Stockfish bench in i486 & Pentium 75mhz !

[Milos]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

[mwyoung]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess." computers.

Your conclusions, and memory, and your facts.

[Milos]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess." computers.

Your conclusions, and memory, and your facts.

To spell for retard, dedicated chess computer is an engine playing on 6502, that's 1975 10um CPU, not playing on 2018 Zen+ 12nm CPU.

[mwyoung]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess." computers.

Your conclusions, and memory, and your facts.

To spell for retard, dedicated chess computer is an engine playing on 6502, that's 1975 10um CPU, not playing on 2018 Zen+ 12nm CPU.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. This is your claim! And is tested easily.....

After MGP 2400 Elo crushed Stockfish into little meatballs....I thought it would be fun to give SF @ 1 ply a chance. This is Fun!

Code: Select all

Result:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  #  name               games    wins   draws  losses   score    los%  elo+/-
  1. Sargon 1978 V1.00     35      23       3       9    24.5    99.3   147.2
  2. Stockfish 141020      35       9       3      23    10.5     0.7  -147.2

Cross table:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  #  name                  score   games                                   1                                   2
  1. Sargon 1978 V1.00      24.5      35                                   x 101111=1111101101011=10100=11010111
  2. Stockfish 141020       10.5      35 010000=0000010010100=01011=00101000                                   x

Tech:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tech (average nodes, depths, time/m per move, others per game), counted for computing moves only, ignored moves with zero nodes:
  #  name                 nodes/m         NPS  depth/m   time/m    moves     time
  1. Sargon 1978 V1.00       225K       30876      5.7      7.3     36.0    262.4
  2. Stockfish 141020          8K      719472      1.0      0.0     36.2      0.4
     all ---                 113K       31882      3.3      3.6     36.1    131.4

[Milos]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess." computers.

Your conclusions, and memory, and your facts.

To spell for retard, dedicated chess computer is an engine playing on 6502, that's 1975 10um CPU, not playing on 2018 Zen+ 12nm CPU.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. This is your claim! And is tested easily.....

Again to spell for retard who is obviously clueless, Elo is a relative measure that without a common base is a meaningless number. 1978 dedicated chess computer is at least 500 Elo weaker than SF-NNUE depth 1 totally irrespective of how SF absolute rating is calculated vs. humans or today's engines or 1970/80s chess computers. You again demonstrate that you are seriously challenged in basic comprehension.

[Milos]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess." computers.

Your conclusions, and memory, and your facts.

To spell for retard, dedicated chess computer is an engine playing on 6502, that's 1975 10um CPU, not playing on 2018 Zen+ 12nm CPU.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. This is your claim! And is tested easily.....

After MGP 2400 Elo crushed Stockfish into little meatballs....I thought it would be fun to give SF @ 1 ply a chance. This is Fun!

Code: Select all

Result:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  #  name               games    wins   draws  losses   score    los%  elo+/-
  1. Sargon 1978 V1.00     35      23       3       9    24.5    99.3   147.2
  2. Stockfish 141020      35       9       3      23    10.5     0.7  -147.2

Cross table:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  #  name                  score   games                                   1                                   2
  1. Sargon 1978 V1.00      24.5      35                                   x 101111=1111101101011=10100=11010111
  2. Stockfish 141020       10.5      35 010000=0000010010100=01011=00101000                                   x

Tech:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tech (average nodes, depths, time/m per move, others per game), counted for computing moves only, ignored moves with zero nodes:
  #  name                 nodes/m         NPS  depth/m   time/m    moves     time
  1. Sargon 1978 V1.00       225K       30876      5.7      7.3     36.0    262.4
  2. Stockfish 141020          8K      719472      1.0      0.0     36.2      0.4
     all ---                 113K       31882      3.3      3.6     36.1    131.4

The fun thing is that an ape in a zoo has better understanding of human language than you do.

[mwyoung]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess." computers.

Your conclusions, and memory, and your facts.

To spell for retard, dedicated chess computer is an engine playing on 6502, that's 1975 10um CPU, not playing on 2018 Zen+ 12nm CPU.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. This is your claim! And is tested easily.....

Again to spell for retard who is obviously clueless, Elo is a relative measure that without a common base is a meaningless number. 1978 dedicated chess computer is at least 500 Elo weaker than SF-NNUE depth 1 totally irrespective of how SF absolute rating is calculated vs. humans or today's engines or 1970/80s chess computers. You again demonstrate that you are seriously challenged in basic comprehension.

