Skipper update

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Henk
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Re: Skipper update

Post by Henk »

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Depth  Value   Time(seconds)   Nodes
150    1.3100     241.36   294027853   g3e2 b3a5 e2f4 a5c6 e5g5 b6b5 g1h1 b5b4 h1g1 b4c3 b2c3 a7a6 f4d5 
140    1.2900      79.07    99381742   g3e2 g7g8 e2f4 b3d2 g1h1 d2b1 h1g1 b1d2 g1h1 d2b1 h1g1 b1d2 g1h1 d2b1 h1g1 
130    1.2600      28.19    35180519   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b3d2 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 a7a6 g1h1 a6a5 h1g1 
120    1.1600       1.57     2227800   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 h7h6 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 b3a5 g1f1 a5b3 
110    1.1100       2.59     3763138   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 h7h6 g1h1 b3d2 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 
100    1.7400       0.48      736674   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 h7h6 g1h1 b3d2 e3d5 f6d5 
 90    1.3700       0.31      481196   g3f1 b3a5 f1e3 a5c6 e3d5 c6e5 d5e7 
 80    1.5900       0.10      162915   g3f1 e7d8 f1e3 g7f8 g1f1 b3d2 
 70    1.5900       0.09      117050   g3f1 e7d8 f1e3 g7f8 g1f1 
 60    0.9300       0.03       38390   g3e2 g7g8 g1h1 b3d2 
 50    0.8200       0.01       15673   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 
 40    0.8200       0.01        8544   g3f1 g7g8 
 30    0.8200       0.00        3109   g3e2 
 20    1.3100       0.00         452   g3e2 
 10    1.3100       0.05         103   g3e2 
Henk
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Re: Skipper update

Post by Henk »

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Depth  Value   Time(seconds)   Nodes
150    1.2900      32.44    49911023   g3e2 g7g8 e2f4 b3a5 g1h1 a5b3 e5g5 b3d2 f4d5 f6d5 
140    1.2900      26.24    38413357   g3e2 g7g8 e2f4 b3d2 g1h1 d2b1 e5g5 b1d2 f4d5 
130    1.2800      17.43    24632028   g3e2 g7g8 e2f4 f6e8 f4d5 e7h4 g1f1 b3d2 
120    1.1600       4.42     7353921   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 h7h6 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 
110    1.1100       4.15     6622411   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 h7h6 g1h1 b3d2 
100    1.7400       0.64     1067433   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 h7h6 g1h1 
 90    1.3700       0.54      911316   g3f1 b3a5 f1e3 a5c6 
 80    1.5900       0.22      368480   g3f1 e7d8 f1e3 
 70    1.5900       0.14      220343   g3f1 e7d8 
 60    0.9300       0.06       87691   g3e2 
 50    0.8200       0.02       23632   g3f1 
 40    0.8200       0.01        8544   g3f1 
 30    0.8200       0.00        3109   g3e2 
 20    1.3100       0.00         452   g3e2 
 10    1.3100       0.05         103   g3e2 
Daniel Anulliero
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Re: Skipper update

Post by Daniel Anulliero »

We're only interested in Komodo, Shredder, Jonny and Chiron updates
:lol: :lol:
Isa download :
Henk
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Re: Skipper update

Post by Henk »

Yes me too. I'll send this guy an email that he should stop with these stupid and boring updates but I think it won't help for he never listens.
Henk
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Re: Skipper update

Post by Henk »

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Depth  Value   Time(seconds)   Nodes
150    0.9300      25.35    31018611   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b3a5 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 e7e8 d5d7 e8d7 
140    0.5200      17.65    21266832   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b3d2 g1h1 a7a6 h1g1 d2b1 e3d5 f6d5 
130    0.4600       7.53     9275424   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b6b5 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 e7e8 g1f1 
120    1.2100       2.68     3913300   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b6b5 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 e7e8 
110    1.2100       2.68     3616190   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b6b5 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 e7e8 
100    0.4800       0.87     1074430   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b6b5 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 
 90    0.4800       0.24      330959   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b3d2 e3d5 f6d5 
 80    0.4800       0.18      227785   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b3d2 e3d5 f6d5 
 70    0.3700       0.15      204837   g3f1 g7g8 f1e3 b3d2 e3d5 
 60    0.4800       0.01       18811   g3e2 b3d2 g1h1 d2b1 
 50    0.4800       0.01       11647   g3e2 b3d2 g1h1 d2b1 
 40    0.3400       0.00        1384   g1f1 b3d2 f1e1 
 30    0.3400       0.00         792   g1f1 b3d2 
 20    0.3400       0.00         171   g1f1 b3d2 
 10    0.3400       0.04          75   g1f1 
Henk
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Re: Skipper update

