This is exactly what Scid's "Annotate" feature is for. I made a screencast for someone who asked exactly for the same thing as you. All instructions here => http://www.talkchess.com/forum/viewtopi ... 753#561753Uri Blass wrote:Is there is a program that I can use to analyze some pgn file in order to give me to think only about the positions when one side did a significant mistake?
The idea is that I can define what is a significant mistake(for example at least 0.5 pawns) and how much time to give the engine that I choose(stockfish) to analyze every position in the pgn to define the mistakes.
A question about a program to analyze pgn
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Re: A question about a program to analyze pgn
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Re: A question about a program to analyze pgn
Thanks
It seems that the instruction can help me to annotate games automatically but the question is if I can also get the positions when one side blundered without the best move in order to think about them by myself.
It seems that the instruction can help me to annotate games automatically but the question is if I can also get the positions when one side blundered without the best move in order to think about them by myself.
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With some GUI (LucasChess, Fritz, perhaps Scidvspc and scid, etc) you can do this if you tick the training option when you check blundersUri Blass wrote:Thanks
It seems that the instruction can help me to annotate games automatically but the question is if I can also get the positions when one side blundered without the best move in order to think about them by myself.
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Even with many GUI you can hide/unhide commentary (training mode)
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Re: A question about a program to analyze pgn
Scid is perfect for this job
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You can check my posts. I wrote a simple bash script a few weeks ago which does much of what you want and you could add in the fen extract bit and the simple math to set a move variance score.
It outputs data in this format:
13 Qb6 -0.14 -0.07
13 Kh1 0.13 -0.01
14 c5 -0.08 0.05
14 Ba2 -0.2 -0.28
15 Rac8 0.18 -0.02
15 dxc5 -0.42 -0.24
16 Qa6 -0.13 -0.55
16 Nb5 0.03 -0.1
17 Nxc5 -0.58 -0.55
17 Qe2 -0.34 -0.92
18 Kg7 -0.48 -0.82
18 e4 0.28 -0.2
19 fxe4 -0.29 -0.01
19 fxe4 -1.04 -1.33
20 Ncxe4 1.1 0.06
20 Bf4 -1.01 0.09
21 Rfe8 1.01 0
21 Qf3 -1.24 -0.23
22 Re7 1.21 -0.03
22 Qh3 -1.08 0.13
23 Rce8 1.04 -0.04
23 Be3 -1.05 -0.01
24 Ng3+ 0.13 -0.92
24 hxg3 0.13 0.26
25 Rxe3 0.12 0.25
25 Nc7 0.12 0.24
26 Qb6 0.12 0.24
26 Nxe8+ 0.11 0.23
27 Rxe8 0.11 0.22
It outputs data in this format:
13 Qb6 -0.14 -0.07
13 Kh1 0.13 -0.01
14 c5 -0.08 0.05
14 Ba2 -0.2 -0.28
15 Rac8 0.18 -0.02
15 dxc5 -0.42 -0.24
16 Qa6 -0.13 -0.55
16 Nb5 0.03 -0.1
17 Nxc5 -0.58 -0.55
17 Qe2 -0.34 -0.92
18 Kg7 -0.48 -0.82
18 e4 0.28 -0.2
19 fxe4 -0.29 -0.01
19 fxe4 -1.04 -1.33
20 Ncxe4 1.1 0.06
20 Bf4 -1.01 0.09
21 Rfe8 1.01 0
21 Qf3 -1.24 -0.23
22 Re7 1.21 -0.03
22 Qh3 -1.08 0.13
23 Rce8 1.04 -0.04
23 Be3 -1.05 -0.01
24 Ng3+ 0.13 -0.92
24 hxg3 0.13 0.26
25 Rxe3 0.12 0.25
25 Nc7 0.12 0.24
26 Qb6 0.12 0.24
26 Nxe8+ 0.11 0.23
27 Rxe8 0.11 0.22
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Re: A question about a program to analyze pgn
I get interested on this but using games from Philippine National Championships just held recently also.Uri Blass wrote:To be more specific I am interested in thinking by myself about the israeli chess championship games but not about every position(I have no time for it) but only about the positions when players did significant mistakes.
You can download the games in the following link
http://www.theweekinchess.com/chessnews ... ships-2014
Possible output that I would like to have is list of fen for all the positions when players did mistakes of at least 0.5 pawns(without best move)
when I simply think about diagram number 1 and later about diagram number 2 and later about diagram number 3...
and only after thinking about diagrams from the same game compare the move that I choose with the best move or the game move.
