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kranium
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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by kranium » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:18 pm

velmarin wrote:
How Contempt, how options Syzygy, coincidence 100/100?

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name Contempt option type default spin 0 min - max 100 100
option name Ponder type check default false
option name UCI_Chess960 type check default false
option name Syzygy50MoveRule type check default true
option name SyzygyPath type string default <empty>
option name SyzygyProbeDepth type spin default 8 min 1 max 64
option name SyzygyProbeLimit type spin default 6 min 0 max 6,

you must have a typo, it should be:

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name Contempt option type default spin 0 min - 100 max 100

It's no coincidence that contempt values -100 100 are used...
they corresponds to 1 pawn value up or down.
they are IMO ideal values considering the fact it's basically a cp multiplier of the draw score

To make you happy, I'll change it in the future so it's different than what SF uses...

As Dan points out, SyzygyPath, etc. have become a standard over the last couple years

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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by velmarin » Wed Nov 16, 2016 10:37 pm

You are just the same scammer
you will change according to change the Github of Stockfish, a clone derived more, but to disguise has lost its strength.

Your project is finished, is just a poor copy of a scammer.

A change in your Fire_3 or Fire_4 to this Fire_5 needs of many projects, time and tests you have not done.
It shows if you have them.

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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by kranium » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:20 pm

velmarin wrote: A change in your Fire_3 or Fire_4 to this Fire_5 needs of many projects, time and tests you have not done.
It shows if you have them.

I have time I'm retired
Fire 4 is from Dec. 2014
Most of last year was spent finding/fixing TCEC crash issue
Fire 5 is running about +40 elo compared to Fire 4 in Franks test
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62151

That's certainly doable...even if not a magician

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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by Gusev » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:59 am

What's the similarity between Komodo 10.2 and Stockfish 8, for comparison?
kranium wrote:
velmarin wrote: A change in your Fire_3 or Fire_4 to this Fire_5 needs of many projects, time and tests you have not done.
It shows if you have them.

I have time I'm retired
Fire 4 is from Dec. 2014
Most of last year was spent finding/fixing TCEC crash issue
Fire 5 is running about +40 elo compared to Fire 4 in Franks test
http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62151

That's certainly doable...even if not a magician

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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by Rebel » Thu Nov 17, 2016 11:12 am

kranium wrote: That can easily be ascertained by using the sim tool, or running the 2 engines side by side.
Unfortunately the sim tool can only point to (possible) cloning, not set an engine free.

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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by mehmet karaman » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:35 pm

velmarin wrote:You are just the same scammer
you will change according to change the Github of Stockfish, a clone derived more, but to disguise has lost its strength.

Your project is finished, is just a poor copy of a scammer.

A change in your Fire_3 or Fire_4 to this Fire_5 needs of many projects, time and tests you have not done.
It shows if you have them.
It' s a very shocking news for the chess community. We had waited 2 years for Fire 5

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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by jd1 » Thu Nov 17, 2016 3:51 pm

SzG wrote:How did it become 100 times smaller in size than Fire 4?
Good question.

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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by Alexander Schmidt » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:55 pm

jd1 wrote:
SzG wrote:How did it become 100 times smaller in size than Fire 4?
Good question.
Easy answer: It is compressed.

So far there is NOTHING in that thread that can seriously be seen as evidence that Fire is a Stockfish clone. Just don't believe this crap by this frustrated wannabe programmer.

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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by beram » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:59 pm

Alexander Schmidt wrote:
jd1 wrote:
SzG wrote:How did it become 100 times smaller in size than Fire 4?
Good question.
Easy answer: It is compressed.

So far there is NOTHING in that thread that can seriously be seen as evidence that Fire is a Stockfish clone. Just don't believe this crap by this frustrated wannabe programmer.
Are you a twin brother of Norman or just cloned?

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Re: Fire 5 is out!

Post by Graham Banks » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:14 pm

Looks like most of this thread should be in the origins forum.
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