Rare beautiful games of the top engines

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MikeGL
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Rare beautiful games of the top engines

Post by MikeGL »

The game below is a rare gem where Stockfish 8 having white pieces was crushed by black (Houdini 5). Houdini preferred piece activity/development and piece coordination in exchange for 2 pawns.

If there's a Brilliancy Prize for Engine Tournament, this could be a nominee or could even win that prize.
[pgn]
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Stockfish 8"]
[Black "Houdini 5.01"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "126"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 {book} e5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} Nf6 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Nc6 {book} 4.
Bb5 {book} Nd4 {book} 5. Ba4 {book} Bc5 {book} 6. Nxe5 {book} O-O {book} 7.
Nd3 {book} Bb6 {book} 8. Nf4 {book} c6 {book} 9. d3 {-0.23/32 165s} d5
{+0.04/24 163s} 10. h3 {-0.31/29 16s} a5 {+0.06/23 136s} 11. exd5 {0.00/26
45s} Re8+ {+0.20/23 65s} 12. Kf1 {-0.11/27 34s} Qd6 {+0.57/22 52s} 13. g4
{0.00/28 75s} h6 {+0.44/25 138s} 14. dxc6 {0.00/27 14s} bxc6 {+0.45/24 99s}
15. Ng2 {-0.12/31 158s} Ba6 {+0.39/23 229s} 16. Bf4 {0.00/27 69s} Qb4
{+0.25/24 164s} 17. Rb1 {0.00/27 91s} Rad8 {+0.28/24 83s} 18. a3 {0.00/31
88s} Qe7 {+0.39/23 65s} 19. Be3 {-0.33/32 600s} Qc7 {+0.51/24 142s} 20. Bf4
{-0.21/29 63s} Qd7 {+0.70/22 133s} 21. Be3 {-0.13/30 49s} Nd5 {+0.87/24
47s} 22. Bxd4 {-0.63/31 157s} Bxd4 {+0.87/23 0.016s} 23. Nxd5 {-0.39/27
13s} Qxd5 {+1.03/24 73s} 24. Kg1 {-0.85/31 211s} Rd6 {+1.15/23 0.14s} 25.
Nh4 {-0.78/29 66s} Rf6 {+1.24/24 41s} 26. Rh2 {-1.11/32 198s} g6 {+1.36/24
53s} 27. Rg2 {-1.52/32 179s} Ba7 {+1.51/22 51s} 28. Qd2 {-1.45/29 119s} Qe5
{+1.74/22 51s} 29. Qc3 {-1.55/31 89s} Bd4 {+2.00/22 43s} 30. Qd2 {-2.37/30
111s} Rb8 {+1.98/22 16s} 31. b4 {-1.89/27 51s} c5 {+2.15/23 43s} 32. Re1
{-2.88/31 192s} Qg5 {+2.40/25 55s} 33. Qxg5 {-2.95/32 173s} hxg5 {+2.43/25
77s} 34. Nxg6 {-3.29/32 232s} Rxg6 {+2.39/26 91s} 35. bxa5 {-3.39/30 113s}
Rf6 {+2.50/23 14s} 36. Rd1 {-3.63/32 339s} Kg7 {+2.89/23 47s} 37. Rc1
{-3.54/29 35s} Rb2 {+3.08/23 43s} 38. Rd1 {-4.22/32 220s} Bb7 {+3.21/25
52s} 39. Bb3 {-4.48/31 66s} Rf3 {+3.39/26 72s} 40. Rh2 {-4.56/32 46s} Be5
{+3.39/24 0.12s} 41. Rh1 {-4.70/31 29s} c4 {+4.84/26 66s} 42. dxc4
{-6.43/30 49s} Bg3 {+4.84/24 0s} 43. fxg3 {-6.36/27 3.9s} Rxg3+ {+5.57/25
42s} 44. Kf1 {-6.59/30 28s} Bxh1 {+5.84/27 47s} 45. Rd4 {-6.69/25 3.8s}
Bg2+ {+6.18/26 43s} 46. Ke1 {-7.96/30 38s} Bxh3 {+6.18/26 0s} 47. c5
{-8.38/31 50s} Rg2 {+9.10/25 43s} 48. Rd1 {-8.06/28 7.3s} Bxg4 {+81.52/25
47s} 49. Rc1 {-8.62/27 10s} Bf3 {+M67/34 59s} 50. c6 {-21.62/26 35s} Bxc6
{+M53/34 22s} 51. a4 {-54.38/29 18s} g4 {+M35/40 42s} 52. Kf1 {-M44/29 15s}
Rh2 {+M23/30 3.8s} 53. a6 {-M24/30 15s} g3 {+M21/28 0.25s} 54. a7 {-M20/33
9.6s} g2+ {+M19/27 0.34s} 55. Kf2 {-M18/34 2.8s} Rh1 {+M17/25 0s} 56. Rxh1
{-M16/37 12s} gxh1=Q {+M15/23 0s} 57. Ke3 {-M14/39 2.5s} Qe4+ {+M13/21
0.046s} 58. Kd2 {-M12/59 13s} Qf3 {+M11/20 0.032s} 59. a8=Q {-M10/66 13s}
Bxa8 {+M9/18 0.032s} 60. Bd5 {-M8/112 12s} Qf2+ {+M7/16 0.016s} 61. Kd3
{-M6/127 0.36s} Bxd5 {+M5/14 0s} 62. a5 {-M4/127 0s} Rxc2 {+M3/12 0s} 63.
a6 {-M2/1 0s} Qd2# {+M1/11 0s, Black mates} 0-1
[/pgn]

In my opinion, some brilliant engine games are better than world championship games. The flawless moves and deep combinations of these engines are amazing.

It's fun to watch athletic humans running in a race, but it is also fun to watch Ferrari's and McLarens racing too. That's like Human world championship chess and Engine Tournament.
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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: Rare beautiful games of the top engines

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

MikeGL wrote:The game below is a rare gem where Stockfish 8 having white pieces was crushed by black (Houdini 5). Houdini preferred piece activity/development and piece coordination in exchange for 2 pawns.

