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Graham Banks wrote:
Sensible decision.

Harvey Williamson wrote:

Graham Banks wrote:
Sensible decision.

Sensible but only if all others are treated the same.

carldaman wrote:What was wrong with Komodo's settings? People should at least be entitled to a proper explanation by the organizers.

BlackEngineOptions: Use Syzygy=true; Syzygy Probe Depth=2; Syzygy Probe Limit=6; Dynamism=110;

BlackEngineOptions: Contempt=7;

Graham Banks wrote:

simon wrote:

Look wrote:Why the first game between Houdini 200716 - Komodo 10.1 is restarted ?

The TCEC operators used incorrect UCI settings for Komodo so the game is being replayed.

Sensible decision.
One game means little in the overall scheme of things and it is best to have all engines set up correctly.

shrapnel wrote:Also, the complaint was made 4 to 5 hours into the game. Complaint should have been dismissed. It should have been made earlier.
I'm sure nothing would have been said if Komodo was actually winning !
The Conspiracy theorists just got a big boost !

Nay Lin Tun wrote:

shrapnel wrote:Also, the complaint was made 4 to 5 hours into the game. Complaint should have been dismissed. It should have been made earlier.
I'm sure nothing would have been said if Komodo was actually winning !
The Conspiracy theorists just got a big boost !

Yes of course, complaints always come from the losers not from the winners.If the organisers would like to blame the wrong settings, that settings must be in public before the game start! Who knows K team would like to try with the new setting that was used in the previous game and only when the game was dead lost, the drama started. A couple of things come to my mind
1. Complaints should be done before the game start and should be invalid when the game has decisive outcome
2. No transparency in private setting
3. The setting were not obviously wrong as a general sense{eg,people can sense as a wrong setting if only 1 core was used instead of 20}
4.No one knows whether the other engine authors might complaints due to the wrong setting or other reason and whether those complaints were refused.
5. The replay rule was already announced before the game but it was supposed to be an obvious bug , and Komodo did not play as a bug game.(there was intense fight in the whole game until one side got advantage)

P.S-->there was a public poll by someone whether the game should be replayed or not, and most spectators voted as no.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10816599/r

IanO wrote:

carldaman wrote:What was wrong with Komodo's settings? People should at least be entitled to a proper explanation by the organizers.

The differences can be found in the initial game comment.

Before:

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BlackEngineOptions: Use Syzygy=true; Syzygy Probe Depth=2; Syzygy Probe Limit=6; Dynamism=110;

After:

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BlackEngineOptions: Contempt=7;

To summarize, removing custom Syzygy probe options and "Dynamism" (whatever that is), and adding Contempt 7.

It would be nice to hear from Mark what the effects of these changes are likely to be.

gotogo wrote:Komodo team steals from Houdini!
I guess The TCEC sponsors are happy about outcome!

Who knows if TCEC changed some setting in Houdini?
Does Komodo retain game info in hash and change strategy after a loss?
Could this have been a setup all along?
As much as ARB is a pain in the @ss he now has some merit!

Why is it Mark always gets his way when he whines?
Does TCEC find games that favor Komodo over other engines?
I don't trust TCEC outcome anymore?

gotogo wrote:TCEC nepotism for you. TCEC had more than ample time to set all engines up correctly!

I'm sure Robert won't be happy, furthermore you guys may have just ruined it for everyone with Houdini!

I hope for a Stockfish and Houdini final!
Everyone was excited then the game was took from Houdini!