Very interesting!!
Demis Hassabis, a friend of a friend:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35420579
Go has fallen to computer domination?
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Re: Go has fallen to computer domination?
A paper describing the deep learning dual neural network used for this feat can be found here https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind ... ing-go.pdf
In the paper they say that the level of play achieved so far was previously thought to be still a decade away. If true, AlphaGO is a monumental achievement.
Note that Facebook has a rival program. Now that Zuckerberg learned Mandarin, he is aiming big at China, lol
In the paper they say that the level of play achieved so far was previously thought to be still a decade away. If true, AlphaGO is a monumental achievement.
Note that Facebook has a rival program. Now that Zuckerberg learned Mandarin, he is aiming big at China, lol
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Re: Go has fallen to computer domination?
It is. 494/495 score was achieved at 5s/move (not ultra-fast) single machine. Against Lee Sedol the distributed version will play. Humans are in a serious trouble.melajara wrote: AlphaGO is a monumental achievement.
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Re: Go has fallen to computer domination?
The rival of facebook is google whose bot can be found in the link you provided. If you meant to say that Google Deepmind has a rival with facebook (and their darkforest bot), it's not really true. Facebook bot still hasn't reached zen's level (zen is 6 dan on kgs, darkforest only 5 dan) which is much, much weaker than Alphago (around 800 to 1000 elo weaker).melajara wrote:A paper describing the deep learning dual neural network used for this feat can be found here https://storage.googleapis.com/deepmind ... ing-go.pdf
In the paper they say that the level of play achieved so far was previously thought to be still a decade away. If true, AlphaGO is a monumental achievement.
Note that Facebook has a rival program. Now that Zuckerberg learned Mandarin, he is aiming big at China, lol
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Re: Go has fallen to computer domination?
In fact from the 4 stone handicap games listed here http://www.computer-go.info/h-c/ and knowing that single machine AlphaGo beats consistently at 4 stone handicap both Crazy Stone and Zen, it seems the distributed version is even above normal 9p. Sedol is not a normal 9p, though. The estimates in the original PDF paper seem conservative to me. Also, they are using some own rating based on BayesElo with a constant Delta, which are hard to translate to EGF GoR.Laskos wrote:It is. 494/495 score was achieved at 5s/move (not ultra-fast) single machine. Against Lee Sedol the distributed version will play. Humans are in a serious trouble.melajara wrote: AlphaGO is a monumental achievement.
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I think people that probably uses thread view, tend to lose posts that they are never read, like the mine posting exactly the same link of BBC:-)Modern Times wrote:It appeared in the BBC News website as well
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35420579
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Re: Go has fallen to computer domination?
Here are some comments from top Chinese players:
1. Ke Jie (world champ) – limited strength…but still amazing… Less than 5% chance against Lee Sedol now. But as it can go stronger, who knows its future…
2. Mi Yuting (world champ) – appears to be a ‘chong-duan-shao-nian (kids on the path to pros)’, ~high-level amateur.
3, Li Jie (former national team player) – appears to be pro-level. one of the games is almost perfect (for AlphaGo)
1. Ke Jie (world champ) – limited strength…but still amazing… Less than 5% chance against Lee Sedol now. But as it can go stronger, who knows its future…
2. Mi Yuting (world champ) – appears to be a ‘chong-duan-shao-nian (kids on the path to pros)’, ~high-level amateur.
3, Li Jie (former national team player) – appears to be pro-level. one of the games is almost perfect (for AlphaGo)
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can the software be converted to chess use and do you think it will be comparable to stockfish/komodo?matthewlai wrote:Videos available on DeepMind site:Isaac wrote:5 games have been played between a new go program called Alphago (from google deepmind) against the top European champion. No handicap stone. The program won the 5 games.
Sources: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v5 ... 16961.html
Games can be downloaded at http://www.usgo.org/news/2016/01/alphag ... i-advance/.
In March it is said that Lee Sedol (regarded as the strongest go player in the world by many) will play Alphago.
What's next?
http://deepmind.com/alpha-go.html
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I know the incentive isn't there because "we've already beaten the World Human Champion", but do you think a project like this could work for chess?