51st CSVN programmers tournament at Leiden - Hiarcs wins

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Re: 51st CSVN programmers tournament at Leiden - Hiarcs wins

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its expected on a hardware with 28 cores vs max 8 cores, thats nothing special to me, for my opionion as Armenius made a big progress with his program.

thats why i am give it up to participate on such tournaments without hardware limit or not equal hardwares. same on online internet tournaments too.

people means that a program is improved because they used simple a faster hardware, thats totaly wrong. i believe only program differences on equal hardwares.
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my Tornado can beat Hiarcs and Komodo on a 1024 core hardware too !! :-)

nothing spezial to me.
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Re: 51st CSVN programmers tournament at Leiden - Hiarcs wins

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I doubt that. It is not easy to use 1024 cores in a beneficial way.
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well thats only the point your are won. nothing special rules to me !

i will be interested on equal hardware whats the differences between the programms not the huge differences between the hardwares.
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Well, you can test that yourself at home. No need to organize any tournaments for that.

I guess Chess is a lot like soccer. The latter is also not very interesting if one team has more expensive players than the other. The Champions Leage would only make sense if all participating teams had the same budget.
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Engin wrote:well thats only the point your are won. nothing special rules to me !

i will be interested on equal hardware whats the differences between the programms not the huge differences between the hardwares.
That is why I like playing in the World Computer Ches software championship. Where we all play on = hardware provided by the sponsors. An event Hiarcs has won twice.
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Re: 51st CSVN programmers tournament at Leiden - Hiarcs wins

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hgm wrote:I doubt that. It is not easy to use 1024 cores in a beneficial way.
28 core Intel Xeon E5-2697 (2.6 GHz) is 3.9x faster than Intel I7 6700K ( 4 Ghz)

3.9x speed is equal to ~ 80-100 elo

Komodo 10.4 is is 327 elo stronger than Hiarcs 14 (4cpu)


I think Hiarcs 14.x is at least ~200 elo points stronger than Hiarcs 14
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Re: 51st CSVN programmers tournament at Leiden - Hiarcs wins

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OK, thats my opinion too, never the less congratulation for that.

i know that my program have no chances agains Hiarcs or Komodo, but i like to to play with more fairness on equal hardware.

i am well interested only for the Software WM too nothing else.
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i meant for example to use x-cores vs single core is not equal strength. i mean there are huge elo differences between the hardwares.
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Re: 51st CSVN programmers tournament at Leiden - Hiarcs wins

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of course its improved as well, but the on unlimited hardware you can not compare this.