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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by Graham Banks » Wed Oct 08, 2014 5:57 pm

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Thank you very much Graham. Please write as you know what is the difference in the program between WB1 and WB2. I ask because I installed in the engine Santana 2.0.6 and Sjakk 2.2 somehow these engines would not work in the program. Maybe I did something wrong in the program.
Sjakk 2.2 - install as UCI, but you have to save without being able to change any parameters.
I've not tried the other engine yet, as it's not yet strong enough for my Amateur Series.

Most winboard engines are wb2.
I've only come across a couple that need to be installed as wb1. From memory Monik was one of them.
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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:42 pm

Thank you for the advice Graham.

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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:52 am

Matthias I have such a request. Write what the following options in the program:

- Higher Grid Cells
- Lag - free Timing
- Parse UCI Junk
- Ask before Shutdown
- Ignore UCI result claims
- Invert Swiss
- 3-1-0 scoring
- S-B/BH>Elo
- Play out TB pos.

Sincerely
Krzysztof

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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by Matthias Gemuh » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:38 pm

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Matthias I have such a request. Write what the following options in the program:

- Higher Grid Cells
- Lag - free Timing
- Parse UCI Junk
- Ask before Shutdown
- Ignore UCI result claims
- Invert Swiss
- 3-1-0 scoring
- S-B/BH>Elo
- Play out TB pos.

Sincerely
Krzysztof
- Invert Swiss
weak pairings play first

- 3-1-0 scoring
win = 3 points, draw = 1

- S-B/BH>Elo
S-B/BH is more important than Elo in tie-breaks

- Play out TB pos.
GUI plays out till mate when engines reach TB position
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by geots » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:05 am

Uri Blass wrote:
hgm wrote:Well, if they differ, one of the two must be wrong. It should not be difficult to figure out which of the two. There are hundreds of engines that do it right. I use neither Houdini nor Stockfish, so I wouldn't know.

There is a clear standard for how scores should be reported, however (centiPawn), both in WB protocol and UCI. If engines report scores that should be multiplied by a fixed factor to be meaningfully compared with other engine scores, these engines are non-compliant, and should be fixed. Encouraging such non-compliance by letting the GUI fix it on an engine by engine basis is helping to create chaos.

If there are users that rather see the score in full Pawn units, or milliQueens, or 1/256 Pawns, then doing that conversion for all engines alike would be a GUI task. But users should not be bothered calibrating individual engines.
I do not think that it is clear what is the meaning of a pawn with all the positional bonuses that programs have in their evaluation for mobility passed pawns and other things.

difference in a score between programs can be not because of different material evaluation but because of different positional evaluation.

The side that has material advantage often has more passed pawns or better mobility so practically the evaluation may be bigger than the material difference.



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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by Graham Banks » Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:07 am

Nice to see you back George. :)
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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by Matthias Gemuh » Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:04 pm

Matthias Gemuh wrote:
Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Matthias I have such a request. Write what the following options in the program:

- Higher Grid Cells
- Lag - free Timing
- Parse UCI Junk
- Ask before Shutdown
- Ignore UCI result claims
- Invert Swiss
- 3-1-0 scoring
- S-B/BH>Elo
- Play out TB pos.

Sincerely
Krzysztof
- Invert Swiss
weak pairings play first

- 3-1-0 scoring
win = 3 points, draw = 1

- S-B/BH>Elo
S-B/BH is more important than Elo in tie-breaks

- Play out TB pos.
GUI plays out till mate when engines reach TB position
- Lag - free Timing
measure lag and give time back to engines

- Parse UCI Junk
info string without "score" nor "pv" is junk in ChessGUI. Only very few engines like Chiron hide things like "tbhits" in junk.

- Ask before Shutdown
prevents accidental shutdown of GUI.

- Ignore UCI result claims
some UCI engines illegally mimmick WB engines
My engine was quite strong till I added knowledge to it.
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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:02 am

Thank you very much for your answers Matthias. I have a question. Is it possible to play a match on two separate computers without using the Internet. And like so please write how to do it.

Krzysztof.

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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by Matthias Gemuh » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:34 am

Krzysztof Grzelak wrote:Thank you very much for your answers Matthias. I have a question. Is it possible to play a match on two separate computers without using the Internet. And like so please write how to do it.

Krzysztof.
no
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Re: ChessGUI 0.245f is available

Post by Krzysztof Grzelak » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:05 pm

It thanks for answer Matthias. I have such a hard question. What to do to be shown ECO during the tournament, despite being the tournament is played without any book debuts. Or such thing is possible in programme ChessGUI.

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