A little bit of Cloud Deep Analysis gives 64.Bc2 as best move so far.AdminX wrote:[d]7k/1P6/2P2q2/4pB2/8/4Q2K/1r6/8 w - - 3 64M ANSARI wrote:I can't imagine how SF screwed that up. On both alternative boards it was obvious that both sides saw a forced win. This looks like a bug hit somewhere.
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d=32, mt=00:01:14, tl=00:28:58, s=55895 kN/s, n=4178170585, pv=Qf6, tb=64890863, R50=49, wv=4.95
Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
I see the same here.Maharadja wrote:64 Bc2 wins in all lines and it was in SF pv moves earlier, somehow it played Kg4.shrapnel wrote:And yet no one has figured out exactly where and how Stockfish went wrong ! So why don't you just admit that it was brilliant defensive play by Komodo !?!M ANSARI wrote:I can't imagine how SF screwed that up. On both alternative boards it was obvious that both sides saw a forced win. This looks like a bug hit somewhere.
Its obvious that Komodo using Contempt 0, on this kind of hardware is simply GODLIKE !
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
So probably some sort of prune + horizon effect together resulted in the draw. So simply is a very complicated position.AdminX wrote:I see the same here.Maharadja wrote:64 Bc2 wins in all lines and it was in SF pv moves earlier, somehow it played Kg4.shrapnel wrote:And yet no one has figured out exactly where and how Stockfish went wrong ! So why don't you just admit that it was brilliant defensive play by Komodo !?!M ANSARI wrote:I can't imagine how SF screwed that up. On both alternative boards it was obvious that both sides saw a forced win. This looks like a bug hit somewhere.
Its obvious that Komodo using Contempt 0, on this kind of hardware is simply GODLIKE !
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If Komodo's PV was showing a draw rather than a win, I would agree that this would have been very impressive. But Komodo saw a forced loss on its PV and that was confirmed with SF PV. Somewhere something went wrong and as much as I would like to believe it was good play from Komodo, I think it was something much less mysterious and as simple as a bug somewhere in SF code.shrapnel wrote:And yet no one has figured out exactly where and how Stockfish went wrong ! So why don't you just admit that it was brilliant defensive play by Komodo !?!M ANSARI wrote:I can't imagine how SF screwed that up. On both alternative boards it was obvious that both sides saw a forced win. This looks like a bug hit somewhere.
Its obvious that Komodo using Contempt 0, on this kind of hardware is simply GODLIKE !
Don't get me wrong, I am rooting for Komodo as well and feel the level of play is just simply mind boggling.
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
for me the real rating difference will be on users pcs when sf 7 comes out
and rating lists,the tcec 8 superfinal its only for entertainment purpose,
or promotion or....
and rating lists,the tcec 8 superfinal its only for entertainment purpose,
or promotion or....
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
Plus ten.stavros wrote:for me the real rating difference will be on users pcs when sf 7 comes out
and rating lists,the tcec 8 superfinal its only for entertainment purpose,
or promotion or....
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
Missed chance by SF.. a shame, since it would reignite the match
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
I would take the time control, the opening book, and the hardware of the Super Final over any blitz or bullet time control offered by other ratings lists.stavros wrote:for me the real rating difference will be on users pcs when sf 7 comes out
and rating lists,the tcec 8 superfinal its only for entertainment purpose,
or promotion or....
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+1000MikeB wrote:I would take the time control, the opening book, and the hardware of the Super Final over any blitz or bullet time control offered by other ratings lists.stavros wrote:for me the real rating difference will be on users pcs when sf 7 comes out
and rating lists,the tcec 8 superfinal its only for entertainment purpose,
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Re: Komodo strikes first at the TCEC Superfinal
Don't be too sure about that ; there's a discussion going on right now on TCEC Chat that Bc2 in no way guarantees a Stockfish win !AdminX wrote:A little bit of Cloud Deep Analysis gives 64.Bc2 as best move so far.
Komodo would quite probably have come up with another defensive resource !
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