Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

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Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

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Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?
The engines are placed in alphabetical order.
You can rate as many engines as you want.
Involved 79 chess engines.

You can vote here:
https://modernballots.com/elections/9rgzgy9s/vote/
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Re: Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

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So far 61 votes:

1) Stockfish
2) Komodo
3) Houdini
4) Hiarcs
5) Rybka
6) Shredder
7) Critter
8) Gull
9) Junior
10) Zappa Mexico
11) Vitruvius
12) Chess Tiger
13) Fritz
14) Chessmaster
15) Texel
16) Fruit
17) Fire
18) IvanHoe
19) Arasan
20) Crafty
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Re: Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

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Kefalonian-Greece wrote:Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?
The engines are placed in alphabetical order.
You can rate as many engines as you want.
Involved 79 chess engines.

You can vote here:
https://modernballots.com/elections/9rgzgy9s/vote/
You can create a poll here.

See http://talkchess.com/forum/faq.php#17
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Re: Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

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Sorry.
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Re: Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

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Between the top two on your list I prefer Komodo more. In long Time controls, which I prefer, it seems to do better. In the game below I liked how it handled the black side of the opening compared to Stockfish for a example.

[pgn]
[Event "HEIOUS-CODE, 120m/40+60m/20+30m"]
[Site "Kennesaw, Ga"]
[Date "2015.05.26"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Komodo 9 64-bit"]
[Black "Stockfish 6 64 BMI2"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C54"]
[Annotator "0.92;0.96"]
[PlyCount "241"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:1800"]

{Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz 2693 MHz W=26.5 plies; 2,732kN/s;
2,543,613 TBAs; Opening Tree 2015.ctg B=31.9 plies; 2,714kN/s; 1,269,342 TBAs;
Opening Tree 2015.ctg} 1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 1} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nc6 {B 0} 3. Bc4 {B 0}
Bc5 {B 0} 4. c3 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 5. d3 {B 0} d6 {B 0} 6. O-O {B 0} Bg4 {B 0} 7.
h3 {B 0} Bh5 {B 0} 8. Nbd2 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 9. Re1 {B 0} h6 {B 0} 10. Nf1 {B 0}
Qe7 {B 0} 11. Ng3 {B 0} Bg6 {B 0} 12. Nh4 {B 0 Both last book move} Kh8 {0.96/
33 202} 13. b4 {0.92/23 91} Bb6 {0.93/35 188} 14. a4 {0.87/26 182} a6 {0.92/31
0} 15. Qf3 {0.89/28 535 (a5)} Ng8 {0.86/34 286} 16. Nhf5 {0.82/27 97} Qf6 {0.
83/34 169 (Qd7)} 17. a5 {0.82/26 344} Ba7 {0.86/36 0} 18. Bb2 {0.78/25 500
(Bd2)} Nge7 {0.66/31 297 (Rad8)} 19. Rad1 {0.72/29 371 (Bb3)} Bxf5 {0.74/32 276
} 20. Nxf5 {0.72/31 370} Rab8 {0.71/34 0 (g6)} 21. Bb3 {0.82/27 330} Kh7 {0.74/
34 145 (g6)} 22. Bc1 {0.84/27 161 (Re2)} Ra8 {0.79/31 494 (Nxf5)} 23. Re2 {1.
00/25 225 (Ba4)} Rae8 {0.79/33 1091 (Ng8)} 24. Qg4 {0.99/26 262 (Bd2)} Rd8 {0.
85/31 371 (Nxf5)} 25. Nh4 {0.99/26 217} Rde8 {0.86/31 305 (Ng6)} 26. Rc2 {0.97/
26 226 (Bd2)} Rd8 {0.81/30 201 (Rb8)} 27. Nf3 {1.09/27 267 (Bc4)} Rc8 {1.01/33
346 (Qg6)} 28. h4 {1.13/27 166 (Ba3)} Qg6 {0.95/34 231 (Rcd8)} 29. Ng5+ {1.14/
27 101} Kg8 {0.98/37 573} 30. h5 {1.12/33 94} Qf6 {1.04/35 91} 31. Re2 {1.13/
33 234 (Nf3)} Rcd8 {1.05/34 226 (Kh8)} 32. Bd2 {1.12/31 237} b6 {1.00/35 442
(Kh8)} 33. axb6 {1.07/26 182} Bxb6 {0.94/35 0} 34. Nf3 {1.06/28 308} a5 {0.84/
34 20} 35. b5 {1.04/27 68} Na7 {0.96/34 131} 36. Bc4 {1.06/29 521 (Ba4)} c6 {
0.83/33 224} 37. bxc6 {1.09/29 329} Naxc6 {0.82/34 0} 38. Nh2 {0.98/28 388
(Ra1)} Kh8 {0.67/32 333} 39. Qg3 {0.88/27 0 (Ra1)} Ng8 {0.75/31 303} 40. Ng4 {
0.94/28 50 (Ree1)} Qe7 {0.50/32 249} 41. Be3 {0.80/27 246 (Ne3)} Bxe3 {0.64/34
195 (Qc7)} 42. Nxe3 {0.86/28 129} Nf6 {0.66/35 153} 43. Qf3 {0.84/28 222} Qc7 {
0.72/35 63} 44. Ra2 {0.83/27 41} Ra8 {0.72/34 137} 45. Rb1 {0.80/27 264 (Rda1)}
Rfb8 {0.60/32 395 (Nd8)} 46. Rba1 {0.78/28 172} Nd8 {0.59/31 0} 47. Qf5 {0.75/
27 145} Nc6 {0.60/34 197} 48. Ra3 {0.74/30 519 (Ra4)} Ra7 {0.52/33 292 (Rb2)}
49. Ra4 {0.71/28 226} Ne7 {0.53/34 109 (Rab7)} 50. Qf3 {0.61/26 62} Kg8 {0.50/
33 123 (Nc8)} 51. g3 {0.65/26 154 (R4a3)} Rba8 {0.49/32 169 (Nc8)} 52. Kg2 {0.
61/25 202 (R4a3)} Qd7 {0.34/34 355 (Nc8)} 53. d4 {0.69/25 282 (Qe2)} Qc7 {0.38/
32 206} 54. R1a2 {0.66/28 361} Rf8 {0.38/36 0 (Nc8)} 55. R2a3 {0.70/25 83} Nh7
{0.43/32 377 (Rd8)} 56. Qd1 {0.68/26 190} Ng5 {0.37/33 49 (Nf6)} 57. Bd3 {0.68/
