Yes, exactly. So why would you do it? It would reduce Komodo's chances by a factor 20.Don wrote:I don't think Peter understands what you are saying. He just missed it and that's probably not what he meant. Based on what he actually said anyone can enter Komodo, perhaps 20 different people and only if I try to enter Komodo would they get kicked.
How about we settle the WCCC argument?
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Don : I want a blue Komodo SMP with sharp opening knowledge, average in middle game, strong in endgame with a red hat and great jacket, called Komonexusdo.Don wrote:I don't think Peter understands what you are saying. He just missed it and that's probably not what he meant. Based on what he actually said anyone can enter Komodo, perhaps 20 different people and only if I try to enter Komodo would they get kicked.hgm wrote:Why would I, as an author, enter my program if already two others had entered it before me? It would reduce the chances of my program winning by 50%...
Don
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that would be to assume $2000 of Komodo interest.Don wrote:I don't think Peter understands what you are saying. He just missed it and that's probably not what he meant. Based on what he actually said anyone can enter Komodo, perhaps 20 different people and only if I try to enter Komodo would they get kicked.hgm wrote:Why would I, as an author, enter my program if already two others had entered it before me? It would reduce the chances of my program winning by 50%...
Don
Perhaps you flatter yourself?
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If you want to give incentive to the the authors to play, instead of saying if they play all others are out. Why don't you give them a small % of the other programs entry fees? I don't know what would be a good number %. But at 100$ you could probably get enough to cover some of the authors.
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Harvey Williamson wrote:btw i can reactivate your a/c whenever you want nothing is deleted.Peter Skinner wrote:Then Harvey, post the entire conversation.Harvey Williamson wrote: Peter it would never have been posted here if you had not alluded to what i said in the post i replied to.
You stated that my signature on the Hiarcs Forum was now misleading:
Peter Skinner
Kikrtech.com
Authors Against Piracy
Did I not state that I still remove links on file sharing sites for Hiarcs, Shredder, Junior, Fritz and other programs? Did you also not state that Hiarcs would likely never enter one of my events again over running this type of tournament?
Just post the entire conversation with my permission so this can be cleared up. I am more than willing to admit to _anything_ I have said.
Peter
1st one and your reply:
You then sent this before i replied to you:Peter Skinner wrote:The whole point of the tournament is to prove how utterly useless it is, and what a waste of time it will be. Nothing more.Harvey Williamson wrote:Sorry Peter I am not going to allow you to advertise this tournament here. I doubt Hiarcs will ever play in 1 of your events again. Your signature now seems a little strange:
But I guess you might make some money out of it.
Best Wishes,
Harvey
The reason the ICGA has good tournament rules (And I try to follow the same rules with the CCT) is because it weeds out the crap.
I'm out to prove that with 90 derivatives entering, it will become what everyone bitches about. A hardware/book war. Nothing more.
Peter
Then my reply and yours:Sorry, I just realized there was a second part of the message.
How exactly is allowing someone to play with an engine that is freely available on the internet supporting piracy?
And I'm sorry to hear that Hiarcs won't be participating in the CCT's anymore. I will remove you guys from my invitation list.
Peter
Then the final onesPeter Skinner wrote:What I meant was engines like Houdini, Robbolitto, Ippolit... they are freely available. Same as Crafty, Arasan...Harvey Williamson wrote: I did not realise that engines available on the net by definition could not be pirated.
strange definition you have.
I was not talking about engines like Hiarcs, Shredder, Fritz, Junior.. all of which I still remove links for almost daily.
Surely if someone purchases an engine, they should be able to enter it in to a fun event like this.
Jesus Harvey, this event was trying to prove a point. You seem to take it quite personally.
If you don't want me to advertise it here, that is fine. This is your board, but to suddenly accuse me of supporting piracy goes too far.
Just delete my account from here. I won't both posting here again about any event.
Peter
Peter Skinner wrote:If all you see it as is a cash grab, then you miss the point of it entirely.Harvey Williamson wrote: ok hope you make some money out of your mad event.
Good luck with Hiarcs Harvey. This is likely the last time we will speak.
