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GARGAMEL
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TESTPOSITION!

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[Event "LSS WC 2015 Quarter-Final 00011, a4"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Haug, Ulrich"]
[Black "Djoudi, Amar"]
[Result "1-0"]

[D]2bqkbnr/3r1ppp/p1npp3/1p6/4P3/1BN1BN2/PP2QPPP/R4RK1 w k - 0 0"
1. a4!! b4 2. Nd5!! 1-0

which Engine can solve it?

regards Anton
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jdart
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Re: TESTPOSITION!

Post by jdart »

Houdini 3 selects a4 very rapidly but without finding 2. Nd5, so I think 2. Nd5 is a better test position.

--Jon
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Re: TESTPOSITION!

Post by jdart »

Houdini gets Nd5 but it takes a while (> 5 minutes on my quad).

Houdini 3, Q9550 @ 2.8Ghz (4 cores), 512m hash, Windows XP x32:

Code: Select all

Fen: 2bqkbnr/3r1ppp/p1npp3/8/Pp2P3/1BN1BN2/1P2QPPP/R4RK1 w k - 0 1
Bm:  Nd5

no    4        40    +41         1177 Na2 Nf6 Rac1 Rc7
no    5        40    +16         2812 Na2 Nf6 Rac1 Rc7 Bb6
no    6        60    +10         4294 Na2 Nf6 Rac1 Bb7 Ng5 d5
no    7        60     -6         7660 Na2 Nf6 Rac1 Bb7 Nd4 Nxd4 Bxd4 a5
no    8        80    -12        12930 Na2 Nf6 Rac1 Bb7 Bc2 d5 e5 d4
no    8        90     +2        15571 Nb1
no    8        90    +18        16159 Nb1
no    8        90     +3        20288 Nb1 Nf6 Nbd2 Ng4 Nd4 Nxe3 Nxc6 Qb6 Rfc1
no    9       110     -1        62387 Nb1 Nf6 Nbd2 d5 Rfc1 dxe4 Nxe4 Nxe4 Rxc6
                                      Bb7 Bb6 Qa8 Rc4 Bd6 Rac1 h6
no   10       120     -4       103093 Nb1 Nf6 Nbd2 d5 Bg5 dxe4 Nxe4 Be7 Rac1
                                      Na5 Bc2 O-O Ne5
no   11       150     +4       177073 Nb1
no   11       160    +20       199276 Nb1
no   11       180     +9       217669 Nb1 Nf6 a5 Nxa5 Ba4 Nxe4 Nbd2 Nc5 Bxd7+
                                      Nxd7 Rfc1 Nc5 Ne5 Bb7
no   12       200    +17       293475 Nb1
no   12       220    +11       335374 Nb1 Nf6 a5 Bb7 Nbd2 d5 Bb6 Qb8 Rfc1 Be7
                                      e5 Ng4
no   13       310     +3       710862 Nb1 Nf6
no   13       400     +6      1051115 Nb1 Nf6 a5 Bb7 Ba4 Qa8 Nbd2 Be7 Rac1 Ng4
                                      Nc4 Nxe3 Qxe3 Rc7 Nb6 Qd8 Rfd1
no   14       530     +0      1606681 Nb1 Nf6 Nbd2 Ng4 Bf4 Bb7 Ng5 Nf6 Rac1 Nd4
                                      Qe3 e5 Bc4 Ng4
no   15       740     -1      2467833 Nb1 Nf6 a5 Bb7 Ba4 Qa8 Nbd2 Be7 Rac1 O-O
                                      Nc4 Rc7 Bb6 Rcc8 b3 d5 exd5 Nxd5
no   16      1080     +0      3898188 Nb1 Nf6 a5 Bb7 Rc1 Qa8 Nbd2 Be7 Nc4 Qb8
                                      Nb6 Rc7 Qc4 O-O Bd2 h6 Bxb4 d5 exd5 Nxd5
                                      Bxe7 Ncxe7
no   17      1950     +8      7650611 Nb1
no   17      2190     +0      8653773 Nb1 Nf6 a5 Bb7 Ba4 Be7 Rc1 Qa8 Qc2 b3 Qc4
                                      d5 exd5 exd5 Qxb3 O-O Qd3 Rc7 Nbd2 Nb4
                                      Qf5 Qc8 Qxc8 Rfxc8 Rxc7 Rxc7 Ne5 Bd6 Ndf3
no   18      2540     +8     10148100 Nb1
no   18      2750     +3     11104697 Nb1 Nf6 a5 Bb7 Ba4 Be7 Rc1 Qa8 Qc2 b3 Qc4
                                      d5 exd5 exd5 Qxb3 O-O Qd3 Rc7 Nbd2 Nb4
                                      Qe2 Rxc1+ Rxc1 Rc8 Rc3 Bd6 h3 Ne4 Nxe4
                                      dxe4
no   19      4620     -5     19573533 Nb1 Bb7
no   19      7580     +3     32973995 Nb1 Nf6 a5 Bb7 Ba4 Be7 Rc1 Qa8 Qc2 b3 Qc4
                                      d5 exd5 exd5 Qxb3 O-O Qd3 Rc7 Nbd2 Nb4
                                      Qe2 Rxc1+ Rxc1 Rc8 Rc3 Bd6 h3 Ne4 Nxe4
