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I didn't found this games in PGN format elsewhere, I encoded it ...
Source : https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgr ... LdoL7LVHnk

Joel was a young prodigy (2255 Elo in 1987), born in 1973. He reached the IM title in 1988 and the GM title in 1990.
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=600016

[Event "Festival International des Jeux de Cannes 1987"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "1987.02.23"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Hitech"]
[Black "Lautier, Joël"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "French"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. Ngf3 a6 5. exd5 exd5 6. dxc5 Bxc5 7. Nb3 Bd6
8. Bd3 Ne7 9. O-O O-O 10. Nfd4 Ng6 11. Qh5 Nc6 12. Nf3 Nce7 13. Re1 h6 14.
Nbd4 Bd7 15. Be3 Bf4 16. Re2 Qc7 17. Rae1 Rae8 18. Bxg6 fxg6 19. Bxf4 Qxf4
20. Qe5 Qf7 21. Qxe7 Rxe7 22. Rxe7 Qf6 23. Rxd7 g5 24. Ree7 Rc8 25. Rxb7 g4
26. Ne5 h5 27. Nf5 Kh8 28. Nxg7 Rxc2 29. Re8+ Kh7 30. Nf5+ 1-0

With board :
[pgn]
[Event "Festival International des Jeux de Cannes 1987"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "1987.02.23"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Hitech"]
[Black "Lautier, Joël"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "French"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. Ngf3 a6 5. exd5 exd5 6. dxc5 Bxc5 7. Nb3 Bd6
8. Bd3 Ne7 9. O-O O-O 10. Nfd4 Ng6 11. Qh5 Nc6 12. Nf3 Nce7 13. Re1 h6 14.
Nbd4 Bd7 15. Be3 Bf4 16. Re2 Qc7 17. Rae1 Rae8 18. Bxg6 fxg6 19. Bxf4 Qxf4
20. Qe5 Qf7 21. Qxe7 Rxe7 22. Rxe7 Qf6 23. Rxd7 g5 24. Ree7 Rc8 25. Rxb7 g4
26. Ne5 h5 27. Nf5 Kh8 28. Nxg7 Rxc2 29. Re8+ Kh7 30. Nf5+ 1-0
[/pgn]

Vinvin wrote:I didn't found this games in PGN format elsewhere, I encoded it ...
Source : https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgr ... LdoL7LVHnk

Joel was a young prodigy (2255 Elo in 1987), born in 1973. He reached the IM title in 1988 and the GM title in 1990.
http://ratings.fide.com/card.phtml?event=600016

[Event "Festival International des Jeux de Cannes 1987"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "1987.02.23"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Hitech"]
[Black "Lautier, Joël"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "French"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. Ngf3 a6 5. exd5 exd5 6. dxc5 Bxc5 7. Nb3 Bd6
8. Bd3 Ne7 9. O-O O-O 10. Nfd4 Ng6 11. Qh5 Nc6 12. Nf3 Nce7 13. Re1 h6 14.
Nbd4 Bd7 15. Be3 Bf4 16. Re2 Qc7 17. Rae1 Rae8 18. Bxg6 fxg6 19. Bxf4 Qxf4
20. Qe5 Qf7 21. Qxe7 Rxe7 22. Rxe7 Qf6 23. Rxd7 g5 24. Ree7 Rc8 25. Rxb7 g4
26. Ne5 h5 27. Nf5 Kh8 28. Nxg7 Rxc2 29. Re8+ Kh7 30. Nf5+ 1-0

With board :
[pgn]
[Event "Festival International des Jeux de Cannes 1987"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "1987.02.23"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Hitech"]
[Black "Lautier, Joël"]
[Result "1-0"]
[Opening "French"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. Ngf3 a6 5. exd5 exd5 6. dxc5 Bxc5 7. Nb3 Bd6
8. Bd3 Ne7 9. O-O O-O 10. Nfd4 Ng6 11. Qh5 Nc6 12. Nf3 Nce7 13. Re1 h6 14.
Nbd4 Bd7 15. Be3 Bf4 16. Re2 Qc7 17. Rae1 Rae8 18. Bxg6 fxg6 19. Bxf4 Qxf4
20. Qe5 Qf7 21. Qxe7 Rxe7 22. Rxe7 Qf6 23. Rxd7 g5 24. Ree7 Rc8 25. Rxb7 g4
26. Ne5 h5 27. Nf5 Kh8 28. Nxg7 Rxc2 29. Re8+ Kh7 30. Nf5+ 1-0
[/pgn]

Not bad for a 14-year-old boy, but I think that even a Frenchman can not play the French.

