Three humans have a 60%+ match with Stocikfish

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Three humans have a 60%+ match with Stocikfish

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Re: Three humans have a 60%+ match with Stocikfish

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Nice.
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And that doesn't say much. Carslen play 58% of his move like stockfish and is 2850 player , another player rated 2624 play the same %

Now let's see if they play like Houdini or Komodo instead. Would be fun to see Carslen playing more like Komodo.
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Re: Three humans have a 60%+ match with Stocikfish

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JJJ wrote:And that doesn't say much. Carslen play 58% of his move like stockfish and is 2850 player , another player rated 2624 play the same %

Now let's see if they play like Houdini or Komodo instead. Would be fun to see Carslen playing more like Komodo.
I think it says more about the engine that they analyze with and it's influence on their play.
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Re: Three humans have a 60%+ match with Stocikfish

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I think this is the most logical explanation
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Re: Three humans have a 60%+ match with Stocikfish

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I have data indicating that humans rated 1600-1700 have barely above 40%, whereas Houdini 1.5a and correspondence games from the ICCF W28 have around 75% coincidence with Komodo 8.

You've got to have a big strength difference and similar-type positions to get meaningful conclusions.
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Re: Three humans have a 60%+ match with Stocikfish

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Stockfish must be the official trainer of China.
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Re: Three humans have a 60%+ match with Stocikfish

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Dan Cooper wrote:Stockfish must be the official trainer of China.
I think it is simpler than that. I'd bet 10 years ago these numbers were HIGHER. As the computers were reaching real upper-GM levels. But as they get stronger, I'd expect the gap to be in a widening mode now as the humans simply can't stick with them tactically and the computers pull further and further away...