championship 2017

Post by Harvey Williamson » Sun Jul 02, 2017 3:24 pm

Shredder won the World Computer Software Championship which is played on equal hardware. To me that is the real World Championship. Jonny and Komodo are equal 2nd.

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Re: 2017 World Computer Software Championship 2017

Post by leavenfish » Sun Jul 02, 2017 6:09 pm

With no Houdini and no Stockfish...it's a hollow title whomever wins.

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Re: 2017 World Computer Software Championship 2017

Post by Werner » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:33 pm

Harvey Williamson wrote:Shredder won the World Computer Software Championship which is played on equal hardware. To me that is the real World Championship. Jonny and Komodo are equal 2nd.
Congrads to the Shredder Team and Stefan!

after 2015 again winner of the World Computer Software Championship 2017!

I am waiting to test this Version!

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Re: WCSC 2017 - Could Shredder win vs Jonny ?

Post by Paloma » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:10 pm

Is 84. Ra3 or Qc3 better than played 84. Qd4

Shredder - Jonny
1q6/6k1/4bp2/R5p1/8/1P1Q4/6P1/7K w - - 0 1

Analysis by Houdini 5.01 Pro x64-pext:
1. +- (2.44): 84.Ra3 Bf7 85.Qc3 Qd6 86.b4 Qd1+ 87.Kh2 Qd6+ 88.Kg1 Qd1+ 89.Kf2 Qd6 90.Ra1 ...
2. +- (2.30): 84.Qc3 Kg6
3. +/- (1.47): 84.Qd4 Qxb3 85.Rxg5+ Kf7 86.Qa7+ Ke8 87.Qa8+ Kf7 88.Qg8+ Ke7 89.Rg7+ Bf7 90.Rh7 ...
White is clearly better

[pgn][Event "WCSC 2017"]
[Site "Leiden"]
[Date "2017.07.02"]
[Round "7.1"]
[White "Shredder"]
[Black "Jonny"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "D46"]
[PlyCount "192"]
[EventDate "2017.07.02"]
[WhiteClock "0:06:47"]
[BlackClock "0:09:38"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Qc2 Bd6 7. Bd3 O-O 8. O-O
dxc4 9. Bxc4 Qe7 10. h3 b5 11. Bd3 Bb7 12. e4 e5 13. dxe5 Nxe5 14. Nxe5 Bxe5
15. Be3 Rfe8 16. Rfd1 a6 17. Ne2 Bd6 18. a4 Rac8 19. Nd4 g6 20. Nf3 Nh5 21. Qd2
Rcd8 22. Bg5 f6 23. Be3 Kh8 24. Qc1 Rd7 25. Bb6 Qf7 26. Bc2 Nf4 27. Qd2 Ree7
28. Be3 g5 29. Qe1 Re8 30. Qf1 Bc8 31. axb5 cxb5 32. Rac1 Bb8 33. Bb1 Qg7 34.
Nh2 Red8 35. Rxd7 Qxd7 36. Kh1 Bb7 37. Bb6 Rc8 38. Rd1 Qe6 39. Bd4 h5 40. Nf3
Kg8 41. Qe1 Nxh3 42. Qa5 Qd7 43. Qa2+ Kg7 44. Qb3 Qg4 45. Nh2 Qf4 46. Qxh3 Rc1
47. Rg1 Rxb1 48. Rxb1 Qxe4 49. Rf1 Qxd4 50. Qxh5 Qe4 51. Nf3
Qd5 52. Qe8 Bd6 53. Qd7+ Kg6 54. Re1 a5 55. Qg4 Kf7 56. Nd4 Kg6 57. Rd1 Qe5 58.
Kg1 Bc5 59. Nxb5 Bxf2+ 60. Kxf2 Qxb5 61. Qd4 Qf5+ 62. Kg1 Bc6 63. Qc4 Bb5 64.
Qg8+ Kh6 65. Qd5 Qc2 66. Rd2 Qc1+ 67. Kh2 Qe1 68. Rd4 Qf2 69. Re4 Qf1 70. Rg4
Qe2 71. Rg3 Bc4 72. Qd4 Kg6 73. Ra3 Bb5 74. Re3 Qc2 75. Rc3 Qe2 76. Qd5 Kg7 77.
b3 Qe1 78. Qd4 Qe8 79. Rc5 Kg6 80. Qd5 Bd7 81. Qd3+ Kg7 82. Rxa5 Qb8+ 83. Kh1
Be6 84. Qd4 Qxb3 85. Rxg5+ Kf7 86. Qa7+ Ke8 87. Qa8+ Kf7 88. Qg8+ Ke7 89. Qg7+
Bf7 90. Rg3 Qd1+ 91. Kh2 Qh5+ 92. Rh3 Qe5+ 93. Qg3 Qxg3+ 94. Kxg3 Bd5 95. Rh8
Kd6 96. Re8 Bc6 1/2-1/2 [/pgn]

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Re: WCSC 2017 - Could Shredder win vs Jonny ?

