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Jack Lad wrote:6. Kxa5? is a blunder. White needs to play Kb6! instead to win.
[d] 8/1p1PR2p/1K4k1/p4p2/7R/1P3P2/1r1r2P1/8 b - - 3 6

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:

kgburcham wrote:

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Again as I wrote above without even using a chess engine,Mr.Houdini has rushed a little bit so early to claim that Anand had missed an easy win....
Dr.D

I went back to see the "Easy Win" words, could not find them.
All I could find that Robert said is this:
"Instead of Anand's 34.Rc7 the alternative 34.d7! looks very promising."

with Roberts high chess rating, strong hardware, strong program, and programming ability, I didnt think he would say "easy win".
This group has run off most all programmers, I hate to lose another programmer, but if Robert dissappears, I will still read here.
kgburcham

So what Should I do
why do you have to do anything?
Build a statue of Robert and get down on my knees because he's a programmer
no one else does this
Sticking to the same logic,where were you when Don or the so called Mr.Komodo called me Dweeb without no reason of whatever
ok I agree, some should have spoke up
I treat people by their kindness or by their nasty nature....Robert is definitely in the second group and if he wants to leave then let it be....
I thought maybe I missed something that happened between you two, not sure. Maybe it is the code issues. I havent seen the nasty nature you are talking about. The fans are always here, the programmers are temporary.
Dr.D

kgburcham wrote:

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:

kgburcham wrote:

Dr.Wael Deeb wrote:Again as I wrote above without even using a chess engine,Mr.Houdini has rushed a little bit so early to claim that Anand had missed an easy win....
Dr.D

I went back to see the "Easy Win" words, could not find them.
All I could find that Robert said is this:
"Instead of Anand's 34.Rc7 the alternative 34.d7! looks very promising."

with Roberts high chess rating, strong hardware, strong program, and programming ability, I didnt think he would say "easy win".
This group has run off most all programmers, I hate to lose another programmer, but if Robert dissappears, I will still read here.
kgburcham

So what Should I do
why do you have to do anything?
Build a statue of Robert and get down on my knees because he's a programmer
no one else does this
Sticking to the same logic,where were you when Don or the so called Mr.Komodo called me Dweeb without no reason of whatever
ok I agree, some should have spoke up
I treat people by their kindness or by their nasty nature....Robert is definitely in the second group and if he wants to leave then let it be....
I thought maybe I missed something that happened between you two, not sure. Maybe it is the code issues. I havent seen the nasty nature you are talking about. The fans are always here, the programmers are temporary.
Dr.D

Houdini wrote:

notyetagm wrote:From the comment thread over at Chess Vibes http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/anand ... r-37-moves

In the press conference, they analyzed a nice line that at the end with a rook sac and queen with check. This was 34.d7 Rcc2 35.Rc4 Rb2+ 36.Kc1 Rxa2 37.Rc8 Rf2 (Threatening mate on f1 or a1) 38. Re6+! Kf7 39.Rf6!! wins. So Vishy had not seen this resource and hence dint play 34.d7. A pity. But a nice fighting game :)

He'll be disappointed to have missed a good opportunity - he didn't have a lot of time left on the clock.

After 34.d7! there appear to be 3 main defenses for black:
1) 34...Rcc2 35.Rc4 Rxc4 36.bxc4
2) 34...Rd1+ 35.Kb2 Rd2+ 36.Ka3 Rcc2
3) 34...Rd1+ 35.Kb2 Rc5 36.Rexh7 Rd2+

So far in each line Houdini gives a score above +0.9 at depth 35 or higher.
Not sure whether it's a win, but it's certainly very promising.

marcelk wrote:

Houdini wrote: He'll be disappointed to have missed a good opportunity - he didn't have a lot of time left on the clock.

After 34.d7! there appear to be 3 main defenses for black:
1) 34...Rcc2 35.Rc4 Rxc4 36.bxc4
2) 34...Rd1+ 35.Kb2 Rd2+ 36.Ka3 Rcc2
3) 34...Rd1+ 35.Kb2 Rc5 36.Rexh7 Rd2+

So far in each line Houdini gives a score above +0.9 at depth 35 or higher.
Not sure whether it's a win, but it's certainly very promising.

My engine doesn't go to 35 ply in a reasonable amount of time.
1. d7 is favored from depth 1 to 21, eval starting from 2.1 trending down to 1.7, all PVs as "d7 Rd1+, Kb2 Rd2+, Ka3 Rcc2, Ka4 Rxa2+, Kb5".
From depth 22, 1. Rc4 takes over (but continues trending down to +1.3 at 24 ply at which point I stopped the program).
My expectation is that it is a draw. Rook endings with 1 pawn difference can be hard to win.

37/83  74:54  +0.85    34.d7 Rcc2 35.Rc4 Rxc4 36.bxc4 h5 37.Kc1 Rd4
                       38.Kc2 Kf6 39.Rh7 Kg6 40.Kc3 Rd1 41.d8Q Rxd8 
                       42.Rxb7 Rd1 43.Rb2 Kf6 44.c5 Ke6 
                       45.Kc4 Kd7 46.a4 Kc7 47.Kb5 h4 
                       48.Re2 Rb1+ 49.Kxa5 Kc6 50.Re6+ Kxc5 
                       51.Rf6 Rg1 52.Rxf5+ Kc6 (27.478.478.730) 6113 
                       TB:669.617