Post by Henk »

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Depth  Value   Time(seconds)   Nodes
160    0.9600      22.08    25518135   g3f1 h7h6 f1e3 g7h7 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 b3a5 g1h1 b6b5 d5b5 
150    0.9800      10.84    12119149   g3f1 h7h6 f1e3 g7h7 g1f1 b3d2 f1e1 d2b3 e1d1 b3a5 
140    1.0800       8.99    10023839   g3e2 h7h6 e2f4 g7h7 e5b8 f6e8 g1h1 e8f6 b8a8 b3d2 
130    1.0800       1.84     2118401   g3f1 h7h6 f1e3 g7h7 g1h1 b3d2 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 
120    1.0800       1.70     1773812   g3f1 h7h6 f1e3 g7h7 g1h1 b3d2 e3d5 f6d5 
110    1.0800       0.44      613654   g3f1 h7h6 f1e3 g7h7 g1h1 b3d2 e3d5 f6d5 
100    1.0800       0.21      240420   g3f1 h7h6 f1e3 g7h7 e3d5 f6d5 e5d5 
 90    1.0800       0.10      139085   g3f1 h7h6 f1e3 g7h7 e3d5 f6d5 
 80    1.0800       0.14      203673   g3f1 h7h6 f1e3 g7h7 e3d5 f6d5 
 70    0.3800       0.07       87622   g3f1 b3a5 f1d2 a5b3 d2b3 
 60    0.3800       0.01       10850   g1h1 b3d2 h1g1 d2b1 
 50    0.3800       0.01        5975   g1h1 b3d2 h1g1 d2b1 
 40    0.3800       0.00        1202   g1f1 b3d2 f1e1 
 30    0.3800       0.00         600   g1f1 b3d2 
 20    0.3800       0.00         155   g1f1 b3d2 
 10    0.3800       0.05          89   g1f1 
Henk
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Re: Skipper update

Post by Henk »

Skipper always loosing end game but this game is an exception:

[pgn]
[Event "Computer Chess Game"]
[Site "HP"]
[Date "2017.07.17"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Fairy-Max 4.8S"]
[Black "SkipperWinb"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "180"]
[Annotator "1. +0.13 1... +0.10"]

