Komodo 11 is out!
Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 1:56 am
you mean Stockfish team has found?lkaufman wrote: but as it happens we found significant enhancements right after our ChessBase deadline and wanted to include them in our own release
It would be nice if we could just put new SF ideas into Komodo and gain elo points, and I admit we do often try them, but they rarely work in Komodo. The differences between the two are too great. Just the fact that Stockfish got rid of half-plies while Komodo did not means that ideas optimized for Stockfish search are usually not optimal for Komodo. It seems to us that Stockfish has been adopting our ideas in the last couple years more than the other way around, perhaps coincidentally. For example, we were using a version of "Lazy SMP" long before Stockfish did, and I think SF switched after losing to us in TCEC. There are many other such instances.gogamoga wrote:you mean Stockfish team has found?lkaufman wrote: but as it happens we found significant enhancements right after our ChessBase deadline and wanted to include them in our own release
A lot of Stockfish's committed changes are simplification patches and tuning patches. These changes can't be applied to any other engine, except to clones. Stockfish also discusses and tries ideas from Komodo (search the fishcooking forum for lots of examples). The flow of ideas goes every way and it's what makes computer chess so strong.gogamoga wrote:you mean Stockfish team has found?
This is a very true statement! One can only hope that the natural flow of cross sharing of ideas makes computer chess stronger. Whether coincidental or not.brtzsnr wrote:Congrats to the Komodo team for a new strong release.
A lot of Stockfish's committed changes are simplification patches and tuning patches. These changes can't be applied to any other engine, except to clones. Stockfish also discusses and tries ideas from Komodo (search the fishcooking forum for lots of examples). The flow of ideas goes every way and it's what makes computer chess so strong.gogamoga wrote:you mean Stockfish team has found?
Clearly a comment from a non-programmer with no appreciation for the complex non-linear interactions between the many components that make up a chess engine. Cut and paste engineering? Really? That's what you think the Komodo team is doing? Wow.gogamoga wrote:you mean Stockfish team has found?