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Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 8:42 am
by mehmet karaman
According to your tests how many elo stronger than Komodo 10.4?

Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:36 am
by mjlef
AdminX wrote:@Larry or Mark

Can you provide details on the new setting options.

PS: Time for me to renew, what are the discounts? :D

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I checked with Chessbase and they did release the right version (whew!). The screen shot was in the German online manual, and was a screenshot of a development version we sent them for testing. They wrote back "It is just a screenshot from our german website. We removed it. For packages and documentation I had to create some screenshots some time ago and neither realized nor expected additional engine options."

So sorry, these nscale...qscale options are not present in the Chessbase release.

We will still consider looking at some special release with more knobs. Perhaps some of you could figure out better settings than us.

Mark

Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 3:48 pm
by S.Taylor
lkaufman wrote:
gogamoga wrote:
lkaufman wrote: but as it happens we found significant enhancements right after our ChessBase deadline and wanted to include them in our own release
you mean Stockfish team has found? :D
It would be nice if we could just put new SF ideas into Komodo and gain elo points, and I admit we do often try them, but they rarely work in Komodo. The differences between the two are too great. Just the fact that Stockfish got rid of half-plies while Komodo did not means that ideas optimized for Stockfish search are usually not optimal for Komodo. It seems to us that Stockfish has been adopting our ideas in the last couple years more than the other way around, perhaps coincidentally. For example, we were using a version of "Lazy SMP" long before Stockfish did, and I think SF switched after losing to us in TCEC. There are many other such instances.
I feel that if Komodo was again above the very strongest besides itself, and was using its own style and strengths, then it would produce the most beautiful games in history. But it has to keep its own hallmarks and not merge into something else.

Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 3:56 pm
by Damir
Hi Mark

Can you include more parameters in Komodo ?
I would like to tweak and tune Komodo myself.
Best
Damir

Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:05 pm
by leavenfish
I'm sure all will be revealed tomorrow.

As a subscriber who is supposed to be able to download all previous versions....why does the website only give these options:

Available Downloads
Komodo 10.3 + 1 year subscription
order #8225     date 2017-03-04     subscription expires in 286 days

Komodo 10.4 updated 03.14.2017
Komodo 10.3 updated 12.20.2016
Komodo 10.2 updated 10.29.2016
Komodo 10.1 updated 07.21.2016
Komodo 10 updated 05.23.2016
Komodo 9.42 updated 03.21.2016
Komodo 9.3 updated 11.27.2015
Komodo 9.2 updated 08.20.2015
Komodo 9.1 updated 06.20.2015
Komodo 9.02 updated 04.27.2015

Komodo 5
order #534     date 2012-07-30    

Komodo 4 single core
order #121     date 2011-12-27    


And for that matter...why are we not offered some of the test versions some are currently testing?

Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 2:00 am
by mjlef
leavenfish wrote:I'm sure all will be revealed tomorrow.

As a subscriber who is supposed to be able to download all previous versions....why does the website only give these options:

Available Downloads
Komodo 10.3 + 1 year subscription
order #8225     date 2017-03-04     subscription expires in 286 days

Komodo 10.4 updated 03.14.2017
Komodo 10.3 updated 12.20.2016
Komodo 10.2 updated 10.29.2016
Komodo 10.1 updated 07.21.2016
Komodo 10 updated 05.23.2016
Komodo 9.42 updated 03.21.2016
Komodo 9.3 updated 11.27.2015
Komodo 9.2 updated 08.20.2015
Komodo 9.1 updated 06.20.2015
Komodo 9.02 updated 04.27.2015

Komodo 5
order #534     date 2012-07-30    

Komodo 4 single core
order #121     date 2011-12-27    


And for that matter...why are we not offered some of the test versions some are currently testing?
Everyone can get the earlier versions for Komodo 6, 7, 8 and ones before Komodo 4 for free from this link:

https://komodochess.com/downloads.htm

Komodo 9.02 was a bug fix, so we do not distribute Komodo 9.0. If you have any other questions, you can contact me on email address on our website.

Mark

Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:33 am
by Hurnavich
Hi,
Release for subs was for today now on the web site states 23rd may so forward a day and my sub runs out on the 23rd joy
Nice chessbase get it before subs.
Perhaps time to rethink subs method.

Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 11:47 am
by mjlef
Hurnavich wrote:Hi,
Release for subs was for today now on the web site states 23rd may so forward a day and my sub runs out on the 23rd joy
Nice chessbase get it before subs.
Perhaps time to rethink subs method.
Larry already announce that anyone with a subscription up to the date Chessbase released Komodo 11 will get Komodo 11.01 from us for free. We also normally give updates for free to anyone who has recently bought Komodo. So you are covered. Also, the Komodo 11.01 version will be stronger than the initial Chessbase Komodo 11 version. So you will get the best we have to offer once it is released. We try to be nice to our customers. We are getting Komodo 11.01 to Chessbase today. I am hoping they offer it as an update to their customers.

I am sorry for the delay, but my Mom had a stroke and broke her leg and my father's blood sugar required hospitalization, and I had to help them out. We prefer to release Komodo close to when Chessbase does, but I was simply not home and able to do everything we need to do.

Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:10 pm
by Dayffd
mjlef wrote:
Hurnavich wrote:Hi,
Release for subs was for today now on the web site states 23rd may so forward a day and my sub runs out on the 23rd joy
Nice chessbase get it before subs.
Perhaps time to rethink subs method.
(snipped)

I am sorry for the delay, but my Mom had a stroke and broke her leg and my father's blood sugar required hospitalization, and I had to help them out. We prefer to release Komodo close to when Chessbase does, but I was simply not home and able to do everything we need to do.
Komodo comes a distant second to these kinds of emergencies, so a delay of one day is nothing. I hope your parents are recovering well.

Re: Komodo 11 is out!

Posted: Mon May 22, 2017 12:13 pm
by JohnS
Mark

Thank you for your great service to your customers. The new version of Komodo sounds great.

I hope your parents make a quick and complete recovery, and of course your family comes first.

John