                                      dxe4
no   20      9250     +0     40632741 Nb1 Na5 Bc2 Nf6 Nbd2 Be7 Bd3 Ng4 Bxa6
                                      Bxa6 Qxa6 Nxe3 fxe3 O-O Nd4 Bf6 Rac1 d5
                                      Rc5 Nb7 Rc2 Na5 exd5 Bxd4 exd4 Rxd5 Nf3
                                      Nb3
no   21     12010     +0     53514299 Nb1 Na5 Bc2 Nf6 Nbd2 Be7 Bd3 Ng4 Bxa6
                                      Bxa6 Qxa6 Nxe3 fxe3 Bf6 Nd4 d5 Rac1 O-O
                                      Rc5 Nb7 Rc2 Na5 exd5 Bxd4 exd4 Rxd5 Nf3
                                      Nb3
no   22     17710     +8     79605976 Nb1
no   22     19390     -7     86755200 Nb1 Na5
no   22     30040     -6    137332861 Nb1 Na5 Bc2 Nf6 Nbd2 Be7 Bd3 Ng4 Bd4 e5
                                      h3 exd4 hxg4 Ra7 Nxd4 Bf6 e5 Bxe5 N2f3
                                      O-O Rac1 Bf6 g5 Bxd4 Nxd4 Qxg5 Qe4 g6 Nf3
                                      Qg4 Qd5
no   23     32100     +1    146749596 Nb1
no   23     37360     -8    171020553 Nb1 Na5 Bc2 Nf6 Nbd2 Bb7 Rac1 Be7 Rfd1
                                      O-O e5 dxe5 Nxe5 Rd5 f4 h6 Ndf3 Rxd1+
                                      Rxd1 Qc7 Rc1 Qd6 Rd1 Nd5 Qd3 f5 Bf2 Rd8
                                      g3 Qc7
no   23    172900     +7    807048393 Na2 Na5 Bc4 Nxc4 Qxc4 a5 Rfc1 Bb7 Qb5 Nf6
                                      Bb6 Qa8 Bxa5 Be7 Nxb4 Bxe4 Nc6 O-O Nfd4
                                      Nd5 Qe2 Bg6 Nxe7+ Nxe7 b4 e5 Nb5 Nd5 Qf3
                                      h6
no   24    195160     +0    913279262 Na2 Na5
no   24    254990    +13   1203664945 Na2 Na5 Bc4 Nxc4 Qxc4 Bb7 Nxb4 Qa8 Rfd1
                                      Nf6 e5 Nd5 Nxd5 Bxd5 Qg4 h5 Qg3 Bxf3 gxf3
                                      Qb8 f4 h4 Qg5 d5 Rac1 Rc7 Rxc7 Qxc7 Rc1
                                      Qd7 Bb6
no   25    263080     +5   1244048097 Na2 Na5
no   25    301880     +0   1436761685 Na2 Na5 Bc4 Nxc4 Qxc4 Bb7 Nxb4 Qa8 Rfd1
                                      Nf6 e5 Nd5 Nxd5 Bxd5 Qc3 Qc6 Qxc6 Bxc6
                                      Rac1 Bxa4 Rd4 Bb5 Rc8+ Rd8 Rxd8+ Kxd8 Ng5
                                      Ke8 exd6 e5 Rd1 Bd7 Ra1 Bb5 Rc1 Bd7 Ra1
                                      Bb5
yes  25    389740    +21   1872221831 Nd5
yes  25    422950    +37   2028575699 Nd5
yes  22    466020    +76   2147483647 Nd5
yes  22    520010   +110   2147483647 Nd5 exd5 exd5 Ne5 a5 Bb7 Bb6 Qf6 Rfe1 Be7
                                      Ba4 Nxf3+ gxf3 Nh6 Rac1 O-O Bxd7 Qg5+ Kf1
                                      Bf6 Rc7 Qxd5 Qe4 Ba8 Qxd5 Bxd5 Rc8 g5
                                      Rxf8+ Kxf8 Bc7 Be5 Bc8 Bc4+ Kg2 b3 Re4
                                      Bd5 Rb4
yes  23    565260   +121   2147483647 Nd5
yes  23    586400    +99   2147483647 Nd5 exd5
yes  23    627900   +143   2147483647 Nd5
yes  23    695160   +163   2147483647 Nd5 exd5 exd5 Nb8 a5 Re7 Rfe1 Nh6 Qc4
                                      Rxe3 Rxe3+ Be7 Qxb4 Nf5 Rxe7+ Nxe7 Qxb8
                                      O-O Bc4 Ng6 Qb6 Qf6 Re1 Nf4 Qd4 Qf5 g3
                                      Nh5 Nh4 Qg5 Qb6 Nf4 Qxd6 Nh3+ Kf1 Qd2 Qb6
                                      Qc2 b3
yes  24    730810   +163   2147483647 Nd5 exd5 exd5 Nb8 a5 Re7 Rfe1 Nh6 Qc4
                                      Rxe3 Rxe3+ Be7 Qxb4 Nf5 Rxe7+ Nxe7 Qxb8
                                      O-O Bc4 Ng6 Qb6 Qf6 Re1 Nf4 Qd4 Qf5 g3
                                      Nh5 Nh4 Qg5 Qb6 Nf4 Qxd6 Nh3+ Kf1 Qd2 Qb6
                                      Qc2 b3
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kgburcham
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Re: TESTPOSITION!

