Oh my !!!
A draw after all !!!! Thats soooooooo crazy because evaluation was at peak 26,35 by Stockfish and 4,95 by Komodo !
Sorry, still undefeated !! Hahaha.
Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
Now you can ADMIT that you are impressed !AdminX wrote: If Komodo finds a way to way this, I will be truly impressed.
I'd left when Stockfish was +3 up and when I came on later, it was a DRAW
What I can't figure out is whether SF made a mistake or did Komodo do a Houdini to escape ??
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
YES! Games 1, 8, and now 22 really WOW!shrapnel wrote:Now you can ADMIT that you are impressed !AdminX wrote: If Komodo finds a way to way this, I will be truly impressed.
I'd left when Stockfish was +3 up and when I came on later, it was a DRAW
What I can't figure out is whether SF made a mistake or did Komodo do a Houdini to escape ??
PS: I thought surely if Stockfish could get the two pawns to the 6th rank it would outweigh black's rook and win.
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
This match is definitely the highest quality publicly played chess match in history. The moves are so exact, it is kind of scaryAdminX wrote:YES! Games 1, 8, and now 22 really WOW!shrapnel wrote:Now you can ADMIT that you are impressed !AdminX wrote: If Komodo finds a way to way this, I will be truly impressed.
I'd left when Stockfish was +3 up and when I came on later, it was a DRAW
What I can't figure out is whether SF made a mistake or did Komodo do a Houdini to escape ??
PS: I thought surely if Stockfish could get the two pawns to the 6th rank it would outweigh black's rook and win.
They must be using endgame tb's.
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
I can't imagine how SF screwed that up. On both alternative boards it was obvious that both sides saw a forced win. This looks like a bug hit somewhere.
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
[d]7k/1P6/2P2q2/4pB2/8/4Q2K/1r6/8 w - - 3 64M ANSARI wrote:I can't imagine how SF screwed that up. On both alternative boards it was obvious that both sides saw a forced win. This looks like a bug hit somewhere.
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d=32, mt=00:01:14, tl=00:28:58, s=55895 kN/s, n=4178170585, pv=Qf6, tb=64890863, R50=49, wv=4.95
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
And yet no one has figured out exactly where and how Stockfish went wrong ! So why don't you just admit that it was brilliant defensive play by Komodo !?!M ANSARI wrote:I can't imagine how SF screwed that up. On both alternative boards it was obvious that both sides saw a forced win. This looks like a bug hit somewhere.
Its obvious that Komodo using Contempt 0, on this kind of hardware is simply GODLIKE !
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
64 Bc2 wins in all lines and it was in SF pv moves earlier, somehow it played Kg4.shrapnel wrote:And yet no one has figured out exactly where and how Stockfish went wrong ! So why don't you just admit that it was brilliant defensive play by Komodo !?!M ANSARI wrote:I can't imagine how SF screwed that up. On both alternative boards it was obvious that both sides saw a forced win. This looks like a bug hit somewhere.
Its obvious that Komodo using Contempt 0, on this kind of hardware is simply GODLIKE !
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
I believe 59. b7 was a mistake , Qe4 there would be much stronger and possibly keep the win for white.AdminX wrote:YES! Games 1, 8, and now 22 really WOW!shrapnel wrote:Now you can ADMIT that you are impressed !AdminX wrote: If Komodo finds a way to way this, I will be truly impressed.
I'd left when Stockfish was +3 up and when I came on later, it was a DRAW
What I can't figure out is whether SF made a mistake or did Komodo do a Houdini to escape ??
PS: I thought surely if Stockfish could get the two pawns to the 6th rank it would outweigh black's rook and win.
[d] 6rk/1P5p/2P2q2/4p3/4Q3/5BPK/8/8 w - - 1 10
If stockfish has obtained this position , then look at the score:
This starts off with 53. ... Rd2+ as played in the game and then deviates with 59. Qe4 (59. b7 was played in the game)
[pgn][Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "?"]
[Round "-"]
[White "?"]
[Black "?"]
[Result "*"]
[FEN "3r3k/7p/1P6/2P1p1q1/4B3/6P1/6K1/4Q3 b - - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]
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. . . r . . . k
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black to play
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1... Rd2+ 2. Kg1 Qd8 3. Qe3 Rb2 4. Bf3 Rb1+ 5. Kg2 Rb2+ 6. Kh3 Qf6 7. Qe4 Rd2 8. b7 Rd8 9. c6 Rg8
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[d]6rk/1P5p/2P2q2/4p3/4Q3/5BPK/8/8 w - - 1 10
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29 13:37 10.19 1. Kg2 Qd6 2. Qc2 Qc7 3. Qf5 Qd6 4. g4 h5
5. Qxh5+ Kg7 6. Qg5+ Kf7 7. Qc1 e4 8. Qc4+
Kf6 9. Qxe4 Rd8 10. Qf5+ Kg7 11. Qg5+ Kh7
12. Be4+ Kh8 13. Qh5+ Kg7 14. Qh7+ Kf8
15. Qf5+ Ke7 16. Qg5+ Kf7 17. Bd5+ Qxd5+
18. Qxd5+ Rxd5 19. b8=Q Rd2+ 20. Kf3 Rd3+
21. Kf4 Rc3 22. c7 Rc4+ 23. Kg5
29-> 14:19 10.19 1. Kg2 Qd6 2. Qc2 Qc7 3. Qf5 Qd6 4. g4 h5
5. Qxh5+ Kg7 6. Qg5+ Kf7 7. Qc1 e4 8. Qc4+
Kf6 9. Qxe4 Rd8 10. Qf5+ Kg7 11. Qg5+ Kh7
12. Be4+ Kh8 13. Qh5+ Kg7 14. Qh7+ Kf8
15. Qf5+ Ke7 16. Qg5+ Kf7 17. Bd5+ Qxd5+
18. Qxd5+ Rxd5 19. b8=Q Rd2+ 20. Kf3 Rd3+
21. Kf4 Rc3 22. c7 Rc4+ 23. Kg5
? 30 14:30 1/32* 1. Kg2 (63.7Mnps)
Black(1): ?
time=14:30(99%) nodes=55371781284(55.4B) fh1=80% pred=0 nps=63.6M
checks=3.0B qchecks=5.7B fp=12.5B mcp=1.0B reversible=0
LMReductions: 1/505.4M 2/234.6M 3/88.6M 4/3.5M 5/9.6K
null-move (R): 3/1.1B 4/60.3M 5/1.1M 6/39.6K 7/812
splits=1.8M(1.3M) aborts=134.5K joins=1.5M data=43%(43%)
White(1): Kg2
time used: 14:30
Black(1):
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
Well, if it was that simple and obvious, Stockfish would have played it !Maharadja wrote:Bc2 wins in all lines and it was in SF pv moves earlier, somehow it played Kg4.
Maybe you should play instead of Stockfish.
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