SF6 2s/pos analysis at multipv 2.

[pgn]
[Event "Festival International des Jeux de Cannes 1987"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "1987.02.23"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Hitech"]
[Black "Lautier, Joël"]
[Result "1-0"]

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 a6 5.exd5 exd5 6.dxc5 Bxc5 7.Nb3 Bd6 8.Bd3 Ne7 {-0.39/16}
( {Better is} 8...Nf6 9.Qe2+ Be7 10.O-O O-O 11.Bf4 Re8 $14 {-0.19/15} )
9.O-O O-O 10.Nfd4 {+0.17/14}
( {Better is} 10.c3 Nbc6 11.Re1 h6 12.Nbd4 Bd7 13.Be3 $14 {+0.39/15} )
( {Also playable is} 10.Nbd4 Nd7 11.c3 h6 12.Qc2 Nf6 13.Bd2 $14 {+0.31/15} )
10...Ng6 {-0.41/13}
( {Better is} 10...Nd7 11.c3 Ne5 12.Bc2 Bg4 13.f3 Bd7 $14 {-0.17/14} )
( {Also playable is} 10...Nbc6 11.c3 Nxd4 12.Nxd4 Nc6 13.Qh5 g6 $14 {-0.20/14} )
11.Qh5 Nc6 {-0.48/15}
( {Better is} 11...Nd7 12.Bg5 Qc7 13.g3 Nde5 14.Be2 Nc6 $10 {-0.12/14} )
12.Nf3 {+0.26/15}
( {Better is} 12.c3 Nce5 13.Be2 Qh4 14.Qxh4 Nxh4 15.f4 $14 {+0.48/15} )
( {Also playable is} 12.Re1 Nb4 13.Bf1 Qc7 14.c3 Nc6 15.h3 $14 {+0.39/15} )
12...Nce7 {-0.60/13}
( {Better is} 12...Qf6 13.c3 h6 14.Qxd5 Nge7 15.Qh5 Bf5 $14 {-0.26/15} )
13.Re1 {+0.36/15}
( {Better is} 13.Nfd4 Nc6 14.Re1 Qc7 15.Nxc6 bxc6 16.g3 $16 {+0.60/13} )
( {Also playable is} 13.Bg5 h6 14.c3 Bd7 15.Bxe7 Nxe7 16.Rae1 $16 {+0.30/13} )
13...h6 14.Nbd4 Bd7 15.Be3 {+0.40/15}
( {Better is} 15.c3 Nf4 16.Bxf4 Bxf4 17.h3 Rc8 18.g3 $16 {+0.71/13} )
( {Also playable is} 15.Bd2 Qb6 16.c3 Rac8 17.g3 Rfd8 18.b4 $16 {+0.38/13} )
15...Bf4 {-0.72/17}
( {Better is} 15...Qc8 16.h3 Qc7 17.c3 Rae8 18.a3 Nf4 $14 {-0.40/15} )
( {Also playable is} 15...Re8 16.Rad1 Bf4 17.Bxg6 fxg6 18.Qh4 g5 $14 {-0.44/15} )
16.Re2 {+0.40/14}
( {Better is} 16.g3 Bxe3 17.Rxe3 Re8 18.c3 Qb6 19.Rb1 $16 {+0.72/17} )
( {Also playable is} 16.Bxf4 Nxf4 17.Qe5 Nxd3 18.cxd3 Nc6 19.Qxd5 $16 {+0.53/17} )
16...Qc7 {-0.73/16}
( {Better is} 16...Qb6 17.Rb1 Qf6 18.c3 Rfe8 19.g3 Bc7 $14 {-0.40/14} )
( {Also playable is} 16...Qc8 17.h3 a5 18.c3 Re8 19.Bc2 a4 $14 {-0.64/14} )
17.Rae1 Rae8 18.Bxg6 fxg6 {-0.88/18}
( {Better is} 18...Nxg6 19.Qxd5 Re7 20.Bd2 Rxe2 21.Rxe2 Bxd2 $16 {-0.67/17} )
19.Bxf4 Qxf4 {-1.27/19}
( {Better is} 19...Rxf4 20.Qe5 Qxe5 21.Nxe5 Bf5 22.Nxf5 gxf5 $16 {-0.88/18} )
20.Qe5 Qf7 $4 {-4.08/17}
( {Better is} 20...Qxe5 21.Nxe5 Ba4 22.Ne6 Rf5 23.Nc5 Nc6 $16 {-1.29/19} )
( {Also playable is} 20...Nc6 21.Qxf4 Rxf4 22.Rxe8+ Bxe8 23.Rxe8+ Kf7 $16 {-3.78/19} )
21.Qxe7 Rxe7 22.Rxe7 Qf6 23.Rxd7 g5 $2 {-4.98/17}
( {Better is} 23...Rf7 24.Re8+ Kh7 25.Ne6 Rxd7 26.Nf8+ Qxf8 $18 {-4.02/16} )
24.Ree7 Rc8 $2 {-5.33/17}
( {Better is} 24...Rb8 25.h3 Kh8 26.g3 a5 27.Re6 Qf8 $18 {-4.74/15} )
25.Rxb7 {+5.08/17}
( {Better is} 25.Ne6 Kh8 26.Nxg7 g4 27.Ne6 gxf3 28.Rh7+ $18 {+5.33/17} )
25...g4 26.Ne5 h5 $4 {-8.72/19}
( {Better is} 26...Qg5 27.Rxg7+ Qxg7 28.Rxg7+ Kxg7 29.Nxg4 Rb8 $18 {-5.27/18} )
( {Also playable is} 26...a5 27.Ne6 Qxe5 28.Rxg7+ Qxg7 29.Rxg7+ Kh8 $18 {-6.43/18} )
27.Nf5 Kh8 28.Nxg7 Rxc2 $4 {-299.93/17}
( {Better is} 28...Rf8 29.Nd3 Qh6 30.Ne6 Rc8 31.Nef4 Kg8 $18 {-9.05/17} )
( {Also playable is} 28...Qh6 29.Nf7+ Kxg7 30.Nxh6+ Kf6 31.Rf7+ Ke5 $18 {-12.17/17} )
29.Re8+ Kh7 30.Nf5+ 1-0
[/pgn]