Post by kgburcham »

about 41 seconds

[D] 2bqkbnr/3r1ppp/p1npp3/1p6/4P3/1BN1BN2/PP2QPPP/R4RK1 w k -

CPU0: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU1: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU2: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU3: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU4: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU5: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU6: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU7: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU8: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU9: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU10: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
CPU11: GenuineIntel Intel64 Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 0 4003 MHz
12 processor(s) found, POPCNT available
NUMA configuration with 2 node(s), offset 0
4096 MB Large Page Hash
Nalimov 6 men EGTB available - 999 MB cache
Engine: Houdini 3 Pro x64 (4096 MB)
by Robert Houdart
16/37 0:00 -0.04 1.Rac1 Bb7 2.a4 b4 3.Nb1 Nf6 4.Nbd2 Be7 5.Nc4 O-O 6.Rfd1 d5 7.Nb6 Nxe4 8.Nxd7 Qxd7 (20.849.791) 21406
17/40 0:01 -0.12-- 1.Rac1 Bb7 (29.090.516) 23032
17/40 0:01 +0.03++ 1.a4 (30.054.856) 22717
17/40 0:01 +0.19++ 1.a4 (31.914.372) 22650
other best move - reduce depth to 14
14/40 0:01 +0.16 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Nf6 3.a5 Bb7 4.Nbd2 Be7 5.Nd4 Nxd4 6.Bxd4 O-O 7.Ba4 Rc7 8.Bb6 d5 9.Bxc7 Qxc7 (31.919.145) 22621
15/40 0:01 +0.16 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Nf6 3.a5 Bb7 4.Nbd2 Be7 5.Nd4 Nxd4 6.Bxd4 O-O 7.Ba4 Rc7 8.Bb6 d5 9.Bxc7 Qxc7 (31.926.977) 22563
16/40 0:01 +0.16 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Nf6 3.a5 Bb7 4.Nbd2 Be7 5.Nd4 Nxd4 6.Bxd4 O-O 7.Ba4 Rc7 8.Bb6 d5 9.Bxc7 Qxc7 (31.988.614) 22495
17/40 0:01 +0.16 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Nf6 3.a5 Bb7 4.Nbd2 Be7 5.Nd4 Nxd4 6.Bxd4 O-O 7.Ba4 Rc7 8.Bb6 d5 9.Bxc7 Qxc7 (32.723.863) 22490
18/40 0:01 +0.16 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Nf6 3.a5 Bb7 4.Nbd2 Be7 5.Nd4 Nxd4 6.Bxd4 O-O 7.Ba4 Rc7 8.Bb6 d5 9.Bxc7 Qxc7 (37.412.818) 22757
19/43 0:01 +0.16 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Nf6 3.a5 Bb7 4.Nbd2 Be7 5.Nd4 Nxd4 6.Bxd4 O-O 7.Ba4 Rc7 8.Bb6 d5 9.Bxc7 Qxc7 (45.347.817) 23231
20/43 0:02 +0.16 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Nf6 3.a5 Bb7 4.Nbd2 Be7 5.Nd4 Nxd4 6.Bxd4 O-O 7.Ba4 Rc7 8.Bb6 d5 9.Bxc7 Qxc7 (61.995.167) 24283
21/44 0:04 +0.08-- 1.a4 b4 (105.665.061) 26330
21/50 0:06 0.00 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Na5 3.Bc2 Be7 4.Nbd2 Nf6 5.h3 O-O 6.Bd3 Bb7 7.Bxa6 Bxe4 8.Nxe4 Nxe4 9.Bb5 Rb7 10.Ba6 Rd7 11.Bb5 (190.385.293) 27923