Of course if the evaluation is already +3.5 and a move drops the evaluation to 2.8 then it is not interesting so I would like to have only positions when the evaluation is smaller than 1.5 pawn advantage for one side before the move or after the move.
I tried Fritz 13, but it has its own way of creating tactics positions even though you allowed to blunder check at 50 cp, and its format should also be in cb.
So here is what I tried, convert the pgn to epd lines using pgn2fen program, the output is like below, then create a python script to analyze those positions following some criteria that you specified, like 50cp minimum blunder threshold, and position should not be an obvious loss or win, by some threshold too.
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rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - fmvn 1; hmvc 0; pm g3;
rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/6P1/PPPPPP1P/RNBQKBNR b KQkq - fmvn 1; hmvc 0; pm d5;
rnbqkbnr/ppp1pppp/8/3p4/8/6P1/PPPPPP1P/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - fmvn 2; hmvc 0; pm Bg2;
rnbqkbnr/ppp1pppp/8/3p4/8/6P1/PPPPPPBP/RNBQK1NR b KQkq - fmvn 2; hmvc 1; pm c6;
rnbqkbnr/pp2pppp/2p5/3p4/8/6P1/PPPPPPBP/RNBQK1NR w KQkq - fmvn 3; hmvc 0; pm Nf3;
rnbqkbnr/pp2pppp/2p5/3p4/8/5NP1/PPPPPPBP/RNBQK2R b KQkq - fmvn 3; hmvc 1; pm g6;
rnbqkbnr/pp2pp1p/2p3p1/3p4/8/5NP1/PPPPPPBP/RNBQK2R w KQkq - fmvn 4; hmvc 0; pm O-O;
rnbqkbnr/pp2pp1p/2p3p1/3p4/8/5NP1/PPPPPPBP/RNBQ1RK1 b kq - fmvn 4; hmvc 1; pm Bg7;
rnbqk1nr/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/3p4/8/5NP1/PPPPPPBP/RNBQ1RK1 w kq - fmvn 5; hmvc 2; pm d3;
rnbqk1nr/pp2ppbp/2p3p1/3p4/8/3P1NP1/PPP1PPBP/RNBQ1RK1 b kq - fmvn 5; hmvc 0; pm e5;
rnbqk1nr/pp3pbp/2p3p1/3pp3/8/3P1NP1/PPP1PPBP/RNBQ1RK1 w kq - fmvn 6; hmvc 0; pm Nbd2;
rnbqk1nr/pp3pbp/2p3p1/3pp3/8/3P1NP1/PPPNPPBP/R1BQ1RK1 b kq - fmvn 6; hmvc 1; pm Ne7;
rnbqk2r/pp2npbp/2p3p1/3pp3/8/3P1NP1/PPPNPPBP/R1BQ1RK1 w kq - fmvn 7; hmvc 2; pm e4;
rnbqk2r/pp2npbp/2p3p1/3pp3/4P3/3P1NP1/PPPN1PBP/R1BQ1RK1 b kq - fmvn 7; hmvc 0; pm O-O;
rnbq1rk1/pp2npbp/2p3p1/3pp3/4P3/3P1NP1/PPPN1PBP/R1BQ1RK1 w - - fmvn 8; hmvc 1; pm Qe2;
rnbq1rk1/pp2npbp/2p3p1/3pp3/4P3/3P1NP1/PPPNQPBP/R1B2RK1 b - - fmvn 8; hmvc 2; pm Qc7;
rnb2rk1/ppq1npbp/2p3p1/3pp3/4P3/3P1NP1/PPPNQPBP/R1B2RK1 w - - fmvn 9; hmvc 3; pm b4;
rnb2rk1/ppq1npbp/2p3p1/3pp3/1P2P3/3P1NP1/P1PNQPBP/R1B2RK1 b - - fmvn 9; hmvc 0; pm dxe4;
rnb2rk1/ppq1npbp/2p3p1/4p3/1P2p3/3P1NP1/P1PNQPBP/R1B2RK1 w - - fmvn 10; hmvc 0; pm dxe4;
rnb2rk1/ppq1npbp/2p3p1/4p3/1P2P3/5NP1/P1PNQPBP/R1B2RK1 b - - fmvn 10; hmvc 0; pm f6;
rnb2rk1/ppq1n1bp/2p2pp1/4p3/1P2P3/5NP1/P1PNQPBP/R1B2RK1 w - - fmvn 11; hmvc 0; pm Qc4+;
rnb2rk1/ppq1n1bp/2p2pp1/4p3/1PQ1P3/5NP1/P1PN1PBP/R1B2RK1 b - - fmvn 11; hmvc 1; pm Kh8;
rnb2r1k/ppq1n1bp/2p2pp1/4p3/1PQ1P3/5NP1/P1PN1PBP/R1B2RK1 w - - fmvn 12; hmvc 2; pm a4;
rnb2r1k/ppq1n1bp/2p2pp1/4p3/PPQ1P3/5NP1/2PN1PBP/R1B2RK1 b - - fmvn 12; hmvc 0; pm b6;
rnb2r1k/p1q1n1bp/1pp2pp1/4p3/PPQ1P3/5NP1/2PN1PBP/R1B2RK1 w - - fmvn 13; hmvc 0; pm Ba3;