Ferdy wrote:SF6 2s/pos analysis at multipv 2.

[pgn]
[Event "Festival International des Jeux de Cannes 1987"]
[Site "Cannes"]
[Date "1987.02.23"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Hitech"]
[Black "Lautier, Joël"]
[Result "1-0"]

1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 a6 5.exd5 exd5 6.dxc5 Bxc5 7.Nb3 Bd6 8.Bd3 Ne7 {-0.39/16}
( {Better is} 8...Nf6 9.Qe2+ Be7 10.O-O O-O 11.Bf4 Re8 $14 {-0.19/15} )
9.O-O O-O 10.Nfd4 {+0.17/14}
( {Better is} 10.c3 Nbc6 11.Re1 h6 12.Nbd4 Bd7 13.Be3 $14 {+0.39/15} )
( {Also playable is} 10.Nbd4 Nd7 11.c3 h6 12.Qc2 Nf6 13.Bd2 $14 {+0.31/15} )
10...Ng6 {-0.41/13}
( {Better is} 10...Nd7 11.c3 Ne5 12.Bc2 Bg4 13.f3 Bd7 $14 {-0.17/14} )
( {Also playable is} 10...Nbc6 11.c3 Nxd4 12.Nxd4 Nc6 13.Qh5 g6 $14 {-0.20/14} )
11.Qh5 Nc6 {-0.48/15}
( {Better is} 11...Nd7 12.Bg5 Qc7 13.g3 Nde5 14.Be2 Nc6 $10 {-0.12/14} )
12.Nf3 {+0.26/15}
( {Better is} 12.c3 Nce5 13.Be2 Qh4 14.Qxh4 Nxh4 15.f4 $14 {+0.48/15} )
( {Also playable is} 12.Re1 Nb4 13.Bf1 Qc7 14.c3 Nc6 15.h3 $14 {+0.39/15} )
12...Nce7 {-0.60/13}
( {Better is} 12...Qf6 13.c3 h6 14.Qxd5 Nge7 15.Qh5 Bf5 $14 {-0.26/15} )
13.Re1 {+0.36/15}
( {Better is} 13.Nfd4 Nc6 14.Re1 Qc7 15.Nxc6 bxc6 16.g3 $16 {+0.60/13} )
( {Also playable is} 13.Bg5 h6 14.c3 Bd7 15.Bxe7 Nxe7 16.Rae1 $16 {+0.30/13} )
13...h6 14.Nbd4 Bd7 15.Be3 {+0.40/15}
( {Better is} 15.c3 Nf4 16.Bxf4 Bxf4 17.h3 Rc8 18.g3 $16 {+0.71/13} )
( {Also playable is} 15.Bd2 Qb6 16.c3 Rac8 17.g3 Rfd8 18.b4 $16 {+0.38/13} )
15...Bf4 {-0.72/17}
( {Better is} 15...Qc8 16.h3 Qc7 17.c3 Rae8 18.a3 Nf4 $14 {-0.40/15} )
( {Also playable is} 15...Re8 16.Rad1 Bf4 17.Bxg6 fxg6 18.Qh4 g5 $14 {-0.44/15} )
16.Re2 {+0.40/14}
( {Better is} 16.g3 Bxe3 17.Rxe3 Re8 18.c3 Qb6 19.Rb1 $16 {+0.72/17} )
( {Also playable is} 16.Bxf4 Nxf4 17.Qe5 Nxd3 18.cxd3 Nc6 19.Qxd5 $16 {+0.53/17} )
16...Qc7 {-0.73/16}
( {Better is} 16...Qb6 17.Rb1 Qf6 18.c3 Rfe8 19.g3 Bc7 $14 {-0.40/14} )
( {Also playable is} 16...Qc8 17.h3 a5 18.c3 Re8 19.Bc2 a4 $14 {-0.64/14} )
17.Rae1 Rae8 18.Bxg6 fxg6 {-0.88/18}
( {Better is} 18...Nxg6 19.Qxd5 Re7 20.Bd2 Rxe2 21.Rxe2 Bxd2 $16 {-0.67/17} )
19.Bxf4 Qxf4 {-1.27/19}