25 226 (Qg4)} Rfa8 {0.48/30 326} 58. Be2 {0.55/26 0} Nc8 {0.52/31 243 (exd4)}
59. Rc4 {0.77/22 40 (Qa1)} Qe7 {0.60/31 96} 60. d5 {0.83/25 18} Qd8 {0.61/31
103} 61. Qb1 {0.75/30 150} Nh7 {0.61/34 85} 62. Rc6 {0.84/29 10} Ne7 {0.66/33
48} 63. Rb6 {0.80/31 51} Nc8 {0.75/33 53} 64. Rb7 {0.81/29 130} Nf6 {0.68/33 9
(Rxb7)} 65. Nc4 {0.74/31 164} Kf8 {0.91/34 39 (Rxb7)} 66. Bf3 {0.96/27 80} a4 {
0.89/36 0 (Ra6)} 67. Ra2 {0.95/28 75 (Rb4)} Ra6 {1.05/34 112} 68. Qb4 {1.30/28
29} Nd7 {1.20/34 64} 69. Be2 {1.05/29 56} Kg8 {1.15/35 0} 70. Nb2 {1.03/28 43}
Rb6 {1.19/35 12} 71. Rxb6 {1.38/27 41} Ndxb6 {1.21/35 68 (Qxb6)} 72. Nxa4 {1.
21/30 83} Nd7 {1.27/36 0} 73. Qc4 {1.16/31 270 (Rb2)} Rb8 {1.15/33 45} 74. Qc6
{1.17/28 80 (Rb2)} Nf6 {1.08/32 78} 75. Bf3 {1.02/30 20} Ne7 {1.19/32 30 (Qd7)}
76. Qa6 {1.25/25 36 (Qc4)} Ra8 {1.17/30 36} 77. Qc4 {1.22/26 21} Qa5 {1.14/31
37 (Nh7)} 78. Bd1 {1.26/24 37} Rc8 {1.02/32 67} 79. Qd3 {1.44/30 103} Rc7 {1.
18/32 23} 80. Rb2 {1.40/26 27} Nc8 {1.29/33 11} 81. Rb8 {1.46/27 13} Nd7 {1.37/
32 39} 82. Rb4 {1.43/28 42} Nf6 {1.43/32 0} 83. Be2 {1.50/26 58 (Bf3)} Qa7 {1.
43/32 50 (Kf8)} 84. Qc2 {1.47/26 20 (Bf3)} Kf8 {1.32/33 103 (Kh7)} 85. Qb2 {1.
55/26 28 (Qb3)} Kg8 {1.31/33 49} 86. Bf3 {1.57/27 27} g6 {1.58/34 126 (Kh7)}
87. Nb6 {1.46/24 28 (hxg6)} gxh5 {1.43/31 25} 88. Nc4 {1.55/26 26} Qc5 {1.49/
31 3} 89. Qe2 {1.46/25 29} h4 {1.44/33 3} 90. gxh4 {1.51/21 9} Ne7 {1.58/32 15}
91. h5 {1.48/23 17 (Qe3)} Ne8 {1.45/29 21 (Rc8)} 92. Qb2 {1.58/21 18 (Rb8)} Kg7
{1.71/28 49 (Rc8)} 93. Be2 {1.62/22 14} Ra7 {1.73/27 3} 94. Ne3 {1.60/23 9} f5
{1.88/28 15 (Nf6)} 95. Rb5 {1.84/23 27} Qc7 {1.91/29 1} 96. exf5 {1.89/21 7}
Ng8 {2.04/28 10} 97. c4 {1.91/22 2} Kh8 {1.95/26 33 (Ngf6)} 98. Rb8 {2.18/22
26 (c5)} Nef6 {2.23/27 48 (Ngf6)} 99. Nf1 {1.94/22 11 (Kf1)} Kh7 {2.43/27 41}
100. Ng3 {2.35/24 12 (Qb1)} Nd7 {2.24/29 12} 101. Re8 {2.30/24 8} Nc5 {3.01/29
28} 102. f6 {3.20/26 18} Nxf6 {3.11/30 0} 103. Qb1+ {3.20/24 9 (Rf8)} e4 {3.01/
29 11} 104. Rf8 {3.47/25 15} Qg7 {3.13/30 0} 105. Qb8 {3.47/25 6} Nfd7 {3.36/
30 7} 106. Qxa7 {3.80/26 10} Nxf8 {3.68/32 3} 107. Qxg7+ {3.95/26 1} Kxg7 {3.
76/26 0} 108. Nf5+ {4.01/26 5} Kf6 {4.14/29 5} 109. Nxd6 {4.31/27 12} Nh7 {4.
38/31 9} 110. Kg3 {4.74/28 21 (f4)} Ng5 {4.11/26 9} 111. Kf4 {4.82/28 18} Nh3+
{4.73/30 7} 112. Ke3 {4.89/26 2} Ng5 {4.79/30 12} 113. Nc8 {4.92/27 3} Ke5 {4.
70/29 12} 114. Ne7 {5.07/27 10} Nf7 {5.15/29 22} 115. Ng6+ {5.11/25 5} Kf6 {5.
49/30 34 (Kd6)} 116. Kd4 {5.48/23 3} Nb3+ {5.67/27 5} 117. Kxe4 {5.79/28 13}
Nc5+ {5.69/30 0} 118. Kd4 {6.56/22 2} Nb3+ {7.06/27 6} 119. Kc3 {7.32/25 2} Nc5
{8.21/28 11 (Nc1)} 120. Kb4 {7.78/24 3} Ne4 {9.04/28 3} 121. f4 {8.24/26 0} 1-0