rnb2r1k/p1q1n1bp/1pp2pp1/4p3/PPQ1P3/B4NP1/2PN1PBP/R4RK1 b - - fmvn 13; hmvc 1; pm a6;
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Here is some sample output of the script, these positions are from chisr14.pgn
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rq2rb1k/7p/pn3pp1/Qb2p3/1P2P3/B1R2NP1/2P2PBP/R5K1 w - - fmvn 26; hmvc 7; pm Bf1; c0 "pm ce -72"; bm a3b2; c1 "bm ce -6"; c2 "atms 5000"; c3 "engine sf5";
r3rb1k/1q5p/p4pp1/Q3p3/1PN1P3/B1nB2P1/2P2P1P/R5K1 b - - fmvn 30; hmvc 4; pm Nxe4; c0 "pm ce 66"; bm e8b8; c1 "bm ce 143"; c2 "atms 5000"; c3 "engine sf5";
rr4k1/1nqbbppp/3p1n2/pp1Pp1B1/2p1P3/2P2NNP/PPB2PP1/R2QR1K1 w - - fmvn 17; hmvc 0; pm Nh4; c0 "pm ce -91"; bm d1d2; c1 "bm ce -22"; c2 "atms 5000"; c3 "engine sf5";
rr4k1/1nqbbppp/3p1n2/pp1Pp1B1/2p1P2N/2P3NP/PPB2PP1/R2QR1K1 b - - fmvn 17; hmvc 1; pm g6; c0 "pm ce 20"; bm f6d5; c1 "bm ce 91"; c2 "atms 5000"; c3 "engine sf5";
4r3/3br2k/3p2pp/pp1P1p2/2pBnQ1P/2P5/PP4PK/4R3 b - - fmvn 33; hmvc 5; pm Rg8; c0 "pm ce -221"; bm g6g5; c1 "bm ce -5"; c2 "atms 5000"; c3 "engine sf5";
6r1/3br2k/3p2pp/pp1P1p2/2pBnQ1P/2P5/PP2R1PK/8 b - - fmvn 36; hmvc 11; pm Rge8; c0 "pm ce -252"; bm g8f8; c1 "bm ce -88"; c2 "atms 5000"; c3 "engine sf5";
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c0 "pm ce -72"; bm a3b2; c1 "bm ce -6"; c2 "atms 5000"; c3 "engine sf5";
[d]rq2rb1k/7p/pn3pp1/Qb2p3/1P2P3/B1R2NP1/2P2PBP/R5K1 w - -
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pm Bf1; c0 "pm ce -72"; bm a3b2; c1 "bm ce -6"; c2 "atms 5000"; c3 "engine sf5";
Here is the sample script run. It will ask for the epd file, with fmvn, and pm, then ask some uci engine options.
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Please enter epd file to process: chisr14.epd
The filename of output file is analysis-chisr14.epd
Please enter engine file name: sf5
Please enter search time in milli seconds: 5000
Please enter number of positions to analyze and saved: 6
Please enter hash size in mb: 64
Please enter number of Threads: 1
Analysing positions, please wait ...
This pos is skipped, fmvn is below 12
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analyzing for saving pos 1
bestmove a2a4
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analyzing for saving pos 6
bestmove e2e4
Done!!, number of positions analyzed and saved: 6
Let me know if you need the script, it requires installation of python in windows os.
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Re: A question about a program to analyze pgn
Ferdinand thank you for your offer, its always good to have a alternative.Ferdy wrote: Let me know if you need the script, it requires installation of python in windows os.
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Re: A question about a program to analyze pgn
Scid vs PC has feature to analyze, but it has different way of flagging a tactical position, not as Uri wants it to be.phenri wrote:Ferdinand thank you for your offer, its always good to have a alternative.Ferdy wrote: Let me know if you need the script, it requires installation of python in windows os.