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Dr.Wael Deeb
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Re: Two games

Post by Dr.Wael Deeb » Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:00 pm

A few days ago I played against NagaSkaki 5.12 in one of my still running tournaments and as you can see I crushed it in 27 moves with the white pieces....

The engines is rated 2060 Elo in my private rating list....

Going through the game I may be accused of using an engine for consulting my moves....

The truth.....I didn't and I will not unless it's post game analysis ........

Enjoy the game.....

[Event "Iron_Knight_0_3"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2012.10.09"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Dr.Deeb"]
[Black "NagaSkaki 5.12"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C62"]
[Annotator ""]
[PlyCount "55"]
[Source "Chess Informant"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 d6 4. d4 exd4 5. Nxd4 Bd7 6. Nc3 g6 7. Be3 Bg7 8.
Qd2 Nge7 9. h4 O-O 10. h5 Bxd4 11. Bxd4 Nxd4 12. Qxd4 Bxb5 13. Nxb5 Re8 14.
hxg6 Nxg6 15. Nc3 Qg5 16. Kf1 Nf4 17. g3 Ne6 18. Qd3 Nc5 19. Qf3 Re6 20. Re1 c6

[D]r5k1/pp3p1p/2ppr3/2n3q1/4P3/2N2QP1/PPP2P2/4RK1R w - - 0 21

Now it's time for the rock to do it's magic.......

21. Rh4 Qe5 22. Rf4 Rf8 23. Kg2 Rg6 24. Rh1 Ne6 25. Rf5 Qd4 26. Rfh5 Qb4 27.
Rxh7 Ng5 28. Qh5 1-0

Final position.......

[D]5rk1/pp3p1R/2pp2r1/6nQ/1q2P3/2N3P1/PPP2PK1/7R b - - 0 28



Of course I've been playing the chess engines since the year 2002 and I've gaind around 500 Elo through this time....

I do hope to find time soon to participate in human tournaments....
Dr.D
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Re: Epilogue

Post by MM » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:29 pm

Olivier Deville wrote:The player has been interviewed by our comitee.

He could not quite explain the tactics behind Kg8. For him it was only a waiting move. Still, his comments on the whole game were rather convincing.

He has been given the benefit of the doubt, and he will stay in the tournament.

Olivier
I'm really sorry for you Olivier, i'm totally on your side, i've been playing engines and fake humans for more than 20 years, i totally understand you. Take it easy. There's nothing you can do more than what you did.
Many of the people who defend your opponent think that you have been cheated but they prefer not say that.

Best Wishes
MM

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Re: Epilogue

Post by Olivier Deville » Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:56 am

MM wrote:
Olivier Deville wrote:The player has been interviewed by our comitee.

He could not quite explain the tactics behind Kg8. For him it was only a waiting move. Still, his comments on the whole game were rather convincing.

He has been given the benefit of the doubt, and he will stay in the tournament.

Olivier
I'm really sorry for you Olivier, i'm totally on your side, i've been playing engines and fake humans for more than 20 years, i totally understand you. Take it easy. There's nothing you can do more than what you did.
Many of the people who defend your opponent think that you have been cheated but they prefer not say that.

Best Wishes
Thanks Maurizio

I was not playing white pieces in this game, I am the organizer. I think I have done my job by inspecting the case, hearing the player and making a decision. Now the case is closed.

Olivier

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Still..

Post by Kyodai » Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:05 am

.. I find it interesting to compare the moves played by a human - and the preferences of a top engine - i.e after book - how many moves were similar ( f.e within top-2 choices of the engine)

Since I posted 2 games of 15 min here - I'll check my moves out with Houdini.

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Good luck

Post by Kyodai » Fri Oct 12, 2012 3:04 pm

...with your finding time to play chess vs human in tournaments..

The engine you played comitted suicide but surely you know that.

After f.e 25.-Qg7 there is not so much for white.

I have my tournament chess beyond me since I'm old - but you have never even tried ?? Just playing some computerchess?? A child of the computer age maybe...

PS - my posted games were really nothing - but may serve as a source for comparing human moves vs engines - nothing else...

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