Ferret 1.00 v258 - program from 1995

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Re: Ferret 1.00 v258 - program from 1995

Post by IanO » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:13 am

I was a big fan of Ferret back in the early days of computer chess. Even further back, I directed chess tournaments in the northwest US. As I was cataloging my games a few years ago I was surprised to see a familiar name: I apparently played Bruce in a "bye game" at a tournament I directed, long before I knew him as the author of Ferret!

I also miss many of these oldies, and thought it was a shame that Ferret never had a commercial offering or a clear championship title. He contributed a lot to this very forum. You should search the original archives for his contributions, they are quite worth reading.

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Re: Ferret 1.00 v258 - program from 1995

Post by Dann Corbit » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:01 am

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Re: Ferret 1.00 v258 - program from 1995

Post by Guenther » Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:09 am

IanO wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:13 am
I was a big fan of Ferret back in the early days of computer chess. Even further back, I directed chess tournaments in the northwest US. As I was cataloging my games a few years ago I was surprised to see a familiar name: I apparently played Bruce in a "bye game" at a tournament I directed, long before I knew him as the author of Ferret!

I also miss many of these oldies, and thought it was a shame that Ferret never had a commercial offering or a clear championship title. He contributed a lot to this very forum. You should search the original archives for his contributions, they are quite worth reading.
https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?t ... d&search=1
https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?t ... t&search=1
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searc ... aealS9iXIJ
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Re: Ferret 1.00 v258 - program from 1995

Post by mclane » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:12 am

Ferret could be a good candidate for further dedicated chess computer developments.
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Re: Chess System Tal vs Ferret Fantasy Game!

Post by supersharp77 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:06 pm

Vinvin wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:55 am
Norbert Raimund Leisner wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:19 pm
unfortunately Bruce Moreland cannot be contacted under his former email-address.
This engine from the year 1995 had its own GUI and was made for e.g. win32, but one thing seems to be a mystery:
Is it compatible to WinBoard (CECP)-protocol and -if yes- which command line parameters are required to run under Arena-GUI?
...
Norbert
Sometimes I dream we would get a modern compile and UCI interface for all this famous oldies : Ferret, Chess Genius 3, Chess System Tal, Fritz 3, MChess Pro 3.12, Chessmaster 2100, Gambit Tiger 2, Shredder 5.32, ... :evil: :evil: :evil:
And on the other way, I'd like to see Stockfish 10 tested on a Pentium 200 MMX 8-)
Figured it was a Good Time to Check Out Chess System Tal and Ferret and see How A game might play out....Just like the old days!... :) :wink:


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Re: Ferret 1.00 v258 - program from 1995

Post by MikeB » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:38 pm

Guenther wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:09 am
IanO wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:13 am
I was a big fan of Ferret back in the early days of computer chess. Even further back, I directed chess tournaments in the northwest US. As I was cataloging my games a few years ago I was surprised to see a familiar name: I apparently played Bruce in a "bye game" at a tournament I directed, long before I knew him as the author of Ferret!

I also miss many of these oldies, and thought it was a shame that Ferret never had a commercial offering or a clear championship title. He contributed a lot to this very forum. You should search the original archives for his contributions, they are quite worth reading.
https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?t ... d&search=1
https://www.stmintz.com/ccc/index.php?t ... t&search=1
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searc ... aealS9iXIJ
As I recalled, he did have have offer to take it commercial and he turned it down. Remember , he worked for for Microsoft when Microsoft employees were turning into millionaires with stock options. $10,000 of MSFT stock on 1/1/90 was worth about $1,000,000 on 1/1/2000 ( and is worth over $3,000,000 today)

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Re: Chess System Tal vs Ferret Fantasy Game!

Post by mclane » Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:07 pm

supersharp77 wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:06 pm
Vinvin wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:55 am
Norbert Raimund Leisner wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:19 pm
unfortunately Bruce Moreland cannot be contacted under his former email-address.
This engine from the year 1995 had its own GUI and was made for e.g. win32, but one thing seems to be a mystery:
Is it compatible to WinBoard (CECP)-protocol and -if yes- which command line parameters are required to run under Arena-GUI?
...
Norbert
Sometimes I dream we would get a modern compile and UCI interface for all this famous oldies : Ferret, Chess Genius 3, Chess System Tal, Fritz 3, MChess Pro 3.12, Chessmaster 2100, Gambit Tiger 2, Shredder 5.32, ... :evil: :evil: :evil:
And on the other way, I'd like to see Stockfish 10 tested on a Pentium 200 MMX 8-)
Figured it was a Good Time to Check Out Chess System Tal and Ferret and see How A game might play out....Just like the old days!... :) :wink:

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