If there's a Brilliancy Prize for Engine Tournament, this could be a nominee or could even win that prize.
[pgn]
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Stockfish 8"]
[Black "Houdini 5.01"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "126"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 {book} e5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} Nf6 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Nc6 {book} 4.
Bb5 {book} Nd4 {book} 5. Ba4 {book} Bc5 {book} 6. Nxe5 {book} O-O {book} 7.
Nd3 {book} Bb6 {book} 8. Nf4 {book} c6 {book} 9. d3 {-0.23/32 165s} d5
{+0.04/24 163s} 10. h3 {-0.31/29 16s} a5 {+0.06/23 136s} 11. exd5 {0.00/26
45s} Re8+ {+0.20/23 65s} 12. Kf1 {-0.11/27 34s} Qd6 {+0.57/22 52s} 13. g4
{0.00/28 75s} h6 {+0.44/25 138s} 14. dxc6 {0.00/27 14s} bxc6 {+0.45/24 99s}
15. Ng2 {-0.12/31 158s} Ba6 {+0.39/23 229s} 16. Bf4 {0.00/27 69s} Qb4
{+0.25/24 164s} 17. Rb1 {0.00/27 91s} Rad8 {+0.28/24 83s} 18. a3 {0.00/31
88s} Qe7 {+0.39/23 65s} 19. Be3 {-0.33/32 600s} Qc7 {+0.51/24 142s} 20. Bf4
{-0.21/29 63s} Qd7 {+0.70/22 133s} 21. Be3 {-0.13/30 49s} Nd5 {+0.87/24
47s} 22. Bxd4 {-0.63/31 157s} Bxd4 {+0.87/23 0.016s} 23. Nxd5 {-0.39/27
13s} Qxd5 {+1.03/24 73s} 24. Kg1 {-0.85/31 211s} Rd6 {+1.15/23 0.14s} 25.
Nh4 {-0.78/29 66s} Rf6 {+1.24/24 41s} 26. Rh2 {-1.11/32 198s} g6 {+1.36/24
53s} 27. Rg2 {-1.52/32 179s} Ba7 {+1.51/22 51s} 28. Qd2 {-1.45/29 119s} Qe5
{+1.74/22 51s} 29. Qc3 {-1.55/31 89s} Bd4 {+2.00/22 43s} 30. Qd2 {-2.37/30
111s} Rb8 {+1.98/22 16s} 31. b4 {-1.89/27 51s} c5 {+2.15/23 43s} 32. Re1
{-2.88/31 192s} Qg5 {+2.40/25 55s} 33. Qxg5 {-2.95/32 173s} hxg5 {+2.43/25
77s} 34. Nxg6 {-3.29/32 232s} Rxg6 {+2.39/26 91s} 35. bxa5 {-3.39/30 113s}
Rf6 {+2.50/23 14s} 36. Rd1 {-3.63/32 339s} Kg7 {+2.89/23 47s} 37. Rc1
{-3.54/29 35s} Rb2 {+3.08/23 43s} 38. Rd1 {-4.22/32 220s} Bb7 {+3.21/25
52s} 39. Bb3 {-4.48/31 66s} Rf3 {+3.39/26 72s} 40. Rh2 {-4.56/32 46s} Be5
{+3.39/24 0.12s} 41. Rh1 {-4.70/31 29s} c4 {+4.84/26 66s} 42. dxc4
{-6.43/30 49s} Bg3 {+4.84/24 0s} 43. fxg3 {-6.36/27 3.9s} Rxg3+ {+5.57/25
42s} 44. Kf1 {-6.59/30 28s} Bxh1 {+5.84/27 47s} 45. Rd4 {-6.69/25 3.8s}
Bg2+ {+6.18/26 43s} 46. Ke1 {-7.96/30 38s} Bxh3 {+6.18/26 0s} 47. c5
{-8.38/31 50s} Rg2 {+9.10/25 43s} 48. Rd1 {-8.06/28 7.3s} Bxg4 {+81.52/25
47s} 49. Rc1 {-8.62/27 10s} Bf3 {+M67/34 59s} 50. c6 {-21.62/26 35s} Bxc6
{+M53/34 22s} 51. a4 {-54.38/29 18s} g4 {+M35/40 42s} 52. Kf1 {-M44/29 15s}
Rh2 {+M23/30 3.8s} 53. a6 {-M24/30 15s} g3 {+M21/28 0.25s} 54. a7 {-M20/33
9.6s} g2+ {+M19/27 0.34s} 55. Kf2 {-M18/34 2.8s} Rh1 {+M17/25 0s} 56. Rxh1
{-M16/37 12s} gxh1=Q {+M15/23 0s} 57. Ke3 {-M14/39 2.5s} Qe4+ {+M13/21
0.046s} 58. Kd2 {-M12/59 13s} Qf3 {+M11/20 0.032s} 59. a8=Q {-M10/66 13s}
Bxa8 {+M9/18 0.032s} 60. Bd5 {-M8/112 12s} Qf2+ {+M7/16 0.016s} 61. Kd3
{-M6/127 0.36s} Bxd5 {+M5/14 0s} 62. a5 {-M4/127 0s} Rxc2 {+M3/12 0s} 63.
a6 {-M2/1 0s} Qd2# {+M1/11 0s, Black mates} 0-1
[/pgn]

In my opinion, some brilliant engine games are better than world championship games. The flawless moves and deep combinations of these engines are amazing.

It's fun to watch athletic humans running in a race, but it is also fun to watch Ferrari's and McLarens racing too. That's like Human world championship chess and Engine Tournament.
no world champion would have played until mate, and that shows how much inferior engines are on the chess playing scale next to humans.

opening favoured too much black, also why did not SF play 11.0-0 instead of the obviously losing 11.ed5?

my personal opinion is that, while engines have indeed produced gems from time to time, this is not one of them. I really found nothing special in black's treatment of the game.
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MikeGL
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Re: Rare beautiful games of the top engines

Post by MikeGL »

Playing until checkmate is the tournament operators discretion. Resign
score can be set at the GUI or even at the Engine config to stop or resign
the game on a certain negative score, could be -7 or lower.
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sandermvdb
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Re: Rare beautiful games of the top engines

Post by sandermvdb »

I also think that people play more conservative whereas when an engine sees a best move, it goes for it!
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BrendanJNorman
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Re: Rare beautiful games of the top engines

Post by BrendanJNorman »

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: opening favoured too much black, also why did not SF play 11.0-0 instead of the obviously losing 11.ed5?

my personal opinion is that, while engines have indeed produced gems from time to time, this is not one of them. I really found nothing special in black's treatment of the game.
For once I think I'll have to agree with Lyudmil here.

This game just looks like a standard game between two super engines.

At this level, a lot of the really brilliant ideas get pruned away when the super engine sees a razor edge defense and assumes the opponent will too.

To see really brilliant computer chess, I usually goto my own engine personalities I've created like...

Rodent Topalov!

Look at the following games, against engines which are 2700+ on CCRL, so not weak, but lose brilliantly against a very realistic Topalov style.

For me at least, that's computer chess! :)

Rodent Topalov vs Hiarcs 10
[pgn][Event "Ratings for the Fellas"]
[Site "Microsoft"]
[Date "2017.04.12"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Rodent II 0.9.64 Topalov"]
[Black "Hiarcs 10"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D43"]
[WhiteElo "2251"]
[PlyCount "61"]
[EventDate "2017.04.12"]
[Source "Norman"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 h6 6. Bh4 dxc4 7. e4 g5 8. Bg3
Bb4 9. Bxc4 Nxe4 10. O-O Nxc3 11. bxc3 Bxc3 12. Rc1 Bb4 13. Ne5 h5 14. f4 Rh7
15. Nxf7 Rxf7 16. Qxh5 Qxd4+ 17. Kh1 Qg7 18. fxg5 Qh7 19. Qe2 Qg6 20. Rxf7 Qxf7
21. Rf1 Qg6 22. Qe5 Bf8 23. Qh8 Qg7 24. Qh5+ Ke7 25. Bc7 Na6 26. Bxa6 bxa6 27.
g6 Bb7 28. Be5 Qg8 29. Bf6+ Kd7 30. Rd1+ Bd6 31. Qc5 1-0[/pgn]

Rodent Topalov vs Zarkov 6.55
[pgn][Date "2017.04.12"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Rodent II 0.9.64 Topalov"]
[Black "Zarkov 6.55"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "E97"]
[WhiteElo "2251"]
[BlackElo "2314"]
[PlyCount "65"]
[EventDate "2017.04.12"]
[Source "Norman"]

1. d4 d6 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. c4 g6 4. Nc3 Bg7 5. e4 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. O-O Nc6 8. d5
Ne7 9. Bg5 Bd7 10. c5 dxc5 11. Nxe5 Nxe4 12. Nxe4 Bxe5 13. Nxc5 Bc8 14. Rc1 f6
15. Bh6 Rf7 16. Ne6 Qd7 17. f4 Bd6 18. Bd3 Nxd5 19. f5 g5 20. Qh5 Be5 21. Rcd1
Qd6 22. Be4 Qb6+ 23. Kh1 c6 24. Nxg5 fxg5 25. f6 Bxf6 26. Rxf6 Nxf6 27. Bxh7+
Kxh7 28. Qxf7+ Kxh6 29. Qxf6+ Kh5 30. Qf7+ Kg4 31. Qf3+ Kh4 32. g3+ Kh3 33.Qh5# 1-0[/pgn]

THESE are beautiful games of the top engines, although "top" is pretty subjective here. :lol:
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Re: Rare beautiful games of the top engines

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb »

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
MikeGL wrote:The game below is a rare gem where Stockfish 8 having white pieces was crushed by black (Houdini 5). Houdini preferred piece activity/development and piece coordination in exchange for 2 pawns.

