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Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:12 am
by bob
Frank Quisinsky wrote:Hi Bob,

I tested both current versions, compiled by Dann and compiled by Jim. On my i7 4th and 5th gen. machines a bit better results the work Dann do.

I am reading in the last months on different positions that a newer version is still in development. OK, Crafty is all the time ... more as 30 years still in development.

But I am very interested and have to asked for the release date. Around 80 ELO for a place in TOP-25!

If I am looking in the results I have in detail the style is a complete other (stubborn or wayward ... the right words I think) in comparing to other TOP-50 engines. Each time I am looking I saw that Crafty have bigger troubles in king safety after opening book moves. Lost a lot of games very fast. I am sure that this point is on the ToDo list?!

Bob, I wrote that last year ...
In endgames with queen or rooks and pawns it seems that the strength drops in comparing to endgames with pawns and bishops / knights. In endgames with with pawns and bishops / knights the strenght is much higher and here Crafty is not easy to beat for clearly stronger engines. A very strong point your engine have ... in my humble opinion.

Any ideas for that reasons?
Maybe a point for improvements ... queen / rooks endgames?!

On the other hand I am happy with the style of Crafty ... its realy an own and such things are very important for a Rating list and of course for self playing.

Good luck with the new version!
I wish me a fast release ... maybe in October?
For September I have enough to do in testing engines :-)

Best
Frank

PS: OK Crafty lost many games very fast but also clear is that Crafty can win in the current version also many games very fast. The right way and Crafty is playing now much more interesting chess since the last available version. So the last improvements are very good.
Today was my last official day at UAB. I am now officially retired. We will probably release 25.1 pretty soon...

Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 2:32 am
by tmokonen
bob wrote: Today was my last official day at UAB. I am now officially retired. We will probably release 25.1 pretty soon...
I see your Crafty hosting with UAB no longer exists. Is there an alternate location for all those historical versions of Crafty?

Congratulations on a long career, and I hope you enjoy your retirement.

Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:33 am
by bob
tmokonen wrote:
bob wrote: Today was my last official day at UAB. I am now officially retired. We will probably release 25.1 pretty soon...
I see your Crafty hosting with UAB no longer exists. Is there an alternate location for all those historical versions of Crafty?

Congratulations on a long career, and I hope you enjoy your retirement.
Now that I have all retirement details worked out, I will look into setting up the same web page elsewhere, I saved everything.

Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:00 am
by MikeB
bob wrote:
Today was my last official day at UAB. I am now officially retired. We will probably release 25.1 pretty soon...
Congratulations on your long and distinguished career at UAB - here's to you making your retirement just as long and distinguished! Wish you all the best. I'm a little bit behind you , but not by much as far as retirement goes. A few more years to go.

Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:24 am
by giovanni
bob wrote:
tmokonen wrote:
bob wrote: Today was my last official day at UAB. I am now officially retired. We will probably release 25.1 pretty soon...
I see your Crafty hosting with UAB no longer exists. Is there an alternate location for all those historical versions of Crafty?

Congratulations on a long career, and I hope you enjoy your retirement.
Now that I have all retirement details worked out, I will look into setting up the same web page elsewhere, I saved everything.
Congratulations on your fantastic career, Bob! You should write a book about it!
Just out curiosity: are you planning to continue your work on Crafty or you have other projects in your head?

Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:57 am
by Rebel
bob wrote: Today was my last official day at UAB. I am now officially retired.
Congrats and welcome to the club.

Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:13 am
by Graham Banks
bob wrote:Today was my last official day at UAB. I am now officially retired. We will probably release 25.1 pretty soon...
Congratulations on your retirement. :)

Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:16 am
by Frank Quisinsky
Congrats Bob!!

@Ed:
A mad club!
I know it becaue I am a member too.

Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:35 pm
by Gerd Isenberg
bob wrote: Today was my last official day at UAB. I am now officially retired. We will probably release 25.1 pretty soon...
Congrats, Bob! Is Professor Emeritus the correct title now?

Re: Around Crafty dev. ...

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:53 am
by bob
giovanni wrote:
bob wrote:
tmokonen wrote:
bob wrote: Today was my last official day at UAB. I am now officially retired. We will probably release 25.1 pretty soon...
I see your Crafty hosting with UAB no longer exists. Is there an alternate location for all those historical versions of Crafty?

Congratulations on a long career, and I hope you enjoy your retirement.
Now that I have all retirement details worked out, I will look into setting up the same web page elsewhere, I saved everything.
Congratulations on your fantastic career, Bob! You should write a book about it!
Just out curiosity: are you planning to continue your work on Crafty or you have other projects in your head?
Will work on Crafty as long as I am physically/mentally able to do so...