lucasart wrote:There are far too many improvised "rating lists". Have a look at the tournament forum: almost every week a new one is created...
It's quality and consistency we need, not quantity. A proper website that attracts a large audience, and maintains a serious and well conceived rating list.
There is already CCRL, and Graham's awesome amateur divisions tournament. If you want to do another similar thing, it needs something extra to be relevant and/or interesting. For example:
* A website
* Strict and fair testing procedure, the likes of IPON.
* No clones. In fact only open source engines, that way it is easy to enforce and spot the cheaters. Closing the source is what allows clones to thrive.
CEGT has become rather messy and dispersed (too many lists at different tc with or without pondering).
WBEC and ChessWar were not primarily rating lists. Of course, it is inevitable that persons will rate the "Premier Division" and do some correlation across other tournaments to arrive at a rating but there would not be sufficient games to create a rating list of any rigorous statistical meaning.
WBEC was one of the longest running chess engine tournaments that I know of and one that I followed keenly. There is also RWBC and George Lyapko's tournament.
These tournaments generated excitement for authors and fans who would see their engines battle it out in an attempt to win promotion to the next league pretty much like a English Premier league setup.
Games were discussed and ChessWar had a chat feature which made it possible for the spectators to share their opinions, analysis etc.
I have no objection to your preferences either way but excluding closed source engines would mean no commercial engines and quite a few free ones.
No clones is going to open up a can of worms as what is going to be the ultimate determinant of that standard? Perhaps one such engine could represent the family?
I have no idea how to solve that problem but that genie is well and truly out of the bottle...
What would be the constituents of a proper website in your opinion? I would like Adam's project to succeed and I think that if a demanding mind such as yours could be satisfied then he would be more than halfway there.