If there's a Brilliancy Prize for Engine Tournament, this could be a nominee or could even win that prize.
[pgn]
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Stockfish 8"]
[Black "Houdini 5.01"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "126"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 {book} e5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} Nf6 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Nc6 {book} 4.
Bb5 {book} Nd4 {book} 5. Ba4 {book} Bc5 {book} 6. Nxe5 {book} O-O {book} 7.
Nd3 {book} Bb6 {book} 8. Nf4 {book} c6 {book} 9. d3 {-0.23/32 165s} d5
{+0.04/24 163s} 10. h3 {-0.31/29 16s} a5 {+0.06/23 136s} 11. exd5 {0.00/26
45s} Re8+ {+0.20/23 65s} 12. Kf1 {-0.11/27 34s} Qd6 {+0.57/22 52s} 13. g4
{0.00/28 75s} h6 {+0.44/25 138s} 14. dxc6 {0.00/27 14s} bxc6 {+0.45/24 99s}
15. Ng2 {-0.12/31 158s} Ba6 {+0.39/23 229s} 16. Bf4 {0.00/27 69s} Qb4
{+0.25/24 164s} 17. Rb1 {0.00/27 91s} Rad8 {+0.28/24 83s} 18. a3 {0.00/31
88s} Qe7 {+0.39/23 65s} 19. Be3 {-0.33/32 600s} Qc7 {+0.51/24 142s} 20. Bf4
{-0.21/29 63s} Qd7 {+0.70/22 133s} 21. Be3 {-0.13/30 49s} Nd5 {+0.87/24
47s} 22. Bxd4 {-0.63/31 157s} Bxd4 {+0.87/23 0.016s} 23. Nxd5 {-0.39/27
13s} Qxd5 {+1.03/24 73s} 24. Kg1 {-0.85/31 211s} Rd6 {+1.15/23 0.14s} 25.
Nh4 {-0.78/29 66s} Rf6 {+1.24/24 41s} 26. Rh2 {-1.11/32 198s} g6 {+1.36/24
53s} 27. Rg2 {-1.52/32 179s} Ba7 {+1.51/22 51s} 28. Qd2 {-1.45/29 119s} Qe5
{+1.74/22 51s} 29. Qc3 {-1.55/31 89s} Bd4 {+2.00/22 43s} 30. Qd2 {-2.37/30
111s} Rb8 {+1.98/22 16s} 31. b4 {-1.89/27 51s} c5 {+2.15/23 43s} 32. Re1
{-2.88/31 192s} Qg5 {+2.40/25 55s} 33. Qxg5 {-2.95/32 173s} hxg5 {+2.43/25
77s} 34. Nxg6 {-3.29/32 232s} Rxg6 {+2.39/26 91s} 35. bxa5 {-3.39/30 113s}
Rf6 {+2.50/23 14s} 36. Rd1 {-3.63/32 339s} Kg7 {+2.89/23 47s} 37. Rc1
{-3.54/29 35s} Rb2 {+3.08/23 43s} 38. Rd1 {-4.22/32 220s} Bb7 {+3.21/25
52s} 39. Bb3 {-4.48/31 66s} Rf3 {+3.39/26 72s} 40. Rh2 {-4.56/32 46s} Be5
{+3.39/24 0.12s} 41. Rh1 {-4.70/31 29s} c4 {+4.84/26 66s} 42. dxc4
{-6.43/30 49s} Bg3 {+4.84/24 0s} 43. fxg3 {-6.36/27 3.9s} Rxg3+ {+5.57/25
42s} 44. Kf1 {-6.59/30 28s} Bxh1 {+5.84/27 47s} 45. Rd4 {-6.69/25 3.8s}
Bg2+ {+6.18/26 43s} 46. Ke1 {-7.96/30 38s} Bxh3 {+6.18/26 0s} 47. c5
{-8.38/31 50s} Rg2 {+9.10/25 43s} 48. Rd1 {-8.06/28 7.3s} Bxg4 {+81.52/25
47s} 49. Rc1 {-8.62/27 10s} Bf3 {+M67/34 59s} 50. c6 {-21.62/26 35s} Bxc6
{+M53/34 22s} 51. a4 {-54.38/29 18s} g4 {+M35/40 42s} 52. Kf1 {-M44/29 15s}
Rh2 {+M23/30 3.8s} 53. a6 {-M24/30 15s} g3 {+M21/28 0.25s} 54. a7 {-M20/33
9.6s} g2+ {+M19/27 0.34s} 55. Kf2 {-M18/34 2.8s} Rh1 {+M17/25 0s} 56. Rxh1
{-M16/37 12s} gxh1=Q {+M15/23 0s} 57. Ke3 {-M14/39 2.5s} Qe4+ {+M13/21
0.046s} 58. Kd2 {-M12/59 13s} Qf3 {+M11/20 0.032s} 59. a8=Q {-M10/66 13s}
Bxa8 {+M9/18 0.032s} 60. Bd5 {-M8/112 12s} Qf2+ {+M7/16 0.016s} 61. Kd3
{-M6/127 0.36s} Bxd5 {+M5/14 0s} 62. a5 {-M4/127 0s} Rxc2 {+M3/12 0s} 63.
a6 {-M2/1 0s} Qd2# {+M1/11 0s, Black mates} 0-1
[/pgn]

In my opinion, some brilliant engine games are better than world championship games. The flawless moves and deep combinations of these engines are amazing.

It's fun to watch athletic humans running in a race, but it is also fun to watch Ferrari's and McLarens racing too. That's like Human world championship chess and Engine Tournament.
no world champion would have played until mate, and that shows how much inferior engines are on the chess playing scale next to humans.

opening favoured too much black, also why did not SF play 11.0-0 instead of the obviously losing 11.ed5?

my personal opinion is that, while engines have indeed produced gems from time to time, this is not one of them. I really found nothing special in black's treatment of the game.
Indeed Stockfish's 11th move illustrates clearly what I call the PED ....

Pawn Eating Disease ....
Dr.D :wink:
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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: Rare beautiful games of the top engines

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:
MikeGL wrote:The game below is a rare gem where Stockfish 8 having white pieces was crushed by black (Houdini 5). Houdini preferred piece activity/development and piece coordination in exchange for 2 pawns.