( {Better is} 19...Rxf4 20.Qe5 Qxe5 21.Nxe5 Bf5 22.Nxf5 gxf5 $16 {-0.88/18} )
20.Qe5 Qf7 $4 {-4.08/17}
( {Better is} 20...Qxe5 21.Nxe5 Ba4 22.Ne6 Rf5 23.Nc5 Nc6 $16 {-1.29/19} )
( {Also playable is} 20...Nc6 21.Qxf4 Rxf4 22.Rxe8+ Bxe8 23.Rxe8+ Kf7 $16 {-3.78/19} )
21.Qxe7 Rxe7 22.Rxe7 Qf6 23.Rxd7 g5 $2 {-4.98/17}
( {Better is} 23...Rf7 24.Re8+ Kh7 25.Ne6 Rxd7 26.Nf8+ Qxf8 $18 {-4.02/16} )
24.Ree7 Rc8 $2 {-5.33/17}
( {Better is} 24...Rb8 25.h3 Kh8 26.g3 a5 27.Re6 Qf8 $18 {-4.74/15} )
25.Rxb7 {+5.08/17}
( {Better is} 25.Ne6 Kh8 26.Nxg7 g4 27.Ne6 gxf3 28.Rh7+ $18 {+5.33/17} )
25...g4 26.Ne5 h5 $4 {-8.72/19}
( {Better is} 26...Qg5 27.Rxg7+ Qxg7 28.Rxg7+ Kxg7 29.Nxg4 Rb8 $18 {-5.27/18} )
( {Also playable is} 26...a5 27.Ne6 Qxe5 28.Rxg7+ Qxg7 29.Rxg7+ Kh8 $18 {-6.43/18} )
27.Nf5 Kh8 28.Nxg7 Rxc2 $4 {-299.93/17}
( {Better is} 28...Rf8 29.Nd3 Qh6 30.Ne6 Rc8 31.Nef4 Kg8 $18 {-9.05/17} )
( {Also playable is} 28...Qh6 29.Nf7+ Kxg7 30.Nxh6+ Kf6 31.Rf7+ Ke5 $18 {-12.17/17} )
29.Re8+ Kh7 30.Nf5+ 1-0
[/pgn]

I think Vincent posted that game on purpose, to deride humans...

Even playing unambitiously, white should stay with a definite advantage in the French.

For example, reaching the theoretical position at move 10:

[d]rnbq1rk1/1p2nppp/p2b4/3p4/3N4/1N1B4/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1 b - - 7 10

I do not believe white has just 17cps advantage, as SF thinks, but at least a bit more. A central d4/e4 isolated pawn is due much more penalty, especially when blocked as in this case by Nd4.

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:

Ferdy wrote:SF6 2s/pos analysis at multipv 2.
...

I think Vincent posted that game on purpose, to deride humans...

Even playing unambitiously, white should stay with a definite advantage in the French.

For example, reaching the theoretical position at move 10:

rnbq1rk1/1p2nppp/p2b4/3p4/3N4/1N1B4/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1 b - - 7 10

I do not believe white has just 17cps advantage, as SF thinks, but at least a bit more. A central d4/e4 isolated pawn is due much more penalty, especially when blocked as in this case by Nd4.