Post by Paloma » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:37 pm

1q6/6k1/4bp2/R5p1/8/1P1Q4/6P1/7K w - - 0 1

Depth: 35 6cores
Analysis by Houdini 5.01 Pro x64-pext:

1. +- (2.51): 84.Ra3 Bf7 85.Qc3 Qd6 86.Ra1 Be6 87.b4 Bd7 88.Qc5 Qd3 89.Re1 Kh6 90.Kg1 Kh5 91.Rf1 Kg6 92.Qb6 Qc3
2. +- (2.51): 84.Qc3 Kg6 85.b4 Qf4 86.Qe1 Qg4 87.Rc5 Bf5 88.Qd2 Be4 89.Kg1 Qe6 90.Qd4 Lc6 91.Rc1 Kg7 92.Kh2 Kg6
3. +/- (1.55): 84.Qd4 Qxb3 85.Rxg5+ Kf7 86.Qa7+ Ke8 87.Qa8+ Kf7 88.Qg8+ Ke7 89.Rg7+ Bf7 90.Rh7 Qd1+ 91.Kh2 Qh5+ 92.Rxh5 Bxg8

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Re: WCSC 2017 - Could Shredder win vs Jonny ?

Post by MikeB » Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:49 am

Paloma wrote:1q6/6k1/4bp2/R5p1/8/1P1Q4/6P1/7K w - - 0 1

Depth: 35 6cores
Analysis by Houdini 5.01 Pro x64-pext:

1. +- (2.51): 84.Ra3 Bf7 85.Qc3 Qd6 86.Ra1 Be6 87.b4 Bd7 88.Qc5 Qd3 89.Re1 Kh6 90.Kg1 Kh5 91.Rf1 Kg6 92.Qb6 Qc3
2. +- (2.51): 84.Qc3 Kg6 85.b4 Qf4 86.Qe1 Qg4 87.Rc5 Bf5 88.Qd2 Be4 89.Kg1 Qe6 90.Qd4 Lc6 91.Rc1 Kg7 92.Kh2 Kg6
3. +/- (1.55): 84.Qd4 Qxb3 85.Rxg5+ Kf7 86.Qa7+ Ke8 87.Qa8+ Kf7 88.Qg8+ Ke7 89.Rg7+ Bf7 90.Rh7 Qd1+ 91.Kh2 Qh5+ 92.Rxh5 Bxg8
SF -McB v26 after 3 minutes - agrees that Ra3 and Qc3 are better. Qd4 did not make top 3.

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dep	score	nodes	time	(not shown:  tbhits	knps	seldep)
 32	+3.38 	4.70G	2:57.93	Ra3 Bg8 Qc3 Be6 Ra5 g4 b4 Qd6 Ra1 Qf4 Ra3 Kg6 Qe1 Qc4 Re3 Bf5 Re8 Qc6 Qe3 Qc4 Rh8 Be4 Qd2 Bd5 Rd8 Be4 Kg1 Bf5 Rh8 Be6 Qe3 Bd5 Rd8 Kf5 Rd6 g3 Qxg3 
 32	+3.32 	3.72G	2:20.99	Qc3 Kg6 b4 Qf4 Kg1 Bc4 Ra1 Qg4 Re1 Bb5 Qc2+ Kh6 Re3 Qd4 Qc5 Qd7 Re4 Qd1+ Kh2 Qf1 Qd4 Ba4 Re7 Bc6 Qd2 Ba4 Qe3 Qf5 Qe4 Qf4+ Qxf4 gxf4 Rc7 f3 gxf3 Kg6 Rc5 
 32	+2.24 	4.81G	3:02.06	Rb5 Qc7 Rb4 Qc6 Kh2 Qc7+ Qg3 Qc6 Rd4 Qb6 Rd3 Bf7 Re3 Kh6 Rc3 Kg7 Qc7 Qd4 Rh3 Qe4 Qb8 Kg6 Qg3 Kg7 Qe3 Qb4 Rg3 Bd5 Qd3 Bc6 Qc4 Qxc4 bxc4 Kf7 Re3 f5 c5 Kf6 Rh3 Ke5 Rh6 Kd5 Rh5 Kd4 Rxg5 

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Re: 2017 World Computer Software Championship 2017

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:26 am

one more demonstration this championship is fully useless, as Komodo is certainly way ahead of Shredder in terms of strength.

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