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[pgn]
[Event "HEIOUS-CODE, 120m/40+60m/20+30m"]
[Site "Kennesaw, Ga"]
[Date "2015.05.27"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Stockfish 6 64 BMI2"]
[Black "Komodo 9 64-bit"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[ECO "C54"]
[Annotator "0.80;0.81"]
[PlyCount "115"]
[TimeControl "40/7200:20/3600:1800"]

{Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz 2693 MHz W=34.8 plies; 2,718kN/s;
22,396,554 TBAs; Opening Tree 2015.ctg B=30.0 plies; 2,753kN/s; 44,548,546
TBAs; Opening Tree 2015.ctg} 1. e4 {B 0} e5 {B 1} 2. Nf3 {B 0} Nc6 {B 0} 3. Bc4
{B 0} Bc5 {B 0} 4. c3 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 5. d3 {B 0} d6 {B 0} 6. O-O {B 0} Bg4 {
B 0} 7. h3 {B 0} Bh5 {B 0} 8. Nbd2 {B 0} O-O {B 0} 9. Re1 {B 0} h6 {B 0} 10.
Nf1 {B 0} Qe7 {B 0} 11. Ng3 {B 0} Bg6 {B 0} 12. Nh4 {B 0 Both last book move}
Kh7 {0.81/25 214} 13. b4 {0.80/31 338} Bb6 {0.82/30 739} 14. Nhf5 {0.84/33 14}
Qd7 {0.80/30 598 (Qd8)} 15. Qf3 {0.82/30 221} Ng8 {0.73/28 9} 16. Qg4 {0.74/29
315 (a4)} Nf6 {0.46/26 188 (Qd8)} 17. Qh4 {0.56/30 223} Ng8 {0.35/28 632} 18.
Bg5 {0.62/34 0 (Ne3)} Nd8 {0.33/25 167 (Rfe8)} 19. a4 {0.43/29 322 (Rad1)} Ne6
{0.19/26 186} 20. Bc1 {0.27/32 652} c6 {0.14/30 172} 21. a5 {0.11/31 442} Bc7 {
0.21/31 378} 22. Bb3 {0.22/30 0} d5 {0.20/28 209} 23. Qg4 {0.16/30 283} Nf4 {
0.25/27 125} 24. Qf3 {0.20/30 167} Nf6 {0.27/26 196 (Kh8)} 25. Nh4 {0.31/29 272
} Rae8 {0.23/26 186 (Rad8)} 26. Rd1 {0.40/27 357 (Bc2)} Qd8 {0.19/25 372 (Qe7)}
27. c4 {0.20/29 370} Ne6 {0.24/28 275} 28. Qe2 {0.22/33 59} Nd4 {0.14/27 45}
29. Qb2 {0.26/31 232} dxe4 {0.14/30 59 (Bh5)} 30. Nxg6 {0.00/32 283} fxg6 {0.
13/32 47} 31. dxe4 {0.00/35 904} c5 {0.13/31 0 (Nh5)} 32. bxc5 {0.19/32 204
(Ba4)} Nd7 {0.18/30 437} 33. Ba4 {0.34/37 4} Nxc5 {0.30/29 164} 34. Bxe8 {0.25/
37 136} Nf3+ {0.26/30 92} 35. gxf3 {0.33/38 147} Qxd1+ {0.23/31 77} 36. Nf1 {
0.27/36 144} Nd3 {0.39/31 206} 37. Qd2 {0.44/37 199} Qxd2 {0.35/30 59} 38. Bxd2
{0.33/35 233} Rxe8 {0.41/31 260} 39. Ne3 {0.26/36 50} Rc8 {0.35/31 344} 40. Bc3
{0.45/38 284 (Kf1)} Nf4 {0.36/29 131} 41. Kf1 {0.47/38 141} g5 {0.18/30 52} 42.
Rd1 {0.30/36 337} b6 {0.15/31 110 (Bb8)} 43. a6 {0.48/36 331 (axb6)} Bb8 {0.40/
30 226 (Ne6)} 44. Rd7 {0.39/35 248} b5 {0.25/29 8} 45. Rb7 {0.39/37 228 (Ke1)}
bxc4 {0.20/31 140} 46. Nf5 {0.28/35 43} Ne6 {0.17/32 122} 47. Ke1 {0.46/36 255}
h5 {0.42/31 649 (Rg8)} 48. Ke2 {0.51/33 196 (Kd1)} Rd8 {0.03/31 206} 49. Bd2 {
0.37/35 77} Nd4+ {0.03/32 137 (Rc8)} 50. Nxd4 {0.00/36 176} exd4 {0.03/34 95}
51. Bxg5 {0.00/39 98} Rf8 {0.03/33 45} 52. Rd7 {0.00/40 210} d3+ {0.03/34 90}
53. Kd2 {0.00/38 35 (Ke3)} Rxf3 {0.00/31 140} 54. Kc3 {0.00/39 0} Rxh3 {0.00/
32 251 (Rxf2)} 55. Rb7 {0.00/38 224} d2+ {0.00/34 77} 56. Kxd2 {0.00/40 84} Be5
{0.00/35 330 (Rd3+)} 57. Be3 {0.00/42 280 (Rxa7)} Bd4 {0.00/38 423} 58. Bxd4 {
0.00/49 0 Draw accepted} 1/2-1/2

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Re: Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

Post by Kefalonian-Greece »

Louis Zulli, I created a poll on this site, because it could put up to 79 engines and voters to rated as many want, by 2 to 5 points.

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My not-very-scientific impression is that Komodo's style is a little boring, but that's probably the sign of having a very balanced evaluation. It doesn't do anything badly.

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Re: Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

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jdart wrote:My not-very-scientific impression is that Komodo's style is a little boring, but that's probably the sign of having a very balanced evaluation. It doesn't do anything badly.

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Re: Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

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Well, orthodox Chess is basically a boring game. So if you play it well... :wink:
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Re: Whose chess engines, you like more, their style of play?

Post by Eraserheads »

The Top Engines of today more or less exhibit pretty similar playing styles (I guess there is little room for individuality at the very top levels).

Some of the more pronounced engines, stylistically speaking, are Bright 0.4a and Thinker. These are the engines whose styles you will recognize merely by looking at their moves.