Weird opening

[Henk]

Recently I played a game I lost terribly. I think it is because of the weird opening: 1 e2-e4, b8-c6, 2 g1-f3 and now f7-f5.

I played e4-e5 but what is the right answer or refutation of f7-f5 ?

[Codesquid]

I would have taken the pawn.

[Henk]

After taking the pawn he would have played d7-d5 I guess.

Game looks like a reversed Vienna or King Gambit with a badly paced knight on f3

[tjfroh]

Henk, You lost "tempo" by double moving the E pawn. Your opponent was probably a few hundred elo points stronger than you. Next time let your opponent lose tempo.

Gary Kasparov Jr.

Recently I played a game I lost terribly. I think it is because of the weird opening: 1 e2-e4, b8-c6, 2 g1-f3 and now f7-f5.

I played e4-e5 but what is the right answer or refutation of f7-f5 ?

[Henk]

Henk, You lost "tempo" by double moving the E pawn. Your opponent was probably a few hundred elo points stronger than you. Next time let your opponent lose tempo.

Gary Kasparov Jr.

Recently I played a game I lost terribly. I think it is because of the weird opening: 1 e2-e4, b8-c6, 2 g1-f3 and now f7-f5.

I played e4-e5 but what is the right answer or refutation of f7-f5 ?

No I played in a group with a maximum ELO of 1850. The one I played against won first price maybe his rating was between 1800 and 1925. Mine is 1780 - 1800. I lost a point by playing two times petroff defense which means two draws. So I do have to find an alternative for black.

Maybe if I do not now how to play against this weird opening I should play this weird opening myself. Then if I loose, I at least know what to play with white.

[Kyodai]

Recently I played a game I lost terribly. I think it is because of the weird opening: 1 e2-e4, b8-c6, 2 g1-f3 and now f7-f5.

I played e4-e5 but what is the right answer or refutation of f7-f5 ?

Never met that - but playing simple chess usually will do like:

1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 f5 3. exf5 - and now if 3.-d5 white can start playing
for the square e5 like 4. Bb5 Bxf5 5. Ne5 Qd6 6.d4 with an easier game for white

(reminds me of a game I played vs CM personality GM Zukertort - went like this:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6+ dxc6 5.0-0 f5!??

Here we go again! -should be some old Morphy-variation and gave me this "What??" - feeling

Got the better of it by taking the pawns in the center - first Nxe5 then exf5
playing simple chess

[Henk]

Recently I played a game I lost terribly. I think it is because of the weird opening: 1 e2-e4, b8-c6, 2 g1-f3 and now f7-f5.

I played e4-e5 but what is the right answer or refutation of f7-f5 ?

Never met that - but playing simple chess usually will do like:

1.e4 Nc6 2.Nf3 f5 3. exf5 - and now if 3.-d5 white can start playing
for the square e5 like 4. Bb5 Bxf5 5. Ne5 Qd6 6.d4 with an easier game for white

Looks good to me. Bb5 is a good one. Looks so simple that I wonder why can't I invent that myself. This explains my poor chess playing capabilities.

[reflectionofpower]

Recently I played a game I lost terribly. I think it is because of the weird opening: 1 e2-e4, b8-c6, 2 g1-f3 and now f7-f5.

I played e4-e5 but what is the right answer or refutation of f7-f5 ?

with HIARCS 14 book it says exf5!! I agree with Henk van den Belt's statement too.

[Norbert Raimund Leisner]

Take a look look here:

http://azchesscoach.wordpress.com/tag/n ... h-defense/

http://www.chesscafe.com/text/lane42.pdf

http://www.taom.com/pipermail/brianwall ... 00320.html

http://nimzovinec.free.fr/spip.php?article37 (French website)

fou = bishop
cavalier = knight
dame / reine = queen
roi = king
tour = rook
pion = pawn

you can insert the position into http://www.chesslive.de/ or
http://www.chesslab.com/PositionSearch.html

Best wishes,
Norbert