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Re: Rhetoric 1.4.1 5min blitz against spark 1.0.

Post by Henryval » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:48 pm

One more exciting game...Deep Shredder outplayed by Rhetoric

[pgn][Event "3 Minuten/Partie + 3 Sekunden/Zug"]
[Site "rhetoricspiesrutenlauf33, JOEC"]
[Date "2014.09.25"]
[Round "3.5"]
[White "Rhetoric 1.4.1 x64 66"]
[Black "Deep Shredder 12 UCI"]
[Result "1-0"]
[PlyCount "85"]
[EventDate "2014.??.??"]

1. b3 {B 0} c5 {B 0} 2. Nf3 {B 0} d5 {B 0} 3. e3 {B 0} Nf6 {B 0} 4. Bb2 {B 0}
e6 {B 0} 5. d4 {B 0} Nc6 {B 0} 6. Bd3 {B 0} Bd6 {B 0} 7. dxc5 {B 0} Bxc5 {B 0}
8. a3 {B 0} Qe7 {B 0} 9. b4 {B 0} Bb6 {B 0} 10. b5 {0.55/15 8} Na5 {0.32/15 11
(Sb8)} 11. Nbd2 {0.84/14 8 (O-O)} O-O {0.36/13 14 (Sc4)} 12. O-O {0.85/14 8}
Nd7 {0.33/13 10 (Sc4)} 13. Ne5 {0.70/14 7 (c4)} Nc5 {0.00/14 18 (f5)} 14. Qg4 {
1.05/13 7} f6 {0.17/14 31 (Df6)} 15. Ng6 {1.33/15 7} hxg6 {0.00/13 2 (Dd6)} 16.
Bxg6 {1.55/13 2} Rf7 {0.14/14 21} 17. Qh5 {2.08/13 7} Qe8 {0.16/13 12} 18. e4 {
2.08/14 7} dxe4 {0.25/13 10 (Kf8)} 19. Bc3 {2.73/13 7 (Ld4)} e5 {0.72/14 16}
20. Bb4 {2.54/12 7 (Sxe4)} f5 {0.02/12 9} 21. Rad1 {2.52/11 7 (g4)} Be6 {0.01/
12 9} 22. g4 {2.28/11 7 (Lxa5)} Bd7 {1.24/10 25 (Dxb5)} 23. gxf5 {2.80/11 6}
Bxf5 {2.29/13 3} 24. Qh7+ {2.79/15 6} Kf8 {2.21/10 0} 25. Bxf5 {2.79/14 5} Rf6
{2.30/13 2} 26. Qh8+ {2.79/14 6 (Sxe4)} Kf7 {2.36/13 4} 27. Qh5+ {2.81/13 6}
Kf8 {2.23/13 2 (Kg8)} 28. Qg5 {2.36/12 6 (Dg4)} Qf7 {2.23/13 4} 29. Bh7 {2.36/
13 6} Rh6 {2.07/11 1} 30. Nxe4 {2.42/13 6} Rxh7 {2.37/12 1} 31. Nxc5 {2.24/14
6 (Lxc5+)} Kg8 {1.85/11 0} 32. Rd7 {2.19/14 6 (Se4)} Qf6 {2.35/13 9 (Df3)} 33.
Qg2 {2.74/13 6 (Se4)} Qf5 {2.24/10 10 (Kh8)} 34. Ne4 {2.64/12 5 (Tfd1)} Nc4 {
2.65/11 8} 35. Rxb7 {2.73/11 5} Rc8 {2.44/11 2} 36. Kh1 {3.34/14 5 (Td1)} Qf4 {
3.45/12 13 (g6)} 37. Re1 {3.40/11 5} Bd8 {3.44/10 1 (Td8)} 38. Rxa7 {4.08/12 5}
Nb6 {3.94/11 6} 39. a4 {4.27/12 5 (Lc5)} Rc4 {6.30/10 11 (Kh8)} 40. c3 {5.49/
12 5} Rc8 {4.93/10 1 (Tc7)} 41. a5 {6.29/13 5} Nc4 {5.94/11 3} 42. a6 {6.48/13
5 (b6)} Kh8 {5.12/11 2 (Sb6)} 43. Rg1 {7.78/13 5 (Dg3)} 1-0
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Re: My test for Rhetoric 1.4.1 (32-bit) is ready !