1. c4 {+0.13/8} e5 {+0.10/110 3} 2. d4 {+0.13/8 2.6} exd4 {+0.36/120 3} 3.
Qxd4 {-0.11/9 4} Nc6 {+0.26/120 2.9} 4. Qd3 {-0.09/8 2.2} Bb4+
{+0.16/100 2.9} 5. Bd2 {+0.05/7 2.2} Bc5 {+0.06/100 2.8} 6. Be3 {+0.03/8 3}
Bxe3 {+0.16/110 2.8} 7. fxe3 {-0.05/9 4} Nf6 {+0.26/110 2.7} 8. Nc3
{+0.01/9 4} O-O {+0.36/120 2.7} 9. Nf3 {+0.07/9 6} Nb4 {+0.26/100 2.6} 10.
Qd2 {-0.06/9 4} Na6 {+0.27/100 2.6} 11. e4 {-0.09/9 7} d6 {+0.17/100 2.5}
12. O-O-O {+0.07/9 4} Qe7 {+0.07/100 2.5} 13. Qd4 {-0.18/8 2.2} Nb8
{-0.05/90 2.5} 14. e5 {-0.07/9 2.4} dxe5 {+0.05/120 2.4} 15. Qxe5
{-0.18/11 6} Qxe5 {+0.49/130 2.4} 16. Nxe5 {-0.20/10 2.3} Nc6
{+0.09/110 2.4} 17. Nxc6 {-0.11/9 2.2} bxc6 {+0.13/140 2.3} 18. e4
{-0.04/9 1.6} Bg4 {-0.04/120 2.3} 19. Rd2 {-0.05/9 1.5} a5 {-0.09/120 2.3}
20. Be2 {+0.05/8 1.5} Bxe2 {-0.14/110 2.2} 21. Rxe2 {-0.05/11 1.6} Ra7
{+0.02/110 2.2} 22. e5 {+0.05/11 1.7} Ng4 {+0.12/140 2.1} 23. h3
{+0.32/13 2.2} Nh6 {+0.22/120 2.1} 24. g4 {+0.25/12 4} Rb7 {+0.13/120 2.1}
25. Rf1 {+0.67/11 1.6} f6 {-0.52/100 2.0} 26. e6 {+1.09/10 1.5} Ra7
{-0.14/100 2.0} 27. Rd1 {+1.17/10 1.9} Rb7 {-0.22/100 2.0} 28. a4
{+1.18/11 5} Rb4 {-0.16/110 1.9} 29. c5 {+1.15/9 1.2} Rf4 {-0.06/110 1.9}
30. e7 {+1.39/10 1.6} Re8 {+0.04/130 1.9} 31. Rd8 {+0.98/10 1.3} Rf1+
{+0.16/130 1.8} 32. Nd1 {+0.97/11 1.4} Kf7 {+0.06/140 1.8} 33. Rxe8
{+0.93/13 2.2} Kxe8 {+0.00/140 1.8} 34. Re6 {+0.72/12 2.4} f5
{+0.44/140 1.7} 35. Rxc6 {+0.76/12 2.7} fxg4 {-0.16/130 1.7} 36. hxg4
{+0.73/12 1.7} Nxg4 {-0.12/140 1.7} 37. Kc2 {+0.53/12 1.8} Re1
{-0.40/120 1.7} 38. Rxc7 {+0.52/12 1.3} Re2+ {-0.50/120 1.6} 39. Kb3
{+0.54/12 2.2} Rd2 {-0.60/120 1.6} 40. Nc3 {+0.97/11 1.0} Ne5
{-0.70/120 1.6} 41. Nb5 {+1.45/11 1.1} Rd7 {-0.28/110 1.6} 42. c6
{+1.50/12 1.2} Rxc7 {-0.48/130 1.5} 43. Nxc7+ {+0.00/19 0.9} Kxe7
{-0.38/130 1.5} 44. Nd5+ {-0.01/17 1.4} Kd8 {-0.28/110 1.5} 45. c7+
{-0.05/15 2.7} Kc8 {-0.15/100 1.5} 46. Kc3 {-0.17/14 2.9} Nd7
{+0.36/90 1.5} 47. Kd4 {-0.24/13 1.4} Nf6 {+0.80/100 1.4} 48. Nf4
{-0.32/12 1.4} Kxc7 {+1.24/90 1.4} 49. Ne6+ {-0.13/13 1.2} Kc6
{+1.24/100 1.4} 50. Nxg7 {-0.05/13 1.3} Nd5 {+1.24/100 1.4} 51. Nf5
{+0.07/13 0.8} h5 {+1.52/100 1.3} 52. b3 {+0.05/13 0.8} Nb4 {+1.42/100 1.3}
53. Kc4 {-0.03/14 1.4} Kb6 {+1.32/100 1.3} 54. Kd4 {-0.08/14 1.1} Nc6+
{+1.52/100 1.3} 55. Kd5 {-0.02/14 1.3} Nb8 {+1.42/100 1.3} 56. Kd6
{-0.10/13 0.8} Na6 {+1.32/100 1.2} 57. Ne3 {-0.12/14 1.5} Nb4
{+1.04/90 1.2} 58. Nc4+ {+0.07/14 0.8} Ka6 {+0.94/110 1.2} 59. Ke5
{-0.06/14 0.8} Na2 {+0.00/110 1.2} 60. Kf5 {-0.21/14 1.1} Nc1
{+0.00/100 1.1} 61. Kg5 {-0.33/14 0.8} Nxb3 {+0.01/110 1.1} 62. Kxh5
{-0.29/15 1.1} Kb7 {+0.04/120 1.1} 63. Ne5 {-0.24/16 1.1} Kb6