That is why we run test. Who is better. And Stockfish at 1 ply is clearly rated much much worse then MGP from 1993, and much worse then Sargon from 1978.

[Milos]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess." computers.

Your conclusions, and memory, and your facts.

To spell for retard, dedicated chess computer is an engine playing on 6502, that's 1975 10um CPU, not playing on 2018 Zen+ 12nm CPU.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. This is your claim! And is tested easily.....

Again to spell for retard who is obviously clueless, Elo is a relative measure that without a common base is a meaningless number. 1978 dedicated chess computer is at least 500 Elo weaker than SF-NNUE depth 1 totally irrespective of how SF absolute rating is calculated vs. humans or today's engines or 1970/80s chess computers. You again demonstrate that you are seriously challenged in basic comprehension.

That is why we run test. Who is better. And Stockfish at 1 ply is clearly rated much much worse then MPG from 1993, and much worse then Sargon from 1978.

You know that talking about oneself in plural is quite worrying indication of schizophrenia?

[mwyoung]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess." computers.

Your conclusions, and memory, and your facts.

To spell for retard, dedicated chess computer is an engine playing on 6502, that's 1975 10um CPU, not playing on 2018 Zen+ 12nm CPU.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. This is your claim! And is tested easily.....

Again to spell for retard who is obviously clueless, Elo is a relative measure that without a common base is a meaningless number. 1978 dedicated chess computer is at least 500 Elo weaker than SF-NNUE depth 1 totally irrespective of how SF absolute rating is calculated vs. humans or today's engines or 1970/80s chess computers. You again demonstrate that you are seriously challenged in basic comprehension.

That is why we run test. Who is better. And Stockfish at 1 ply is clearly rated much much worse then MPG from 1993, and much worse then Sargon from 1978.

You know that talking about oneself in plural is quite worrying indication of schizophrenia?

I was talking about testers, and we see again. You do not test, but just spill B.S. as facts. I know clearly that you do not test.

[Milos]

I would like to see Stockfish run on a 6502 so we can try out how it plays against the old 8 bit dedicated chess computers.

SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess computers.
SF-NNUE on 6502 would have for sure more than 1000nodes per move. It wouldn't be any contest, it would be a slaughter.

You could not even engine test your way out of a paper bag. And your engine testing are as spot on as your conclusions.
As usual!

Sargon from 1978 vs Stockfish NNUE @ 1 ply (TC=5m+5s)

Live feed:

Sargon from 1978?? My recollection was that in 1978 the best chess computer one could buy ( excluding million dollar computers or the like) was no better than 1500 (probably much worse), and that was with 2 hours; at 5+5 should be like 1000 or worse. SF one ply shouldn't be that bad! What am I missing here? Chess computers one could buy weren't half-decent until early 1980s, unless my memory is quite wrong.

You are missing that a retard is playing an engine called Sargon on 2950x CPU and has 50kN/s. As usual all his tests are outright fake.

I know, and did you see the fake Mephisto Gideon professional by Ed Schröder crush Stockfish even worse....Ask Ed if MGP is also fake.

You can download the "fake" Sargon for UCI here. https://chessengines.blogspot.com/2020/ ... n-100.html

For quality trolling one needs some intelligence. You lack even the basic comprehension. Discussion that you hijacked was about running on 6502. You obviously don't even know what's that.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. That is at least 500 Elo above the best dedicated chess." computers.

Your conclusions, and memory, and your facts.

To spell for retard, dedicated chess computer is an engine playing on 6502, that's 1975 10um CPU, not playing on 2018 Zen+ 12nm CPU.

Milos---"SF-NNUE depth 1 which is 500-1000 nodes is 2400Elo. This is your claim! And is tested easily.....

Again to spell for retard who is obviously clueless, Elo is a relative measure that without a common base is a meaningless number. 1978 dedicated chess computer is at least 500 Elo weaker than SF-NNUE depth 1 totally irrespective of how SF absolute rating is calculated vs. humans or today's engines or 1970/80s chess computers. You again demonstrate that you are seriously challenged in basic comprehension.

That is why we run test. Who is better. And Stockfish at 1 ply is clearly rated much much worse then MPG from 1993, and much worse then Sargon from 1978.

You know that talking about oneself in plural is quite worrying indication of schizophrenia?

I was talking about testers, and we see again. You do not test, but just spill B.S. as facts. I know clearly that you do not test.

The only thing that is BS are your tests. Apart from being totally useless they are often fixed. You rename an engine with a fake name, or let it play on 1 core only while giving opponent all the cores, etc.