Lomonosov Endgame Tablebases

[velmarin]

Actually NO. That idiocy lucky has been reversed. 50 move rule is 50 move rule and a draw.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablas_(ajedrez)
although it allows to ignore the law in the compositions of ajedrez problems.

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There are recognized, documented positions that constitute exceptions to the 50-move rule. However, FIDE has not modified the 50 move rule for headings officers between humans or computers, although it allows to ignore the law in the compositions of ajedrez  problems.

In http://www.ficgs.com/ correspondence server the rule is not followed.
Lomonosov site warns that evaluated positions do not follow this line, in fact keeps a record of long positions of mate, 509 I think it's the record, with that rule, it would be impossible, Science, knowledge and curiosity

The idiots for another occasion.

[diep]

i speak of FIDE rules. 50 move rule is a draw there. No weirdo exceptions where it gets more moves of course all that idiocy has been reversed lucky so it's plain and simple now. 50 moves rule is a draw!

Regards,
Vincent

[syzygy]

It seems Jose is arguing that, according to the Spanish Wikipedia entry on draws in chess, FIDE allows one to ignore the 50-move rule for chess compositions.

I don't think it is very correct to link FIDE to the rules on chess compositions. But the World Federation for Chess Composition (WFCC, formerly PCCC) seems to be somehow associated to FIDE, and in its handbook one can find:

Article 17 - 50 Moves-Rule
Unless expressly stipulated, the 50 moves-rule does not apply to the solution of chess compositions except for retro-problems.

Apart from this not coming from FIDE itself, it is only "soft law":

This codex deals with general principles of chess composition activities such as composition, solving and publication. The codex is intended to be descriptive, rather than prescriptive, and it is also intended to offer constructive guidance in areas where there has been no central guidance before. It is not intended to be a body of established law which problemists must observe on pain of being condemned of heresy or worse; problemists are independent spirits, and it would be pointless for the PCCC to attempt to legislate in that way.

Chess problem composers can do whatever they want.

[Nordlandia]

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1.Ra6 d1R 2.Kxg4 Rg1+ 3.Kf5 Ne5 4.Kxe5 Kh2 5.Rh6+ Kg3 6.Rd6 g4 7.Kf5 Rc1 8.
Rd3+ Kh4 9.Rd2 g3 10.Kf4 Rf1+ 11.Ke3 Kh3 12.Rd6 g2 13.Rh6+ Kg3 14.Rg6+ Kh2 15.
Rh6+ Kg1 16.Rg6 Rf5 17.Rd6 Rh5 18.Rg6 Rh2 19.Rf6 Kh1 20.Rg6 g1Q+ 21.Rxg1+ Kxg1
22.Kd4 Rh1 23.Kc4 Rh5 24.Kd4 Kf2 25.Ke4 Ke2 26.Kd4 Kf3 27.Kd3 Rh4 28.Kd2 Rd4+
29.Kc2 Ke2 30.Kc3 Re4 31.Kc2 Re3 32.Kc1 Kd3 33.Kb2 Kd2 34.Kb1 Kc3 35.Ka1 Kb3
36.Kb1 Re1# 0-1[/pgn]



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1.Ra7 Bf4 2.Ra8 Ne5 3.Rxc8+ Kh7 4.Ra8 Ng4+ 5.Ke6 Kh6 6.Rh8+ Kg5 7.Rh1 Nf2 8.
Rg1+ Kh5 9.Rb1 Ne4 10.Rb4 Ng5+ 11.Kf6 Bd2 12.Ra4 Bc3+ 13.Ke7 Be5 14.Rb4 Nf3 15.
Ke6 Kg5 16.Ra4 Bd4 17.Ra8 Kf4 18.Kd5 g5 19.Rf8+ Kg3 20.Re8 g4 21.Rg8 Bf2 22.
Ke4 Nh2 23.Rf8 Kg2 24.Rb8 g3 25.Kf4 Nf1 26.Rg8 Be3+ 27.Ke4 Kf2 28.Rf8+ Ke2 29.
Rg8 Nd2+ 30.Kd5 Kf3 31.Rg7 g2 32.Rg6 g1Q 33.Rxg1 Bxg1 34.Ke5 Nc4+ 35.Kd5 Nb6+
36.Kd6 Kf4 37.Kc6 Ke5 38.Kc7 Kd5 39.Kb7 Kc5 40.Ka7 Bh2 41.Kb7 Kb5 42.Ka7 Kc6
43.Ka6 Bb8 44.Ka5 Nd5 45.Ka4 Be5 46.Ka5 Bd4 47.Ka6 Nc7+ 48.Ka5 Bc3+ 49.Ka4 Kc5
50.Kb3 Nd5 51.Ka3 Kc4 52.Ka4 Nf4 53.Ka3 Nd3 54.Ka4 Bd2 55.Ka3 Bb4+ 56.Ka2 Kc3
57.Kb1 Kb3 58.Ka1 Kc2 59.Ka2 Nc1+ 60.Ka1 Bc3# 0-1[/pgn]