If there's a Brilliancy Prize for Engine Tournament, this could be a nominee or could even win that prize.
[pgn]
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Stockfish 8"]
[Black "Houdini 5.01"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "126"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 {book} e5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} Nf6 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Nc6 {book} 4.
Bb5 {book} Nd4 {book} 5. Ba4 {book} Bc5 {book} 6. Nxe5 {book} O-O {book} 7.
Nd3 {book} Bb6 {book} 8. Nf4 {book} c6 {book} 9. d3 {-0.23/32 165s} d5
{+0.04/24 163s} 10. h3 {-0.31/29 16s} a5 {+0.06/23 136s} 11. exd5 {0.00/26
45s} Re8+ {+0.20/23 65s} 12. Kf1 {-0.11/27 34s} Qd6 {+0.57/22 52s} 13. g4
{0.00/28 75s} h6 {+0.44/25 138s} 14. dxc6 {0.00/27 14s} bxc6 {+0.45/24 99s}
15. Ng2 {-0.12/31 158s} Ba6 {+0.39/23 229s} 16. Bf4 {0.00/27 69s} Qb4
{+0.25/24 164s} 17. Rb1 {0.00/27 91s} Rad8 {+0.28/24 83s} 18. a3 {0.00/31
88s} Qe7 {+0.39/23 65s} 19. Be3 {-0.33/32 600s} Qc7 {+0.51/24 142s} 20. Bf4
{-0.21/29 63s} Qd7 {+0.70/22 133s} 21. Be3 {-0.13/30 49s} Nd5 {+0.87/24
47s} 22. Bxd4 {-0.63/31 157s} Bxd4 {+0.87/23 0.016s} 23. Nxd5 {-0.39/27
13s} Qxd5 {+1.03/24 73s} 24. Kg1 {-0.85/31 211s} Rd6 {+1.15/23 0.14s} 25.
Nh4 {-0.78/29 66s} Rf6 {+1.24/24 41s} 26. Rh2 {-1.11/32 198s} g6 {+1.36/24
53s} 27. Rg2 {-1.52/32 179s} Ba7 {+1.51/22 51s} 28. Qd2 {-1.45/29 119s} Qe5
{+1.74/22 51s} 29. Qc3 {-1.55/31 89s} Bd4 {+2.00/22 43s} 30. Qd2 {-2.37/30
111s} Rb8 {+1.98/22 16s} 31. b4 {-1.89/27 51s} c5 {+2.15/23 43s} 32. Re1
{-2.88/31 192s} Qg5 {+2.40/25 55s} 33. Qxg5 {-2.95/32 173s} hxg5 {+2.43/25
77s} 34. Nxg6 {-3.29/32 232s} Rxg6 {+2.39/26 91s} 35. bxa5 {-3.39/30 113s}
Rf6 {+2.50/23 14s} 36. Rd1 {-3.63/32 339s} Kg7 {+2.89/23 47s} 37. Rc1
{-3.54/29 35s} Rb2 {+3.08/23 43s} 38. Rd1 {-4.22/32 220s} Bb7 {+3.21/25
52s} 39. Bb3 {-4.48/31 66s} Rf3 {+3.39/26 72s} 40. Rh2 {-4.56/32 46s} Be5
{+3.39/24 0.12s} 41. Rh1 {-4.70/31 29s} c4 {+4.84/26 66s} 42. dxc4
{-6.43/30 49s} Bg3 {+4.84/24 0s} 43. fxg3 {-6.36/27 3.9s} Rxg3+ {+5.57/25
42s} 44. Kf1 {-6.59/30 28s} Bxh1 {+5.84/27 47s} 45. Rd4 {-6.69/25 3.8s}
Bg2+ {+6.18/26 43s} 46. Ke1 {-7.96/30 38s} Bxh3 {+6.18/26 0s} 47. c5
{-8.38/31 50s} Rg2 {+9.10/25 43s} 48. Rd1 {-8.06/28 7.3s} Bxg4 {+81.52/25
47s} 49. Rc1 {-8.62/27 10s} Bf3 {+M67/34 59s} 50. c6 {-21.62/26 35s} Bxc6
{+M53/34 22s} 51. a4 {-54.38/29 18s} g4 {+M35/40 42s} 52. Kf1 {-M44/29 15s}
Rh2 {+M23/30 3.8s} 53. a6 {-M24/30 15s} g3 {+M21/28 0.25s} 54. a7 {-M20/33
9.6s} g2+ {+M19/27 0.34s} 55. Kf2 {-M18/34 2.8s} Rh1 {+M17/25 0s} 56. Rxh1
{-M16/37 12s} gxh1=Q {+M15/23 0s} 57. Ke3 {-M14/39 2.5s} Qe4+ {+M13/21
0.046s} 58. Kd2 {-M12/59 13s} Qf3 {+M11/20 0.032s} 59. a8=Q {-M10/66 13s}
Bxa8 {+M9/18 0.032s} 60. Bd5 {-M8/112 12s} Qf2+ {+M7/16 0.016s} 61. Kd3
{-M6/127 0.36s} Bxd5 {+M5/14 0s} 62. a5 {-M4/127 0s} Rxc2 {+M3/12 0s} 63.
a6 {-M2/1 0s} Qd2# {+M1/11 0s, Black mates} 0-1
[/pgn]

In my opinion, some brilliant engine games are better than world championship games. The flawless moves and deep combinations of these engines are amazing.

It's fun to watch athletic humans running in a race, but it is also fun to watch Ferrari's and McLarens racing too. That's like Human world championship chess and Engine Tournament.
no world champion would have played until mate, and that shows how much inferior engines are on the chess playing scale next to humans.

opening favoured too much black, also why did not SF play 11.0-0 instead of the obviously losing 11.ed5?

my personal opinion is that, while engines have indeed produced gems from time to time, this is not one of them. I really found nothing special in black's treatment of the game.
Indeed Stockfish's 11th move illustrates clearly what I call the PED ....

Pawn Eating Disease ....
Dr.D :wink:
earlier or late stage?

I guess this time it was just a 'LIN' (lost in nodes) syndrome. :)

nowadays, top engines almost never eat pawns without compensation.
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Re: Rare beautiful games of the top engines

Post by MikeGL »

BrendanJNorman wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: opening favoured too much black, also why did not SF play 11.0-0 instead of the obviously losing 11.ed5?

my personal opinion is that, while engines have indeed produced gems from time to time, this is not one of them. I really found nothing special in black's treatment of the game.
For once I think I'll have to agree with Lyudmil here.

This game just looks like a standard game between two super engines.

At this level, a lot of the really brilliant ideas get pruned away when the super engine sees a razor edge defense and assumes the opponent will too.

To see really brilliant computer chess, I usually goto my own engine personalities I've created like...

Rodent Topalov!

Look at the following games, against engines which are 2700+ on CCRL, so not weak, but lose brilliantly against a very realistic Topalov style.

For me at least, that's computer chess! :)
Those games of Rodent you've posted are truly beautiful too.
The below game is won by SF8 as black against Houdini 5 this time. SF8 has material deficit but with piece mobility/activity.