22/50 0:10 0.00 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Na5 3.Bc2 Be7 4.Nbd2 Nf6 5.h3 O-O 6.Bd3 Bb7 7.Bxa6 Bxe4 8.Nxe4 Nxe4 9.Bb5 Rb7 10.Ba6 Rd7 11.Bb5 (287.820.294) 28491
23/50 0:15 +0.08++ 1.a4 (417.566.825) 27281
23/52 0:16 0.00 1.a4 b4 2.Nb1 Na5 3.Bc2 Be7 4.Nbd2 Nf6 5.h3 O-O 6.Bd3 Bb7 7.Bxa6 Bxe4 8.Nxe4 Nxe4 9.Bb5 Rb7 10.Ba6 Rd7 11.Bb5 (445.640.206) 27437
24/57 0:40 +0.08++ 1.a4 (1.210.089.360) 29765
24/63 0:41 +0.24++ 1.a4 (1.246.542.327) 29714
24/77 0:57 +0.60++ 1.a4 (1.684.680.948) 29463
24/81 1:51 +1.04 1.a4 b4 2.Nd5 exd5 3.exd5 Nb8 4.Rac1 Re7 5.Qc4 Rxe3 6.fxe3 Bd7 7.Nd4 Nf6 8.Nc6 Bxc6 9.dxc6 Qc7 10.e4 a5 (3.335.049.401) 30025
25/81 2:02 +1.15++ 1.a4 (3.675.727.491) 29946
25/81 2:08 +0.93-- 1.a4 b4 (3.860.227.593) 29990
25/81 2:14 +1.04 1.a4 b4 2.Nd5 exd5 3.exd5 Nb8 4.Rac1 Re7 5.Qc4 Bd7 6.Rfe1 Nf6 7.Qxb4 a5 8.Qf4 Na6 9.Qxd6 Nb4 10.Bb6 Ne4 (4.028.620.074) 29970
26/81 2:19 +1.04 1.a4 b4 2.Nd5 exd5 3.exd5 Nb8 4.Rac1 Re7 5.Qc4 Bd7 6.Rfe1 Nf6 7.Qxb4 a5 8.Qf4 Na6 9.Qxd6 Nb4 10.Bb6 Ne4 (4.177.144.889) 30000
27/81 2:34 +1.04 1.a4 b4 2.Nd5 exd5 3.exd5 Nb8 4.Rac1 Re7 5.Qc4 Bd7 6.Rfe1 Nf6 7.Qxb4 a5 8.Qf4 Na6 9.Qxd6 Nb4 10.Bb6 Ne4 (4.666.165.832) 30126
28/81 3:05 +1.04 1.a4 b4 2.Nd5 exd5 3.exd5 Nb8 4.Rac1 Re7 5.Qc4 Bd7 6.Rfe1 Nf6 7.Qxb4 a5 8.Qf4 Na6 9.Qxd6 Nb4 10.Bb6 Ne4 (5.669.474.611) 30541
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ernest
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Re: TESTPOSITION!

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jdart wrote: Fen: 2bqkbnr/3r1ppp/p1npp3/8/Pp2P3/1BN1BN2/1P2QPPP/R4RK1 w k - 0 1
Bm: Nd5

no 4 40 +41 1177 Na2 Nf6 Rac1 Rc7
no 5 40 +16 2812 Na2 Nf6 Rac1 Rc7 Bb6
no 6 60 +10 4294 Na2 Nf6 Rac1 Bb7 Ng5 d5
Just curious, Jon, is this a standard output of Shredder GUI?
(with my Shredder 11 GUI, I don't get that)
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peter
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Re: TESTPOSITION!

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kgburcham wrote: 28/81 3:05 +1.04 1.a4 b4 2.Nd5 exd5 3.exd5 Nb8 4.Rac1 Re7 5.Qc4 Bd7 6.Rfe1 Nf6 7.Qxb4 a5 8.Qf4 Na6 9.Qxd6 Nb4 10.Bb6 Ne4 (5.669.474.611) 30541
3...Nb8? (3...Se5 4.a5) 4.Rac1? (4.a5!)
Peter.
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jdart
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Re: TESTPOSITION!

Post by jdart »

The output is from epd2wb (http://www.arasanchess.org/epd2wb.zip), with Houdini accessed through Polyglot.

--Jon
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