Thanks Lyudmil but you overestimate my positional understanding !
I posted this game because it have a high historical value. There were only few games between computers and strong humans at this time (and even less few computers wins over strong humans).

Vinvin wrote:

Lyudmil Tsvetkov wrote:

Ferdy wrote:SF6 2s/pos analysis at multipv 2.
...

I think Vincent posted that game on purpose, to deride humans...

Even playing unambitiously, white should stay with a definite advantage in the French.

For example, reaching the theoretical position at move 10:

rnbq1rk1/1p2nppp/p2b4/3p4/3N4/1N1B4/PPP2PPP/R1BQ1RK1 b - - 7 10

I do not believe white has just 17cps advantage, as SF thinks, but at least a bit more. A central d4/e4 isolated pawn is due much more penalty, especially when blocked as in this case by Nd4.

Thanks Lyudmil but you overestimate my positional understanding !
I posted this game because it have a high historical value. There were only few games between computers and strong humans at this time (and even less few computers wins over strong humans).

Curiously, antipositional opening or not, I think Rybka started to play the French (when not following book moves) when it got singular extensions. At least I think there might be a connection with SE because this line has a lot of forced moves. Anyway,this is what my slightly modified Stockfish now wants to play from the start position, Tarrasch variation and all, against itself

[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq -

Engine: Rainbow Serpent Sf20150607_001 MOD MP (512 MB)
by Tord Romstad, Marco Costalba and Joona Kiiski

28/42 5:09 +0.15 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nf6
5.exd5 Nxd5 6.Bc4 cxd4 7.Nb3 Nc6
8.O-O Be7 9.Nbxd4 O-O 10.c3 Nxd4
11.Nxd4 Bf6 12.Re1 Qb6 13.Nf3 Bd7
14.Ne5 (462.783.163) 1497

29/42 6:09 +0.16 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Nc3 Bc5
5.d3 O-O 6.O-O h6 7.Re1 Ng4 8.Re2 Nd4
9.Nxd4 Bxd4 10.h3 Nf6 11.Nd5 Nxd5
12.Bxd5 d6 13.c3 Bb6 14.Be3 (557.084.396) 1507

30/44 8:04 +0.22++ 1.e4 (731.073.583) 1509

30/46 9:38 +0.16-- 1.e4 e6 (898.309.014) 1553

30/46 10:30 +0.21 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nf6
5.exd5 exd5 6.Bb5+ Bd7 7.Bxd7+ Nbxd7
8.O-O Be7 9.dxc5 Nxc5 10.Nb3 Nce4
11.Nfd4 O-O 12.Nf5 Re8 13.Be3 Bf8
14.c3 (986.500.569) 1564

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31/56 16:51 +0.20 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nf6
5.exd5 exd5 6.Bb5+ Bd7 7.Bxd7+ Nbxd7
8.O-O Be7 9.dxc5 Nxc5 10.Nb3 Nce4
11.Nfd4 O-O 12.Nf5 Re8 13.c3 Rc8
14.Nbd4 (1.653.845.704) 1634

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32/56 27:25 +0.15 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nf6
5.exd5 exd5 6.Bb5+ Bd7 7.Bxd7+ Nbxd7
8.O-O Be7 9.dxc5 Nxc5 10.Nb3 Nce4
11.Nfd4 O-O 12.Re1 Re8 13.Be3 Qd7
14.Bf4 (2.727.782.050) 1658

33/56 38:20 +0.22++ 1.e4 (4.029.173.856) 1751

33/56 43:52 +0.23 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nf6
5.exd5 exd5 6.Bb5+ Bd7 7.Bxd7+ Nbxd7
8.O-O Be7 9.dxc5 Nxc5 10.Nb3 Nce4
11.Nfd4 O-O 12.Nf5 Re8 13.Nxe7+ Rxe7
14.c3 (4.707.668.806) 1787


[pgn]
[Event ""]
[Site "DEVO4"]
[Date "2015.06.11"]
[Round ""]
[White "Sf20150607_001 MOD MP"]
[Black "Sf20150607_001 MOD MP"]
[WhiteElo "3100"]
[BlackElo "3100"]
[ECO "C52"]
[Result ""]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. Ngf3 Nf6 5. exd5 exd5
6. Bb5+ Bd7 7. Bxd7+ Nbxd7 8. O-O Be7 9. dxc5 Nxc5 10. Nb3
Nce4 11. Nfd4 O-O 12. Nf5 Re8 13. c3 Rc8 14. Nbd4
[/pgn]

11... O-O is not often played anymore, Shredder openings mentions 1977 as a year here, not sure what that means, stemgame?