WCCC June 27th in Leiden

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Re: WCCC June 27th in Leiden

Post by diep » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:51 am

Bart Weststrate wrote:
2400 cores seems really a lot to me there :)
:)
Howdy Vincent! Je bent weer helemaal terug? How come?
hi bart, good to see you.

just checking the progress - yet there is none.

Still the elo 1800 openingstricks of Erdo work because they didn't improve the chessknowledge of the engines.

Erdo just takes the previous version of an engine; "heh it wants to capture on a6"

==> for example Hiarcs - Komodo

Then he plays total BS opening and guess what, it took on a6 - playing an elo 1500 move - which Erdo correctly understands of course as being a strategical bad plan for white :)

The level didn't improve.

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Re: WCCC June 27th in Leiden

Post by diep » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:57 am

You seem to miss the concept of a world championship versus what elo is.

It's about this one game. Or it's about 2 games in total.
There is 3 results possible.

Even a small change of the odds - which elowise will not even remotely be close to 70 elo - can change the balance and win you this game.

Of course a requirement is that you aren't falling for elo1800 traps of Erdo in openingsbook :)

If you have Erdo make the book of Jonny it wins of course with 13 out of 15 the title :)

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Re: WCCC June 27th in Leiden

Post by Uri Blass » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:01 pm

Henk wrote:I think these programs are capturing to much. Never heard of take is a mistake.
I heard about this rule and
this rule is simply wrong.

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Re: WCCC June 27th in Leiden

Post by Henk » Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:03 pm

Never let liquidate by exchange a free center pawn. Or exchange a piece if it helps opponent with his development.

What about poisoned pawns. Engines just take them too easily.

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Re: WCCC June 27th in Leiden

Post by lkaufman » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:42 pm

Henk wrote:Never let liquidate by exchange a free center pawn. Or exchange a piece if it helps opponent with his development.

What about poisoned pawns. Engines just take them too easily.
I won't speak for other engines, but if Komodo has any flaw in this department, it is that it Sacrifices pawns too readily!
Komodo rules!

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Re: WCCC June 27th in Leiden

Post by Henk » Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:30 am

I was still thinking about first game Komodo-Jonny where Jonny captures pawn on a5 with the queen.

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Re: WCCC June 27th in Leiden

Post by lkaufman » Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:29 am

Henk wrote:I was still thinking about first game Komodo-Jonny where Jonny captures pawn on a5 with the queen.
I think that was mostly a case of Komodo just not seeing quite as deeply as Jonny with its thousands of processors. Probably not a judgment/eval issue.
Komodo rules!


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Re: WCCC June 27th in Leiden

Post by Peter Berger » Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:21 pm

So Fabien won the Draughts competition again. Maybe 19*19 Go next? :)

Peter

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