Naum 4.6 (64-bit only) free to you all!

[reflectionofpower]

I did not see a convincing evidence for these claims.

1.-the above link ( http://computer-chess.org/doku.php?id=c ... ngine_list ) belongs to ComputerChessWiki (admim: Mr.Ron Murawski - a well-known programmer)

2.- http://en.chessbase.com/post/a-gro-misc ... -part-two-

3.- http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40795

Enough ?

HSvI

Add please:

4.- http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforu ... ?tid=23488

HS vI

Number 4 link says,"access denied"

[stagehand]

Well as someone who purchased Naum (many moons ago) it is nice to see the updated version has now been made available to the general public at last. It has been used (updated version) in a couple of tournaments; which I could not myself understand when those that paid a lot of money for that engine were not able to get any updates.

As for being a clone of Rybka etc, if I remember it was on the market before or at the same time as Rybka, its playing 'style' is much the same. Myself I do not care one bit if (A) copies (B) and then (C) improves on both, that's how you get progress!

[Uri Blass]

I did not see a convincing evidence for these claims.

1.-the above link ( http://computer-chess.org/doku.php?id=c ... ngine_list ) belongs to ComputerChessWiki (admim: Mr.Ron Murawski - a well-known programmer)

2.- http://en.chessbase.com/post/a-gro-misc ... -part-two-

3.- http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40795

Enough ?

HSvI

No
Similarity tests showed a similarity between naum and rybka and not a simlarity between naum and Fruit.

If you say that Naum is a fruit derivative only because the programmer of naum learned a lot from rybka and the programmer of rybka learned a lot from fruit then almost every chess program is a derivative.

[Günther Höhne]

In this diagram shows a strong relationship to Naum-Strelka.

http://users.telenet.be/chesslogik/images/6xyk.jpg

Regards
Günther

[Sedat Canbaz]

sim version 3
------ Naum 4.6 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0) ------
59.41 Strelka 2.0 B (time: 50 ms scale: 1.0)
57.38 Murka 3 x64 UCI (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
57.00 Rybka 3 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
55.32 RobboLito 0.085g3 w32 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
52.73 Critter 0.90 64-bit SSE4 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
52.59 Stockfish 1.5 JA 64bit (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
52.22 Stockfish 2.1 JA 64bit (time: 50 ms scale: 1.0)
51.69 Stockfish 2.1 JA 64bit (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
51.64 Stockfish 1.7.1 JA (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
51.57 Komodo64 2.03 DC (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
51.34 Fruit 2.1 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
50.97 Stockfish 1.7 JA 64bit (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
50.23 Stockfish 140614 64 SSE4.2 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
49.90 Bobcat 3.25 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
49.44 Octochess revision 5190 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
49.20 MinkoChess 1.3 x64 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
48.88 Gull 3 x64 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
48.68 Daydreamer 1.75 JA (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
48.19 cheng4 0.36a (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
47.96 Cyrano 0.6b17 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
46.20 Rodent 1.4 (build 2) (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
44.99 Vajolet 2.48 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
41.84 Igorrit 0.086v8_x64 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
40.35 Booot 5.2.0(64) (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
27.97 Arasan 17.2 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)


Btw,
It looks like Naum is more near to Rybka derivative !)
Note also, as far as I remember Naum 4.2 was above 60% close to Rybka 3, based Pia's sim test results!
And in my eyes too,
Any engine which is above 55% of similarity is under lupe )!

Hopes helps,
Sedat

[Sedat Canbaz]

One question (for those who claim that Rybka is clone of Fruit)
If Rybka is clone of Fruit, why the similarity data show us 48 % ???


sim version 3
------ Rybka 3 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0) ------
61.79 RobboLito 0.085g3 w32 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
57.00 Naum 4.6 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
56.98 Murka 3 x64 UCI (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
55.12 Critter 0.90 64-bit SSE4 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
53.69 Stockfish 2.1 JA 64bit (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
53.44 Stockfish 2.1 JA 64bit (time: 50 ms scale: 1.0)
53.29 Strelka 2.0 B (time: 50 ms scale: 1.0)
52.82 Komodo64 2.03 DC (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
52.51 Stockfish 1.5 JA 64bit (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
52.10 Stockfish 1.7 JA 64bit (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
51.69 Stockfish 1.7.1 JA (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
50.50 Gull 3 x64 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
50.46 Stockfish 140614 64 SSE4.2 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
49.51 MinkoChess 1.3 x64 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
48.54 Fruit 2.1 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
48.54 Bobcat 3.25 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
47.54 Daydreamer 1.75 JA (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
47.29 Octochess revision 5190 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
46.71 cheng4 0.36a (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
46.55 Rodent 1.4 (build 2) (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
46.33 Cyrano 0.6b17 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
44.32 Vajolet 2.48 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
42.45 Igorrit 0.086v8_x64 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
40.25 Booot 5.2.0(64) (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)
27.40 Arasan 17.2 (time: 100 ms scale: 1.0)


Yes....we lost a great programmer (Vasik Rajlich)
A real genius in chess programming !

A special note for Vas,
I miss you a lot ! Believe me your engine will live forever in my heart as KING !!


Best,
Sedat

[Sylwy]

If you say that Naum is a fruit derivative only because the programmer of naum learned a lot from rybka and the programmer of rybka learned a lot from fruit then almost every chess program is a derivative.

http://computer-chess.org/doku.php?id=c ... ngine_list

S R

[reflectionofpower]

One question (for those who claim that Rybka is clone of Fruit)
If Rybka is clone of Fruit, why the similarity data show us 48 % ???


Yes....we lost a great programmer (Vasik Rajlich)
A real genius in chess programming !

A special note for Vas,
I miss you a lot ! Believe me your engine will live forever in my heart as KING !!


Best,
Sedat

I would really like to see a Rybka 5 for sure. I am sure it would be a monster or will this be like Fischer winning the WC and then that's it?

[Sylwy]

Number 4 link says,"access denied"

Otherwise the access is denied in this section !

S R

[Sedat Canbaz]

One question (for those who claim that Rybka is clone of Fruit)
If Rybka is clone of Fruit, why the similarity data show us 48 % ???


Yes....we lost a great programmer (Vasik Rajlich)
A real genius in chess programming !

A special note for Vas,
I miss you a lot ! Believe me your engine will live forever in my heart as KING !!


Best,
Sedat

I would really like to see a Rybka 5 for sure. I am sure it would be a monster or will this be like Fischer winning the WC and then that's it?

I hardly doubt that we will see ever Rybka 5

After those BIG injustices over Vas...I don't think he will come on the scene again...

Sad, but true...


Best,
Sedat