[pgn]
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Houdini 5.01"]
[Black "Stockfish 8"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "156"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. g3 {book} g6 {book} 2. Bg2 {book} Bg7 {book} 3. c4 {book} c5 {book} 4.
Nc3 {book} Nc6 {book} 5. b3 {book} e6 {book} 6. Bxc6 {book} bxc6 {book} 7.
Bb2 {book} d6 {book} 8. d3 {book} e5 {book} 9. Qd2 {-0.37/25 247s} Nf6
{+0.22/29 139s} 10. f3 {-0.49/23 103s} O-O {+0.34/28 351s} 11. g4 {-0.32/24
71s} a5 {+0.26/29 289s} 12. Qg5 {-0.31/24 92s} h6 {+0.56/24 45s} 13. Qh4
{-0.23/22 73s} d5 {+0.18/30 571s} 14. Na4 {-0.30/23 97s} dxc4 {+0.35/26
79s} 15. dxc4 {-0.22/24 82s} e4 {+0.19/31 115s} 16. Rd1 {-0.13/25 57s} Qe7
{+0.16/28 14s} 17. f4 {-0.13/26 26s} Bxg4 {+0.44/31 66s} 18. Bxf6 {-0.13/28
92s} Qxf6 {+0.52/33 152s} 19. Qxg4 {-0.13/28 0.031s} Rfd8 {+0.56/28 13s}
20. Rb1 {-0.11/28 70s} Qd4 {+0.73/30 48s} 21. Kf1 {-0.67/27 146s} Qd2
{+0.70/32 105s} 22. Re1 {-0.98/23 27s} Qxa2 {+0.56/29 29s} 23. Qg3
{-0.90/26 110s} Qc2 {+0.79/32 182s} 24. Nxc5 {-0.46/25 60s} a4 {+0.98/28
44s} 25. Nxa4 {-1.37/24 165s} Rdb8 {+1.67/30 64s} 26. Qh4 {-1.23/26 183s}
Ra7 {+1.61/28 87s} 27. Nc5 {-1.37/27 99s} Bd4 {+1.81/30 101s} 28. Ne6
{-1.40/26 69s} fxe6 {+1.54/28 14s} 29. Qxh6 {-1.40/25 0.19s} Rg7 {+1.70/31
45s} 30. Kg2 {-1.34/26 55s} Qxb3 {+1.71/32 158s} 31. Qg5 {-1.13/24 46s}
Qxc4 {+1.63/31 166s} 32. Qg4 {-1.21/27 111s} Rb2 {+1.90/29 40s} 33. h4
{-1.62/26 125s} Qd5 {+2.12/26 14s} 34. Nh3 {-1.68/26 87s} Qf5 {+2.11/31
112s} 35. Qxf5 {-1.73/28 167s} exf5 {+2.22/29 12s} 36. Ng5 {-1.95/26 118s}
Ra7 {+2.41/30 50s} 37. Kf1 {-1.88/27 73s} Be3 {+2.48/33 77s} 38. Rd1
{-2.12/29 162s} Rd2 {+2.40/32 11s} 39. Rxd2 {-2.27/29 97s} Bxd2 {+2.58/32
42s} 40. Kg2 {-2.25/28 66s} Bxf4 {+2.55/27 18s} 41. Ne6 {-2.27/29 90s} Be3
{+2.96/29 33s} 42. Rb1 {-2.83/27 120s} c5 {+3.06/28 30s} 43. Rb3 {-2.88/24
17s} Bd4 {+3.42/29 37s} 44. e3 {-2.93/27 81s} Bf6 {+3.41/28 18s} 45. Nxc5
{-2.88/26 29s} Bxh4 {+3.99/30 67s} 46. Ne6 {-3.52/27 137s} Kf7 {+4.46/29
26s} 47. Nd4 {-4.00/28 116s} Ra2+ {+4.97/28 64s} 48. Kh3 {-4.89/29 217s}
Bf6 {+5.20/28 30s} 49. Rb7+ {-4.81/27 32s} Kg8 {+5.25/27 8.9s} 50. Ne6
{-5.03/27 77s} Re2 {+5.64/29 67s} 51. Nf4 {-5.37/27 82s} Rxe3+ {+5.85/27
42s} 52. Kg2 {-5.39/27 33s} Bh4 {+5.83/24 9.2s} 53. Kg1 {-5.70/28 82s} Rf3
{+6.41/27 34s} 54. Ne6 {-5.61/28 70s} Bf6 {+6.88/27 24s} 55. Kg2 {-6.62/26
65s} g5 {+7.23/25 21s} 56. Nc7 {-6.40/22 33s} Kf7 {+7.72/26 29s} 57. Nd5+
{-6.35/23 26s} Ke6 {+8.89/29 72s} 58. Nc7+ {-7.52/24 51s} Kd7 {+9.08/25
9.3s} 59. Na6+ {-8.56/24 68s} Kc6 {+9.87/27 33s} 60. Rb1 {-8.59/25 81s} g4
{+11.26/25 36s} 61. Nb4+ {-8.56/20 15s} Kc5 {+14.04/27 44s} 62. Na6+
{-9.68/21 15s} Kd4 {+15.80/26 24s} 63. Rb6 {-9.17/21 11s} Be5 {+55.70/27
25s} 64. Rb4+ {-75.80/28 19s} Kc3 {+107.63/29 22s} 65. Rb5 {-M54/28 15s}
Bd4 {+M33/36 19s} 66. Nc5 {-M30/36 9.4s} e3 {+M29/43 30s} 67. Rb3+ {-M28/35
0.81s} Kc2 {+M23/49 52s} 68. Ne6 {-M26/33 0.031s} Bc3 {+M21/53 30s} 69.
Rxc3+ {-M22/29 1.3s} Kxc3 {+M19/72 28s} 70. Ng5 {-M20/28 0.016s} e2
{+M17/73 7.5s} 71. Nxf3 {-M18/26 0.015s} gxf3+ {+M15/81 35s} 72. Kxf3
{-M16/24 0s} e1=Q {+M13/79 11s} 73. Kf4 {-M14/22 0s} Qe6 {+M11/87 128s} 74.
Kg5 {-M12/20 0.015s} Kd3 {+M9/99 172s} 75. Kf4 {-M8/18 0.016s} Ke2 {+M7/127
0.88s} 76. Kg5 {-M6/15 0s} Kf3 {+M5/127 0.015s} 77. Kh5 {-M4/13 0s} Kf4
{+M3/127 0s} 78. Kh4 {-M2/1 0s} Qh6# {+M1/127 0s, Black mates} 0-1
[/pgn]


Having a material deficit and still winning against a Top 5 engine in a long time control is not common. That's why I consider these games beautiful. Rare to find these types of games, because most of the time a single pawn deficit can already mean a lost game at this 3200+ level.
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Re: Rare beautiful games of the top engines