Peter
Pete's comment made me stop and think. Please check- and if my Hiarcs Forum membership is still open and valid- I would like it closed out. Tho in my mind it has long been shut down- I think it best to make it official.
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There is a 1st time for everything.geots wrote: Pete's comment made me stop and think.
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PR expert Harvey destroys HIARCSgeots wrote:Harvey Williamson wrote:btw i can reactivate your a/c whenever you want nothing is deleted.Peter Skinner wrote:Then Harvey, post the entire conversation.Harvey Williamson wrote: Peter it would never have been posted here if you had not alluded to what i said in the post i replied to.
You stated that my signature on the Hiarcs Forum was now misleading:
Peter Skinner
Kikrtech.com
Authors Against Piracy
Did I not state that I still remove links on file sharing sites for Hiarcs, Shredder, Junior, Fritz and other programs? Did you also not state that Hiarcs would likely never enter one of my events again over running this type of tournament?
Just post the entire conversation with my permission so this can be cleared up. I am more than willing to admit to _anything_ I have said.
Peter
1st one and your reply:
You then sent this before i replied to you:Peter Skinner wrote:The whole point of the tournament is to prove how utterly useless it is, and what a waste of time it will be. Nothing more.Harvey Williamson wrote:Sorry Peter I am not going to allow you to advertise this tournament here. I doubt Hiarcs will ever play in 1 of your events again. Your signature now seems a little strange:
But I guess you might make some money out of it.
Best Wishes,
Harvey
The reason the ICGA has good tournament rules (And I try to follow the same rules with the CCT) is because it weeds out the crap.
I'm out to prove that with 90 derivatives entering, it will become what everyone bitches about. A hardware/book war. Nothing more.
Peter
Then my reply and yours:Sorry, I just realized there was a second part of the message.
How exactly is allowing someone to play with an engine that is freely available on the internet supporting piracy?
And I'm sorry to hear that Hiarcs won't be participating in the CCT's anymore. I will remove you guys from my invitation list.
Peter
Then the final onesPeter Skinner wrote:What I meant was engines like Houdini, Robbolitto, Ippolit... they are freely available. Same as Crafty, Arasan...Harvey Williamson wrote: I did not realise that engines available on the net by definition could not be pirated.
strange definition you have.
I was not talking about engines like Hiarcs, Shredder, Fritz, Junior.. all of which I still remove links for almost daily.
Surely if someone purchases an engine, they should be able to enter it in to a fun event like this.
Jesus Harvey, this event was trying to prove a point. You seem to take it quite personally.
If you don't want me to advertise it here, that is fine. This is your board, but to suddenly accuse me of supporting piracy goes too far.
Just delete my account from here. I won't both posting here again about any event.
Peter
Peter Skinner wrote:If all you see it as is a cash grab, then you miss the point of it entirely.Harvey Williamson wrote: ok hope you make some money out of your mad event.
Good luck with Hiarcs Harvey. This is likely the last time we will speak.
Peter
Pete's comment made me stop and think. Please check- and if my Hiarcs Forum membership is still open and valid- I would like it closed out. Tho in my mind it has long been shut down- I think it best to make it official.
george
PR expert Hyatt destroys ICGA
Hint to commercial computer chess entities, stop relying on idiots, do your own PR or shut up might be better policy.
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Funny just keep your eyes open some pretty big announcements coming soon.chrisw wrote: PR expert Harvey destroys HIARCS
PR expert Hyatt destroys ICGA
Hint to commercial computer chess entities, stop relying on idiots, do your own PR or shut up might be better policy.
btw when did I ever rely on you?
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Well registration is officially open.
The new site design is in place, and registration setup and in place.
Let the fun begin
Peter
The new site design is in place, and registration setup and in place.
Let the fun begin
Peter
I was kicked out of Chapters because I moved all the Bibles to the fiction section.
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Sounds great !Peter Skinner wrote:gerold wrote:Why not for free. Then you would have a lot more in.
GM's on ICC like anywhere from $700 - 1200 for a two day tournament, commentating on the top 5 boards, and frolicking in other games from time to time.
Peter