The secret of Houdini

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The secret of Houdini

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The secret of Houdini chess engine is that it uses all the physical memory of your computer.It's not a chess engine as the other ones but a speedhack engine.Simply when you open task manager you see houdini is running.But you don't see that houdini is running in high priority.This is the internal Houdini hack.Make an experiment.Try to arrange an engine match between Critter 1.4a and Houdini 2.0C on Arena interface for example.Before starting the match,go to your task manager and switch Critter to high Priority.Then start the match.Critter is superior in speed too and manages to beat Houdini with a narrow margin
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Re: The secret of Houdini

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LOL. You've missed April Fools by 6 weeks.
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Re: The secret of Houdini

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May you explain why the system processor is overheating when Houdini is running,and why this isn't happening with the other engines,please?
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Re: The secret of Houdini

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Houdini exploits your hardware to the very maximum of its abilities, more than most other engines. It's extremely well optimized to avoid idle time and to make the most of the CPU's potential. Depending on your system, this can translate into slightly higher CPU temperature or into a lower stable over-clock if your system is at the boundary of its over-clocking potential with other engines.

Concerning your crackpot theory about process priority, when Houdini is running you can simply check in the Windows Task Manager at what priority Houdini is running by right-clicking on the Houdini process. You'll find that it's running at the priority defined by the GUI, Houdini doesn't modify its process priority at all.

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Re: The secret of Houdini

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Houdini wrote:Houdini exploits your hardware to the very maximum of its abilities, more than most other engines. It's extremely well optimized to avoid idle time and to make the most of the CPU's potential. Depending on your system, this can translate into slightly higher CPU temperature or into a lower stable over-clock if your system is at the boundary of its over-clocking potential with other engines.

Concerning your crackpot theory about process priority, when Houdini is running you can simply check in the Windows Task Manager at what priority Houdini is running by right-clicking on the Houdini process. You'll find that it's running at the priority defined by the GUI, Houdini doesn't modify its process priority at all.

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Nice to meet you Robert.I agree with your complete analysis to your point of view.I opened task manager,i saw that Houdini was running in normal priority and then i did this.I taskmanaged Critter 1.4a and set it manually in high priority.Critter was faster than in normal priority and beat Houdini by 2 points.Then i did another test.I taskmanaged Houdini and set it in a high priority.Houdini had never changed his behaviour.Same speed as before.So why Houdini doesn't respond manually to a high priority session and doesn't go faster than before?
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Re: The secret of Houdini

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Strelkaman wrote:The secret of Houdini chess engine is that it uses all the physical memory of your computer.It's not a chess engine as the other ones but a speedhack engine.Simply when you open task manager you see houdini is running.But you don't see that houdini is running in high priority.This is the internal Houdini hack.Make an experiment.Try to arrange an engine match between Critter 1.4a and Houdini 2.0C on Arena interface for example.Before starting the match,go to your task manager and switch Critter to high Priority.Then start the match.Critter is superior in speed too and manages to beat Houdini with a narrow margin
Just my 2 cents over this issue

Sorry,but i have different view than yours

The bellow standings are based/played between each other on different separate PCs

And as we see, Houdini is still the world's number one engine

http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/july-december-2011/
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-auto232/
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/ratings/scct-auto232/



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Sedat
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Re: The secret of Houdini

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Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Strelkaman wrote:The secret of Houdini chess engine is that it uses all the physical memory of your computer.It's not a chess engine as the other ones but a speedhack engine.Simply when you open task manager you see houdini is running.But you don't see that houdini is running in high priority.This is the internal Houdini hack.Make an experiment.Try to arrange an engine match between Critter 1.4a and Houdini 2.0C on Arena interface for example.Before starting the match,go to your task manager and switch Critter to high Priority.Then start the match.Critter is superior in speed too and manages to beat Houdini with a narrow margin
Just my 2 cents over this issue

Sorry,but i have different view than yours

The bellow standings are based/played between each other on different separate PCs

And as we see, Houdini is still the world's number one engine

http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/july-december-2011/
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-auto232/
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/ratings/scct-auto232/



Greetings,
Sedat
1)Where is Strelka? 2)This classification has nothing to do with my theory:)
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Re: The secret of Houdini

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Strelkaman wrote:
Sedat Canbaz wrote:
Strelkaman wrote:The secret of Houdini chess engine is that it uses all the physical memory of your computer.It's not a chess engine as the other ones but a speedhack engine.Simply when you open task manager you see houdini is running.But you don't see that houdini is running in high priority.This is the internal Houdini hack.Make an experiment.Try to arrange an engine match between Critter 1.4a and Houdini 2.0C on Arena interface for example.Before starting the match,go to your task manager and switch Critter to high Priority.Then start the match.Critter is superior in speed too and manages to beat Houdini with a narrow margin
Just my 2 cents over this issue

Sorry,but i have different view than yours

The bellow standings are based/played between each other on different separate PCs

And as we see, Houdini is still the world's number one engine

http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/july-december-2011/
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-auto232/
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/ratings/scct-auto232/



Greetings,
Sedat
1)Where is Strelka? 2)This classification has nothing to do with my theory:)
Actually i already tested Strelka 5.1:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/ratings/scct-auto232/
28 Strelka 5.1 x64 1c 3244 14 14 1462 56% 3209 51%

Very soon i plan to start testing Strelka 5.5:
http://www.sedatcanbaz.com/chess/scct-rating/

And i hope the new version of Strelka 5.5 will be ranked at one of the Top places

Btw,Auto232 testing is clear proof that your classification theory is wrong :)

Good luck,
Sedat
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Re: The secret of Houdini

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Strelkaman wrote:Nice to meet you Robert.I agree with your complete analysis to your point of view.I opened task manager,i saw that Houdini was running in normal priority and then i did this.I taskmanaged Critter 1.4a and set it manually in high priority.Critter was faster than in normal priority and beat Houdini by 2 points.Then i did another test.I taskmanaged Houdini and set it in a high priority.Houdini had never changed his behaviour.Same speed as before.So why Houdini doesn't respond manually to a high priority session and doesn't go faster than before?
As your other topics in the forum demonstrate, you seem to jump to conclusions based on too few games (less than 20). Even with 100 games the confidence interval is about +-50 Elo. To detect reliably a 20 Elo change you need to play at least 1,000 games.
Also, if you observe any difference by changing the process priorities of engines, it probably indicates that you're running too many other tasks in Windows while performing the engine tests.
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Re: The secret of Houdini

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Sedat Canbaz wrote:The bellow standings are based
Hi Sedat,

Please, spell it below, not bellow as you always do!... :)