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[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Stockfish 8"]
[Black "Houdini 5.01"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "126"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. e4 {book} e5 {book} 2. Nf3 {book} Nf6 {book} 3. Nc3 {book} Nc6 {book} 4.
Bb5 {book} Nd4 {book} 5. Ba4 {book} Bc5 {book} 6. Nxe5 {book} O-O {book} 7.
Nd3 {book} Bb6 {book} 8. Nf4 {book} c6 {book} 9. d3 {-0.23/32 165s} d5
{+0.04/24 163s} 10. h3 {-0.31/29 16s} a5 {+0.06/23 136s} 11. exd5 {0.00/26
45s} Re8+ {+0.20/23 65s} 12. Kf1 {-0.11/27 34s} Qd6 {+0.57/22 52s} 13. g4
{0.00/28 75s} h6 {+0.44/25 138s} 14. dxc6 {0.00/27 14s} bxc6 {+0.45/24 99s}
15. Ng2 {-0.12/31 158s} Ba6 {+0.39/23 229s} 16. Bf4 {0.00/27 69s} Qb4
{+0.25/24 164s} 17. Rb1 {0.00/27 91s} Rad8 {+0.28/24 83s} 18. a3 {0.00/31
88s} Qe7 {+0.39/23 65s} 19. Be3 {-0.33/32 600s} Qc7 {+0.51/24 142s} 20. Bf4
{-0.21/29 63s} Qd7 {+0.70/22 133s} 21. Be3 {-0.13/30 49s} Nd5 {+0.87/24
47s} 22. Bxd4 {-0.63/31 157s} Bxd4 {+0.87/23 0.016s} 23. Nxd5 {-0.39/27
13s} Qxd5 {+1.03/24 73s} 24. Kg1 {-0.85/31 211s} Rd6 {+1.15/23 0.14s} 25.
Nh4 {-0.78/29 66s} Rf6 {+1.24/24 41s} 26. Rh2 {-1.11/32 198s} g6 {+1.36/24
53s} 27. Rg2 {-1.52/32 179s} Ba7 {+1.51/22 51s} 28. Qd2 {-1.45/29 119s} Qe5
{+1.74/22 51s} 29. Qc3 {-1.55/31 89s} Bd4 {+2.00/22 43s} 30. Qd2 {-2.37/30
111s} Rb8 {+1.98/22 16s} 31. b4 {-1.89/27 51s} c5 {+2.15/23 43s} 32. Re1
{-2.88/31 192s} Qg5 {+2.40/25 55s} 33. Qxg5 {-2.95/32 173s} hxg5 {+2.43/25
77s} 34. Nxg6 {-3.29/32 232s} Rxg6 {+2.39/26 91s} 35. bxa5 {-3.39/30 113s}
Rf6 {+2.50/23 14s} 36. Rd1 {-3.63/32 339s} Kg7 {+2.89/23 47s} 37. Rc1
{-3.54/29 35s} Rb2 {+3.08/23 43s} 38. Rd1 {-4.22/32 220s} Bb7 {+3.21/25
52s} 39. Bb3 {-4.48/31 66s} Rf3 {+3.39/26 72s} 40. Rh2 {-4.56/32 46s} Be5
{+3.39/24 0.12s} 41. Rh1 {-4.70/31 29s} c4 {+4.84/26 66s} 42. dxc4
{-6.43/30 49s} Bg3 {+4.84/24 0s} 43. fxg3 {-6.36/27 3.9s} Rxg3+ {+5.57/25
42s} 44. Kf1 {-6.59/30 28s} Bxh1 {+5.84/27 47s} 45. Rd4 {-6.69/25 3.8s}
Bg2+ {+6.18/26 43s} 46. Ke1 {-7.96/30 38s} Bxh3 {+6.18/26 0s} 47. c5
{-8.38/31 50s} Rg2 {+9.10/25 43s} 48. Rd1 {-8.06/28 7.3s} Bxg4 {+81.52/25
47s} 49. Rc1 {-8.62/27 10s} Bf3 {+M67/34 59s} 50. c6 {-21.62/26 35s} Bxc6
{+M53/34 22s} 51. a4 {-54.38/29 18s} g4 {+M35/40 42s} 52. Kf1 {-M44/29 15s}
Rh2 {+M23/30 3.8s} 53. a6 {-M24/30 15s} g3 {+M21/28 0.25s} 54. a7 {-M20/33
9.6s} g2+ {+M19/27 0.34s} 55. Kf2 {-M18/34 2.8s} Rh1 {+M17/25 0s} 56. Rxh1
{-M16/37 12s} gxh1=Q {+M15/23 0s} 57. Ke3 {-M14/39 2.5s} Qe4+ {+M13/21
0.046s} 58. Kd2 {-M12/59 13s} Qf3 {+M11/20 0.032s} 59. a8=Q {-M10/66 13s}
Bxa8 {+M9/18 0.032s} 60. Bd5 {-M8/112 12s} Qf2+ {+M7/16 0.016s} 61. Kd3
{-M6/127 0.36s} Bxd5 {+M5/14 0s} 62. a5 {-M4/127 0s} Rxc2 {+M3/12 0s} 63.
a6 {-M2/1 0s} Qd2# {+M1/11 0s, Black mates} 0-1
...
opening favoured too much black, also why did not SF play 11.0-0 instead of the obviously losing 11.ed5?
...
Dr.Wael Deeb wrote: Indeed Stockfish's 11th move illustrates clearly what I call the PED ....

Pawn Eating Disease ....
Dr.D :wink:
Yes a Human wonders instantly about 11. exd5? and obviously SF8 needs an enormous depth to refrain from that move
(if ever - still thinking about it in depth 33 here after >600M nodes!
edit: between d33/34 it changes to 11. a3 ;-) still at it after > 1.4B nodes at depth 36)

OTH the forced opening line seems to be bad for White and according to my database strong GMs did not play 7. Nf4?! anymore after 2007.
(third move with same N in a row for the mere e5 pawn and opening the e-file)
And the overall score in that database is only 43% when 7. e5 has a stable and more normal percentage of 54.4% for White.

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M     N   %    Y
7.e5  239 54.4 2016
7.Nf4  43 43.0 2007
7.O-O   9 44.4 -
SF8 itself conders 7. Nf4?! only for a very few seconds at depth 24, otherwise nothing else before or afterwards than 7. e5.

