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Laskos
Posts: 10948 Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:21 pm
Full name: Kai Laskos
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by Laskos » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:20 pm
Werewolf wrote: Sorry can I just clarify what we're saying here?
Komodo 8 on 32 threads is around 30 elo stronger than Komodo 8 on 16 threads?
On all my testsuites it's the other way around, but that may be just down to small sample size etc.
My prediction is 30. Andreas as of now gets 27.
You get 32 thread Komodo 8 weaker than 16 thread on testsuites? Don't know why, generally testsuites are not very well representing the strength. For Komodo even TTD is not the measure, so we are left only with playing actual games, and many of them. That is what Andreas is doing. The hard and the only way.
fastgm
Posts: 818 Joined: Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:57 pm
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by fastgm » Fri Oct 24, 2014 1:10 am
Hello Kai,
here the final result:
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Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
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1 Komodo 8 T32 : 3013 7 7 3000 53.9 % 2987 71.4 %
2 Komodo 8 T16 : 2987 7 7 3000 46.1 % 3013 71.4 %
Wins = 545
Draws = 2141
Losses = 314
Av.Op. Elo = 3000
Result : 1615.5/3000 (+545,=2141,-314)
Perf. : 53.9 %
Margins :
68 % : (+ 0.5,- 0.5 %) -> [ 53.4, 54.3 %]
95 % : (+ 0.9,- 0.9 %) -> [ 52.9, 54.8 %]
99.7 % : (+ 1.4,- 1.4 %) -> [ 52.4, 55.3 %]
Elo : 3027
Margins :
68 % : (+ 3,- 3) -> [3023,3030]
95 % : (+ 7,- 7) -> [3020,3033]
99.7 % : (+ 10,- 10) -> [3017,3037]
Games : 3000 (finished)
White Wins : 569 (19.0 %)
Black Wins : 290 ( 9.7 %)
Draws : 2141 (71.4 %)
White Perf. : 54.6 %
Black Perf. : 45.4 %
Individual statistics:
1 Komodo 8 T32 : 3013 3000 (+545,=2141,-314), 53.9 %
2 Komodo 8 T16 : 2987 3000 (+314,=2141,-545), 46.1 %
Laskos
Posts: 10948 Joined: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:21 pm
Full name: Kai Laskos
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by Laskos » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:47 am
fastgm wrote: Hello Kai,
here the final result:
Code: Select all
Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
-----------------------------------------------------------------
1 Komodo 8 T32 : 3013 7 7 3000 53.9 % 2987 71.4 %
2 Komodo 8 T16 : 2987 7 7 3000 46.1 % 3013 71.4 %
Wins = 545
Draws = 2141
Losses = 314
Av.Op. Elo = 3000
Result : 1615.5/3000 (+545,=2141,-314)
Perf. : 53.9 %
Margins :
68 % : (+ 0.5,- 0.5 %) -> [ 53.4, 54.3 %]
95 % : (+ 0.9,- 0.9 %) -> [ 52.9, 54.8 %]
99.7 % : (+ 1.4,- 1.4 %) -> [ 52.4, 55.3 %]
Elo : 3027
Margins :
68 % : (+ 3,- 3) -> [3023,3030]
95 % : (+ 7,- 7) -> [3020,3033]
99.7 % : (+ 10,- 10) -> [3017,3037]
Games : 3000 (finished)
White Wins : 569 (19.0 %)
Black Wins : 290 ( 9.7 %)
Draws : 2141 (71.4 %)
White Perf. : 54.6 %
Black Perf. : 45.4 %
Individual statistics:
1 Komodo 8 T32 : 3013 3000 (+545,=2141,-314), 53.9 %
2 Komodo 8 T16 : 2987 3000 (+314,=2141,-545), 46.1 %
Thank you very much for this excellent test, and for all your tests. I will prepare a post in context of arguments about the scaling with number of threads.