{+0.04/110 1.1} 64. Nd3 {-0.68/16 1.5} Kc6 {+0.04/110 1.1} 65. Kg5
{-0.67/16 1.9} Kd5 {+0.17/100 1.1} 66. Kf4 {-0.68/16 1.9} Nc5
{+0.91/100 1.0} 67. Nb2 {-0.66/16 1.0} Kd4 {+1.01/120 1.0} 68. Kf5
{-0.85/15 1.1} Kc3 {+1.11/120 1.0} 69. Nd1+ {-1.14/15 0.8} Kb4
{+1.75/110 1.0} 70. Ne3 {-1.05/13 0.5} Nxa4 {+1.76/100 1.0} 71. Nc2+
{-1.44/13 1.2} Kc3 {+1.86/110 1.0} 72. Ne3 {-2.51/14 0.9} Nb6
{+1.96/100 0.9} 73. Nd1+ {-2.86/14 0.8} Kd2 {+2.06/120 0.9} 74. Nf2
{-8.21/14 0.8} a4 {+2.16/100 0.9} 75. Ne4+ {-8.31/14 0.8} Kc2
{+2.26/100 0.9} 76. Nc5 {-8.44/14 1.2} a3 {+2.36/100 0.9} 77. Na6
{-8.45/12 0.5} Nd5 {+7.91/90 0.9} 78. Ke4 {-5.69/13 0.4} a2 {+7.91/100 0.9}
79. Kxd5 {-5.79/14 0.7} a1=Q {+7.91/110 0.8} 80. Nc5 {-5.92/13 0.8} Qb1
{+7.91/100 0.8} 81. Kd4 {-6.03/13 0.7} Qb4+ {+7.95/100 0.8} 82. Kd5
{-6.06/14 0.6} Kd2 {+7.99/100 0.8} 83. Ne6 {-6.05/13 0.5} Ke3
{+7.99/90 0.8} 84. Ke5 {-6.09/13 0.5} Qa5+ {+7.99/90 0.8} 85. Kf6
{-6.09/13 0.6} Ke4 {+7.99/90 0.8} 86. Ng5+ {-6.06/13 0.5} Kd5
{+8.03/90 0.8} 87. Kg6 {-6.06/12 0.3} Ke5 {+8.03/90 0.8} 88. Nf7+
{-6.08/13 0.5} Kd4 {+7.99/90 0.7} 89. Kf6 {-6.04/13 0.8} Qe1 {+7.99/80 0.7}
90. Kf5 {-6.06/13 0.7} Qe4+ {+8.03/80 0.7} 91. Kf6 {-6.11/13 1.0} Kd5
{+8.03/90 0.7} 92. Ng5 {-6.13/13 0.4} Qf4+ {+8.03/90 0.7} 93. Kg6
{-6.13/13 0.5} Qh4 {+8.03/90 0.7} 94. Kf5 {-6.12/13 0.3} Qa4 {+7.99/90 0.7}
95. Kg6 {-6.20/14 0.8} Qg4 {+7.99/90 0.7} 96. Kf6 {-6.15/14 0.6} Qd7
{+8.03/90 0.6} 97. Kg6 {-6.15/13 0.3} Ke5 {+8.03/90 0.6} 98. Nf7+
{-8.49/14 0.4} Kf4 {+8.03/90 0.6} 99. Kf6 {-6.10/12 0.3} Qe8 {+8.03/90 0.6}
100. Nh6 {-6.20/12 0.3} Qe5+ {+8.07/80 0.6} 101. Kf7 {-8.59/13 0.5} Qh5+
{+8.07/80 0.6} 102. Kg7 {-8.58/13 0.2} Qg5+ {+10.77/90 0.6} 103. Kf7
{-8.62/13 0.5} Qxh6 {+10.81/90 0.6} 104. Ke7 {-79.95/13 0.4} Ke5
{+10.85/80 0.6} 105. Kd7 {-79.96/15 0.3} Qc1 {+2621.35/80 0.5} 106. Ke7
{-79.97/24 0.2} Qc7+ {+2621.37/80 0.5} 107. Ke8 {-79.98/28 0.2} Ke6
{+2621.39/80 0.5} 108. Kf8 {-79.99/28 0.2} Qf7# {+2621.41/90 0.5}
{Xboard adjudication: Checkmate} 0-1
[/pgn]
asanjuan
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Re: Skipper update

Post by asanjuan »

First of all: my apologies for bringing up this thread again, but I'm extremely surprised by this sentence:
Henk wrote:No Skipper does no do hash cut offs. For it uses Zobrist keys so it can't trust the hash move anymore because of hash collisions. And I want to avoid spending time on errors which were caused by hash collisions.
How the hell you can reach depth 77 without hash cutoffs?????
And still you are surprised by not finding the right move?

As Sven said: Skypper needs a rewrite from scratch. 100% Sure.
Still learning how to play chess...
knigths move in "L" shape ¿right?