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 35	+0.24!	319.9M	7:44.93	e5!
 35	+0.17!	308.6M	7:28.48	e5!
 34	+0.10 	292.6M	7:04.90	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Bc7 c3 Nf5 Re1 dxe5 Nxe5 Bxe5 Nxf5 Bxh2+ Kxh2 Bxf5 d4 Qh4+ Kg1 Nd6 Bb3 a5 a4 Be4 Be3 Nf5 Bg5 Qxg5 Rxe4 Rae8 Qf3 Nd6 Rf4 Qe7 Qd3 Qe2 Bc2 Qxd3 Bxd3
 34	+0.06?	269.7M	6:31.04	e5 Ne8?
 34	+0.13?	252.7M	6:04.53	e5 Ne8?
 33	+0.20 	228.4M	5:26.99	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Bc7 c3 Ne6 f4 dxe5 Nxe5 Nxf4 d4 Bxe5 dxe5 Qxd1 Bxd1 Nd3 Nc4 Be6 Na5 Nc7 Nxb7 Nxb2 Be2 Nc4 Bxc4 Bxc4 Rf2 Be6 Nd6 Nb5 Bd2 Rfd8
 33	+0.18!	197.7M	4:42.17	e5!
 33	+0.11!	191.8M	4:33.54	e5!
 32	+0.04 	179.1M	4:15.20	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Bc7 c3 Ne6 f4 dxe5 Nxe5 Nxf4 d4 Bxe5 dxe5 Qxd1 Bxd1 Nd3 Nc4 Be6 Na5 Nc7 Nxb7 Nxb2 Bxb2 Rfb8 Na5 Rxb2 Nxc6 Nd5 Bb3 Nxc3 Rf2 Rxf2 Kxf2 Re8 Re1 Nxa2
 32	+0.10?	166.7M	3:57.54	e5 Ne8?
 32	+0.17?	161.7M	3:50.50	e5 Ne8?
 31	+0.25 	152.6M	3:37.55	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Bc7 c3 Ne6 f4 dxe5 Nxe5 Nxf4 d4 Bxe5 dxe5 Qxd1 Bxd1 Nd3 Nc4 Be6 Na5 Nc7 Nxb7 Nxc1 Rxc1 Rfb8 Na5 Rxb2 Bf3 Rxa2 Nxc6 Re8 Rb1 Bc4 Rfd1 Nb5 Rb4 Nxc3 Rxc4 Nxd1 Bxd1
 31	+0.19!	128.2M	3:02.38	e5!
 31	+0.08!	125.1M	2:58.09	e5!
 31	+0.01!	123.3M	2:55.58	e5!
 30	 -0.05 	119.6M	2:50.18	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Bc7 c3 Ne6 f4 dxe5 Nxe5 Nxf4 d4 Bxe5 dxe5 Qxd1 Bxd1 Nd3 Nc4 Be6 Na5 Nc7 Nxb7 Nxc1 Rxc1 Rab8 Na5 Rxb2 Bb3 Bd5 Rf2 Rxf2 Kxf2 Re8 Re1 Ne6 Bxd5
 30	  0.00?	97.9M  	2:19.50	e5 Ne8?
 29	+0.07 	92.8M  	2:12.28	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Bc7 f4 b5 Bb3 a5 c3 Nxb3 axb3 f6 exd6 Qxd6 Ne1 Bb6 d4 c5 dxc5 Bxc5 Nc2 Bb7 Nd4 Qb6 Nef5 Nd6 Nxd6 Qxd6 Be3 Qd5 Qe2 Rfe8 Rfe1
 29	+0.06?	86.5M  	2:03.23	e5 Ne8?
 29	+0.13?	84.4M  	2:00.28	e5 Ne8?
 28	+0.20 	80.7M  	1:55.13	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Bc7 c3 Ne6 f4 dxe5 Nxe5 Nxf4 d4 Bxe5 dxe5 Qxd1 Bxd1 Nd3 b3 Nxc1 Rxc1 Be6 Bc2 Nc7 Rcd1 Rad8 h3 g6 c4 Rxd1 Rxd1
 28	+0.22?	74.9M  	1:46.81	e5 Ne8?
 28	+0.32!	71.0M  	1:41.19	e5!
 28	+0.21!	69.0M  	1:38.38	e5!
 28	+0.14!	66.5M  	1:34.92	e5!
 27	+0.06 	63.4M  	1:30.10	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Bc7 f4 b5 Bb3 a5 c3 Nxb3 axb3 f6 exd6 Nxd6 Nc5 Nb7 Nxb7 Bxb7 b4 Re8 bxa5 Bxa5 d4 Bc7 Rxa8 Qxa8 Qb3+ Kh8
 27	+0.22?	57.4M  	1:21.22	e5 Ne8?
 27	+0.35!	52.9M  	1:14.55	e5!
 27	+0.12?	47.3M  	1:06.50	e5 Ne8?
 27	+0.20?	45.6M  	1:04.16	e5 Ne8?
 26	+0.27 	43.4M  	1:01.02	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Nf5 exd6 Nexd6 Nf4 Nxe3 fxe3 Qg5 Qh5 Qxh5 Nxh5 Re8 Ng3 Be6 Bb3 Bxb3 axb3 a6 Ne2 Re6 Ra4 Rg6
 26	+0.28!	40.5M  	0:56.96	e5!
 26	+0.16?	38.6M  	0:54.27	e5 Ne8?
 26	+0.25!	32.2M  	0:45.30	e5!
 26	+0.14!	30.9M  	0:43.43	e5!
 26	+0.07!	30.3M  	0:42.54	e5!
 25	  0.00 	27.9M  	0:39.23	e5 c6 exf6 Re8+ Kf1 Qxf6 h4 d6 a3 Ne2 Qxe2 Rxe2 Nxe2 Bg4 Nef4 Re8 f3 Bf5 c3 Bc7 Bd1 d5 g4 Bd7 Nh5 Qe7 Nhf4 Qf6
 24	  0.00 	24.5M  	0:34.43	Nf4 c6 O-O Bc7 d3 b5 Bb3 a5 a3 Nxb3 cxb3 Re8 Nh5 Nxh5 Qxh5 Ba6 b4 axb4 axb4 Bd6 Qg4 g6 Be3 Bxb4 Bd4 Bd6 g3
 24	+0.09?	23.4M  	0:32.91	Nf4 c6?
 24	+0.18!	22.4M  	0:31.61	Nf4!
 24	+0.11?	12.9M  	0:18.09	e5 Ne8?
 24	+0.18?	12.3M  	0:17.18	e5 Ne8?
 23	+0.26!	11.2M  	0:15.66	e5!
 23	+0.09?	9.97M  	0:13.95	e5 Ne8?
 23	+0.30?	9.09M  	0:12.74	e5 Ne8?
 23	+0.39!	8.46M  	0:11.85	e5!
 23	+0.29!	7.85M  	0:10.97	e5!
 23	+0.21!	7.64M  	0:10.70	e5!
 22	+0.14?	6.49M  	0:09.08	e5 Ne8?
 22	+0.16?	6.16M  	0:08.64	e5 Ne8?
 22	+0.24!	4.85M  	0:06.81	e5!
 21	+0.16 	4.26M  	0:05.97	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Nf5 exd6 Nexd6 Nf4 Re8 c3 Nxe3 dxe3 Qe7 Bb3 g6 h4 Bf5 h5 Rad8 h6 Ne4
 21	+0.17?	3.78M  	0:05.30	e5 Ne8?
 20	+0.24 	3.44M  	0:04.82	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Nf5 exd6 Nexd6 Nf4 Re8 c3 Nxe3 dxe3 Qe7 Bb3 g6 Qe2 Ne4 a4 a5 Rd1 Bf5 Qf3
 20	+0.18!	3.14M  	0:04.40	e5!
 20	+0.17!	2.35M  	0:03.28	e5!
 20	+0.10!	2.32M  	0:03.26	e5!
 19	+0.02 	2.11M  	0:02.95	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Nf5 Nc4 Bc7 exd6 Nexd6 Nce5 Qh4 Bb3 Ne4 c3 a5 Nf3 Qf6 Re1 Re8 g3 a4
 18	  0.00 	1.45M  	0:02.03	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O Nf5 Bb3 Nd4 Ba4
 17	+0.10 	789802	0:01.11	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 c3 Nf5 O-O Nxe3 dxe3 Bf5 exd6 Qxd6 Nf4 Qxd1 Rxd1 Nc7 c4 Rad8
 16	+0.19 	652858	0:00.93	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 O-O dxe5 Nxe5 Bc7 f4 Ne6 Bb3 Nxf4 d4 Bxe5 dxe5 Qxd1 Nxd1 Ng6
 15	+0.13 	444109	0:00.63	e5 Ne8 Nd5 c6 Ne3 d6 c3 Nf5 O-O Nxe3 dxe3 dxe5 Nxe5 Nd6 Bc2 Re8 Nf3 Bg4
 14	+0.10 	236271	0:00.34	e5 Ne8 O-O d6 Re1 c6 Ne4 d5 Ng3 Nf5 b4 Nxg3 hxg3 a5 c3 Nc7 Ba3 axb4 Bxb4
 13	+0.40 	107426	0:00.16	e5 Ne8 O-O d6 Re1 dxe5 Nxe5 c6 d3 Nd6 Ne4 Nxe4 Rxe4 f6 Nc4 Bf5 Nxb6 axb6
 12	+0.44 	58354  	0:00.09	e5 Ne8 O-O d6 Re1 f6 exd6 Nxd6 b4 c6 Nc5 Re8 Rxe8+ Qxe8 d3
 11	+0.51 	22569  	0:00.04	e5 Ne8 O-O d6 Re1 Bf5 b3 c6 Ba3 Bxd3 cxd3 a6
 10	+0.60 	17677  	0:00.03	e5 Ne8 O-O d6 Re1 Bf5 b3 c6 Bb2 Bxd3 cxd3
  9	+0.52 	8475    	0:00.02	e5 Ne8 Nd5 d6 Nxb6 axb6 c3 Bf5 cxd4
  8	+0.59 	3913    	0:00.01	e5 c6 O-O Ne8 Ne2 Nxe2+ Qxe2 d6 c3 dxe5
  7	+0.64 	3009    	0:00.01	e5 c6 O-O Ne8 Ne2 d6 Nxd4 Bxd4
  6	+1.75 	1105    	0:00.00	e5 c5 O-O Ne8 Nd5 c4
  5	+1.94 	471      	0:00.00	e5 c5 O-O c4 exf6
  4	+1.94 	333      	0:00.00	e5 c5 O-O c4 exf6 cxd3 fxg7 Kxg7 cxd3
  3	+1.08 	166      	0:00.00	e5 c6 O-O
  2	+0.61 	89        	0:00.00	e5 c6
  1	+0.87 	31        	0:00.00	O-O
  0	#
(Note: all analysis done with 1 cpu for comparable results and 256M hash - was too lazy to change it...)

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Lyudmil Tsvetkov
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Re: Rare beautiful games of the top engines

Post by Lyudmil Tsvetkov »

MikeGL wrote:
BrendanJNorman wrote:
Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote: opening favoured too much black, also why did not SF play 11.0-0 instead of the obviously losing 11.ed5?

my personal opinion is that, while engines have indeed produced gems from time to time, this is not one of them. I really found nothing special in black's treatment of the game.
For once I think I'll have to agree with Lyudmil here.

This game just looks like a standard game between two super engines.

At this level, a lot of the really brilliant ideas get pruned away when the super engine sees a razor edge defense and assumes the opponent will too.