Post by Sylwy » Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:13 pm

Nothing sensational !
Sorry !
Take a look here - please:

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 865#589865

SR :wink:
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Re: red-flag

Post by pkumar » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:16 am

Mcafee red-flags the site http://www.chessrhetoric.com/ . Did not face this problem till version 1.2 . Is there any other way of getting the executable?

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Re: My test for Rhetoric 1.4.1 (32-bit) is ready !

Post by Thomas Lagershausen » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:59 am

Sylwy wrote:Nothing sensational !
Sorry !
Take a look here - please:

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 865#589865

SR :wink:
I have completly to disagree.

Rhetoric plays a completly different chess as any other chessprogram of the world. This makes it a little sensation. Please don´t bore us with matchresults.
It´s only a matter of time when this thing will be fine too. Today its the time to enjoy its playingstlye.
TL

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Re: My test for Rhetoric 1.4.1 (32-bit) is ready !

Post by asanjuan » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:30 pm

Sylwy wrote:Nothing sensational !
Sorry !
Take a look here - please:

http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 865#589865

SR :wink:
Well, my own tests say that is about 40 elo stronger, and your test result doesn't say the opposite. Too few games to draw any conclusion due to the uncertainities.
At least it isn't worse!
I have to work a lot in the endgame eval to climb in elo terms. Frank Quisinski is testing it intensively just now and has reported that seems to be similar in strength to Crafty 24.0. Still need more games, but there must be a jump in the Ccrl list.
All this joined to a nice playing style.

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Re: red-flag

Post by asanjuan » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:36 pm

pkumar wrote:Mcafee red-flags the site http://www.chessrhetoric.com/ . Did not face this problem till version 1.2 . Is there any other way of getting the executable?
I don't know why is this happening. I use avast and don't face this problem.
Sorry.

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Re: Hocus-pocus !

Post by Sylwy » Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:16 pm

Thomas Lagershausen wrote: 1.- Please don´t bore us with matchresults.
2.-Today its the time to enjoy its playingstlye.
1.-OK ! The post doesn't exist for you ! :lol:
2.-OK again ! It's Oktoberfest in Germany ! Until the 3-rd of October ! :lol:

Enough ? Then........CCRL, CEGT & Co. will act !

:wink: Herr Silvian von IASI :wink:
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Re: red-flag

Post by tomgdrums » Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:54 pm

asanjuan wrote:
pkumar wrote:Mcafee red-flags the site http://www.chessrhetoric.com/ . Did not face this problem till version 1.2 . Is there any other way of getting the executable?
I don't know why is this happening. I use avast and don't face this problem.
Sorry.
Bitdefender was okay with the down load but when I tried to use the engine it claimed it was a malicious file and deleted it from my computer. Same thing happened with the Naum 4.6 release today.

BUT Smarthink 1.70 gets a clean pass from BitDefender.

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Re: red-flag

Post by noctiferus » Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:06 pm

Sometimes mcafee and some other antivirus find a false positive.
I would suggest, in dubious cases, to submit the file to VirusTotal, that gives results from something like 40 antiviruses. If the positive answer is limited to one or two antivirus out of 40, I would be rather confident that this is a false positive...

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Re: red-flag?

Post by pkumar » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:41 am

noctiferus wrote:Sometimes mcafee and some other antivirus find a false positive.
I would suggest, in dubious cases, to submit the file to VirusTotal, that gives results from something like 40 antiviruses. If the positive answer is limited to one or two antivirus out of 40, I would be rather confident that this is a false positive...
I downloaded the Rhetoric 1.4.1 executables by puppy linux and submitted to VirusTotal. The url also was scanned. Nothing suspicious was found. Thanks for the suggestion.

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