To see really brilliant computer chess, I usually goto my own engine personalities I've created like...

Rodent Topalov!

Look at the following games, against engines which are 2700+ on CCRL, so not weak, but lose brilliantly against a very realistic Topalov style.

For me at least, that's computer chess! :)
Those games of Rodent you've posted are truly beautiful too.
The below game is won by SF8 as black against Houdini 5 this time. SF8 has material deficit but with piece mobility/activity.

[pgn]
[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Houdini 5.01"]
[Black "Stockfish 8"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "3600+15"]
[Termination "normal"]
[PlyCount "156"]
[WhiteType "human"]
[BlackType "human"]

1. g3 {book} g6 {book} 2. Bg2 {book} Bg7 {book} 3. c4 {book} c5 {book} 4.
Nc3 {book} Nc6 {book} 5. b3 {book} e6 {book} 6. Bxc6 {book} bxc6 {book} 7.
Bb2 {book} d6 {book} 8. d3 {book} e5 {book} 9. Qd2 {-0.37/25 247s} Nf6
{+0.22/29 139s} 10. f3 {-0.49/23 103s} O-O {+0.34/28 351s} 11. g4 {-0.32/24
71s} a5 {+0.26/29 289s} 12. Qg5 {-0.31/24 92s} h6 {+0.56/24 45s} 13. Qh4
{-0.23/22 73s} d5 {+0.18/30 571s} 14. Na4 {-0.30/23 97s} dxc4 {+0.35/26
79s} 15. dxc4 {-0.22/24 82s} e4 {+0.19/31 115s} 16. Rd1 {-0.13/25 57s} Qe7
{+0.16/28 14s} 17. f4 {-0.13/26 26s} Bxg4 {+0.44/31 66s} 18. Bxf6 {-0.13/28
92s} Qxf6 {+0.52/33 152s} 19. Qxg4 {-0.13/28 0.031s} Rfd8 {+0.56/28 13s}
20. Rb1 {-0.11/28 70s} Qd4 {+0.73/30 48s} 21. Kf1 {-0.67/27 146s} Qd2
{+0.70/32 105s} 22. Re1 {-0.98/23 27s} Qxa2 {+0.56/29 29s} 23. Qg3
{-0.90/26 110s} Qc2 {+0.79/32 182s} 24. Nxc5 {-0.46/25 60s} a4 {+0.98/28
44s} 25. Nxa4 {-1.37/24 165s} Rdb8 {+1.67/30 64s} 26. Qh4 {-1.23/26 183s}
Ra7 {+1.61/28 87s} 27. Nc5 {-1.37/27 99s} Bd4 {+1.81/30 101s} 28. Ne6
{-1.40/26 69s} fxe6 {+1.54/28 14s} 29. Qxh6 {-1.40/25 0.19s} Rg7 {+1.70/31
45s} 30. Kg2 {-1.34/26 55s} Qxb3 {+1.71/32 158s} 31. Qg5 {-1.13/24 46s}
Qxc4 {+1.63/31 166s} 32. Qg4 {-1.21/27 111s} Rb2 {+1.90/29 40s} 33. h4
{-1.62/26 125s} Qd5 {+2.12/26 14s} 34. Nh3 {-1.68/26 87s} Qf5 {+2.11/31
112s} 35. Qxf5 {-1.73/28 167s} exf5 {+2.22/29 12s} 36. Ng5 {-1.95/26 118s}
Ra7 {+2.41/30 50s} 37. Kf1 {-1.88/27 73s} Be3 {+2.48/33 77s} 38. Rd1
{-2.12/29 162s} Rd2 {+2.40/32 11s} 39. Rxd2 {-2.27/29 97s} Bxd2 {+2.58/32
42s} 40. Kg2 {-2.25/28 66s} Bxf4 {+2.55/27 18s} 41. Ne6 {-2.27/29 90s} Be3
{+2.96/29 33s} 42. Rb1 {-2.83/27 120s} c5 {+3.06/28 30s} 43. Rb3 {-2.88/24
17s} Bd4 {+3.42/29 37s} 44. e3 {-2.93/27 81s} Bf6 {+3.41/28 18s} 45. Nxc5
{-2.88/26 29s} Bxh4 {+3.99/30 67s} 46. Ne6 {-3.52/27 137s} Kf7 {+4.46/29
26s} 47. Nd4 {-4.00/28 116s} Ra2+ {+4.97/28 64s} 48. Kh3 {-4.89/29 217s}
Bf6 {+5.20/28 30s} 49. Rb7+ {-4.81/27 32s} Kg8 {+5.25/27 8.9s} 50. Ne6
{-5.03/27 77s} Re2 {+5.64/29 67s} 51. Nf4 {-5.37/27 82s} Rxe3+ {+5.85/27
42s} 52. Kg2 {-5.39/27 33s} Bh4 {+5.83/24 9.2s} 53. Kg1 {-5.70/28 82s} Rf3
{+6.41/27 34s} 54. Ne6 {-5.61/28 70s} Bf6 {+6.88/27 24s} 55. Kg2 {-6.62/26
65s} g5 {+7.23/25 21s} 56. Nc7 {-6.40/22 33s} Kf7 {+7.72/26 29s} 57. Nd5+
{-6.35/23 26s} Ke6 {+8.89/29 72s} 58. Nc7+ {-7.52/24 51s} Kd7 {+9.08/25
9.3s} 59. Na6+ {-8.56/24 68s} Kc6 {+9.87/27 33s} 60. Rb1 {-8.59/25 81s} g4
{+11.26/25 36s} 61. Nb4+ {-8.56/20 15s} Kc5 {+14.04/27 44s} 62. Na6+
{-9.68/21 15s} Kd4 {+15.80/26 24s} 63. Rb6 {-9.17/21 11s} Be5 {+55.70/27
25s} 64. Rb4+ {-75.80/28 19s} Kc3 {+107.63/29 22s} 65. Rb5 {-M54/28 15s}
Bd4 {+M33/36 19s} 66. Nc5 {-M30/36 9.4s} e3 {+M29/43 30s} 67. Rb3+ {-M28/35
0.81s} Kc2 {+M23/49 52s} 68. Ne6 {-M26/33 0.031s} Bc3 {+M21/53 30s} 69.
Rxc3+ {-M22/29 1.3s} Kxc3 {+M19/72 28s} 70. Ng5 {-M20/28 0.016s} e2
{+M17/73 7.5s} 71. Nxf3 {-M18/26 0.015s} gxf3+ {+M15/81 35s} 72. Kxf3
{-M16/24 0s} e1=Q {+M13/79 11s} 73. Kf4 {-M14/22 0s} Qe6 {+M11/87 128s} 74.
Kg5 {-M12/20 0.015s} Kd3 {+M9/99 172s} 75. Kf4 {-M8/18 0.016s} Ke2 {+M7/127
0.88s} 76. Kg5 {-M6/15 0s} Kf3 {+M5/127 0.015s} 77. Kh5 {-M4/13 0s} Kf4
{+M3/127 0s} 78. Kh4 {-M2/1 0s} Qh6# {+M1/127 0s, Black mates} 0-1
[/pgn]


Having a material deficit and still winning against a Top 5 engine in a long time control is not common. That's why I consider these games beautiful. Rare to find these types of games, because most of the time a single pawn deficit can already mean a lost game at this 3200+ level.
thanks Mike, for posting this.

I liked this game better.

still, quite probably, at the end of the book:

[d]r1bqk1nr/p4pbp/2pp2p1/2p1p3/2P5/1PNP2P1/PB2PP1P/R2QK1NR w KQkq - 0 9

white is already lost.

that is why I hate any book longer than 1 and a half moves.
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